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Posted: 1/2/2003 5:21:05 PM EDT
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You have to spend a couple dollars. $1.66 per month to be exact.
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Posted: 1/2/2003 5:23:30 PM EDT
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Read the tacked thread at the top--they cost too much to make them available for free any longer. The most basic membership--Bronze ($20.00/yr.)--will get them back. [:)]
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Posted: 1/2/2003 5:30:29 PM EDT
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[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=162574[/url]
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Posted: 1/2/2003 5:32:32 PM EDT
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LOL...I knew it without reading the tack.
PayPal will be sent shortly. Does this mean I can have an avatar under my name now? SWEET. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 5:33:26 PM EDT
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i just put in for the membership tonight.. hope it gets activated soon. I like that My active topics button.
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:15:49 PM EDT
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THAT FUKIN SUX!
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:17:47 PM EDT
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BooHoo
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:22:16 PM EDT
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GREAT! Now I'll have to send a check and wait Eighty weeks for the fucking service to be turned on!
SHIT! I should call the better business bureau! |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:22:56 PM EDT
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[img]http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/boohoo.gif[/img]
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:27:48 PM EDT
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[B]FALARAK[/B], LMAO--funny/cute thingie. [:D]
[b]markm[/b], I think GoatBoy/Staff has it whittled down to about 77 weeks. [:D] Edited to add: [b]markm[/b], don't get the Bronze membership if you want the fucking service--it's only available on the Gold and Platinum levels. Just a heads-up. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:30:50 PM EDT
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[b]LMAO!
I'm writing the BATF for an opinion on this B.S.![/b] |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:43:29 PM EDT
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What a bunch of whiney crackers! (Can I say that in this thread? [;)])
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:49:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: What a bunch of whiney crackers! (Can I say that in this thread? [;)]) Yes, of course you can. As a Gold Membership Member, you have your choice of whiney crackers, regular saltines, or salted [s]penis[/s], uh, peanuts. Enjoy! [:D] |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 7:55:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: GREAT! Now I'll have to send a check and wait Eighty weeks for the fucking service to be turned on! SHIT! I should call the better business bureau! Ha Ha! |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:04:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: What a bunch of whiney crackers! (Can I say that in this thread? [;)]) Guys, let me tell you, Ballsack is the most dedicated brother on this board. This man gyrated in a speedo before his elderly grandmother on Christmas morning and posted pics here to earn a free membership! If that isn't dedication to the board, what is? |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:17:19 PM EDT
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Screw the Platinum, Gold and Bronze.
I want to be a [b][size=4]BLACK MEMBER[/size=4][/b] Ok, maybe we could call it CARