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Posted: 8/30/2005 6:08:48 PM EDT
Well???
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:09:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 6:11:01 PM EDT by Stormtrooper]
yes, but it should be rebuilt on stilts so it can be a city in the sky. Then we could rename it cloud city. And Billy Dee Williams could be mayor.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:12:43 PM EDT
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:13:47 PM EDT
not unless they can pour enough dirt in that hole to bring the whole city above sea level.

I was watching something on the History Channel about that big hurricane that destroyed Galveston back in the early 1900s.

At the time Galveston had levys like New Orleans to keep out the sea water, but they werent enough and the whole damn town flooded when the hurricane came and they failed. Apparently after that they rebuilt the city by filling it in enough so that it would be above sea level.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:13:54 PM EDT
Sure, just build it someplace else.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:14:12 PM EDT
people live there

it is their hometown

it should be rebuilt
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:15:05 PM EDT
BTW dont worry, with Mexican labor they will get the place fixed up in now time at a reasonable cost.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:15:17 PM EDT
This is America, dude. We don't let no stinkin' british, japs, commies, arabs, or hurricanes bring us down for the count.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:15:21 PM EDT
Either fill the whole damn place in (very unlikely, due to it being a mud flat on the ocean's coast) or move it inland.

Other than that, no.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:15:25 PM EDT
Not with my money.

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:15:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 6:17:06 PM EDT by cyclone]
Hmm..........you might have something there..........It will get rebuilt, but not anytime soon........

Originally Posted By Stormtrooper:
yes, but it should be rebuilt on stilts so it can be a city in the sky. Then we could rename it cloud city. And Billy Dee Williams could be mayor.

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:16:35 PM EDT
Yes.

Under one condition.


You choose to remain living here, you do so on your own without the safety of the big insurance companies.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:16:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.



were any of those cities below sea level?

From an Engineering standpoint, it makes no sense. But they will do it anyway for sentiment and votes.

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:18:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.



I'm assuming those cities are all above sea level, not built on soft fill, and not surrounded by water that is higher than the cities?

New Orleans is being artificially maintained as an inhabitable area. That maintenance will fail from time to time as it just did. Each time it does, the city will be basically destroyed. If anyone wants to rebuild it in the same spot without MAJOR improvements, they can do it without my tax dollars.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:19:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shootemup:
Yes. Under one condition.

You choose to remain living here, you do so on your own without the safety of the big insurance companies.


How do the big insurance companies offer safety? Can they magically change the direction of big storms?
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:20:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.



Rebuilding isn't tough.

Its stupid.(provided we're talking about same as it always was)



Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:21:42 PM EDT
Semi-flood it and turn it into the Venice of the Gulf Coast. If that can't be done, then no, it shouldn't be rebuilt.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:21:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By shootemup:
Yes. Under one condition.

You choose to remain living here, you do so on your own without the safety of the big insurance companies.


How do the big insurance companies offer safety? Can they magically change the direction of big storms?



Who's going to help rebuild this mess. The insurance companies and the gov't.

What I'm saying is that if you decide to live in a disaster prone area(natural), than you should not count on insurance companies to come and rebuild your home.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:23:51 PM EDT
God apparently flushed it down the toilet.

Who are we to revive a divinely flushed turd?

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:24:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
people live there

it is their hometown

it should be rebuilt



ONLY on their dime.

NO tax dollars.

And I should NOT have to pay increased insurance rates because of it.

NO ONE is ENTITLED to live anywhere.

ANYONE who CHOOSES to return to this hole in teh earth should NEVER receive any tax dollars or insurance proceeds if there is another disaster.

How much of an idiot does one have to be to NOT see it IS gonna happen again?

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:25:03 PM EDT
To raise the city up enough would take thousands if not millons loads of fill. A big no vote from me.

Matt
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:25:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
God apparently flushed it down the toilet.

Who are we to revive a divinely flushed turd?




No specific Bible verse comes to mind, so I'm in dangerous territory here, but that sounds approximately right.



Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:28:15 PM EDT
Find the nearest lake.

Drain it and keep pumps there to keep the water out.

Build a city.

Repeat as necessary.

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:28:39 PM EDT
A simple yes or no wont do.

The old town should be rebuilt- and probably the old brick and stone buildings in it will come through this structurally sound yet again.

But the large tracts of suburbs and modern industrial parks should be encouraged to move elsewhere.

Old Town New Orleans should become like another Colonial Williamsburg
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:28:49 PM EDT
nope.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:29:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Find the nearest lake.

Drain it and keep pumps there to keep the water out.

Build a city.

Repeat as necessary.




but...that don't make no sense at all!
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:30:16 PM EDT
I thought that the South would rise again. Guess New Orleans was excepted and kept sinking. Maybe because of their French roots.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:32:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
people live there

it is their hometown

it should be rebuilt




If California fell off, should we rebuild it?

Bob
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:34:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By QuantumPion:
This is America, dude. We don't let no stinkin' british, japs, commies, arabs, or hurricanes bring us down for the count.




That's fuckng Sig line material!
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:37:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Find the nearest lake.

Drain it and keep pumps there to keep the water out.

Build a city.

Repeat as necessary.




but...that don't make no sense at all!



Almost 2K posts....

DoP, you should know better by now....

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:38:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.



You can't polish a turd.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:44:53 PM EDT
I say YES, lets go ahead and start rebuilding right away, even while the water is still rising......



As I said before....most people like socialism, as long as its their particular brand of socialism.



Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:45:39 PM EDT
no, at least not in the present location
move it to higher ground maybe
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:49:10 PM EDT
No, move the Mardi Gras to Dallas!
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:55:00 PM EDT
The harbor and oil facilities need to be rebuilt. Old town NO - yes. The rest - not with my money.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 7:59:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 8:04:46 PM EDT by DanishM1Garand]

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
Should London have been rebuilt? Berlin? Hiroshima? Tokyo? Dresden? We're Americans. We don't fold up the tents when times get tough. This is do over. A chance to build it right this time.




Hell Yeah! if we rebuild with better floodwalls (Think Holland) or on fill to raise it up. Look at the red
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:08:58 PM EDT
Not where it is.

Rebuild on higher ground, move the historic buildings that survived the storm (hell if they can move 3000 year old Egyptian monuments when the Answar was built they can move a french building).
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:16:32 PM EDT
I voted no...assuming that your talking about rebuilding the city in it's current shitty location. It's just asinine to build below sea level. If they want to rebuild inland....I'm all for it. But a lot of the flooding damage could have been avoided with some common sense.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:26:47 PM EDT
Nope. Leave it as is, turn the whole damn place into a MOUT facility.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:27:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
No, move the Mardi Gras to Dallas!



Mardi Gras is in Mobile already....no need to move it......although Mobile pretty hard hit as well....
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:30:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 8:32:33 PM EDT by Charging_Handle]
Rebuild it in the same exact spot so it can get destroyed again in about 10 years and cost this country a fortune.......again? I say hell no. "The foolish man builds his house upon the sand".

Rebuild the city.....but move shit further inland to higher ground. Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up for another major disaster.

Just think of all the money we've had to spend on disaster recovery that could have been spent on something else if freaking people would have had the common sense to move somewhere besides a beach in a damn hurricane rich environment.

Would you build a house on the side of a volcanic mountain? No! So why the hell build on the edge of the Gulf of Mexico, knowing a hurricane strike is not a matter of if, but when. It's stupid!
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:31:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stormtrooper:
yes, but it should be rebuilt on stilts so it can be a city in the sky. Then we could rename it cloud city. And Billy Dee Williams could be mayor.



Thanks for the laugh--You have quite an active imagination
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:32:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 8:36:33 PM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Nope. Leave it as is, turn the whole damn place into a MOUT facility.



I like it!!!!!!!!

A great place to practice ocean landings, ala D-Day.

Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:35:11 PM EDT
Rebuild it and move the DU headquarters there. Other than that I say NO.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:36:43 PM EDT
Not my concern.

All I ask is that they not tax the rest of the country to rebuild it if they decide to do so.

One can dream anyways...
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:42:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 8:47:16 PM EDT by Zardoz]

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Nope. Leave it as is, turn the whole damn place into a MOUT facility.



I like it!!!!!!!!

A great place to practice ocean landings, ala D-Day.


Think about it; it's already fully stocked with REAL debris, demolished houses and buildings, rubble, broken down vehicles blocking roads, etc. What better training environment to teach officers and troops how to deal with the complexities/difficulties of operating in an urban war zone?



Another thought: Wall the place in, and stock it with pedophiles, rapists, etc (all of whom are armed with airsoft weapons), and let our guys get in some live-fire training, too.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:45:22 PM EDT
No state or federal tax dollars should be used to rebuild in any area prone to natural disaster.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:50:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
No state or federal tax dollars should be used to rebuild in any area prone to natural disaster.



Agreed.

If people want to live on the beach, fine by me. Just make them responsible for their own losses when they happen. It isn't fair for people living in Ohio or Montana to have to pay for damages of others living along their beachfront property. Paradise comes with a cost. It should rest with the resident who builds in these high risk areas.

I am sick of my tax dollars going to fund recovery efforts for disasters that could largely be avoided if people used some common sense to begin with.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:56:29 PM EDT
Well there is absolute proof of Global warming,Glaciar park has none,and the earth cools itself by hurling the hot gases into the cool oceans to produce the cooling effects of hurricains!!!!

So much like liveing on the sanandrious fault,liveing right on the oceans edge might get a little problmatic!!

My heart and paycheck are here to help(united way) My heart is out to all that have lost loved ones,and may Gods hand sweep you with his loveing grace!!!

And may all of us that can help continue on!!!

God Bless you all the responders that have helped thus far!!!

Bob
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 9:03:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 9:09:03 PM EDT by WildBoar]

Originally Posted By QuantumPion:
This is America, dude. We don't let no stinkin' british, japs, commies, arabs, or hurricanes bring us down for the count.



Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! .........Bluto
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 9:07:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/30/2005 9:08:02 PM EDT by Tromatic]
I'm just wondering if the dome will still smell like shit opening day. I can imagine Madden now: "Jeebus, Bob! That ain't no grass stain there! That's a skidmark if I ever saw one, and that smell reminds of the time I ate a whole thanksgiving turkey by myself."
Matthew
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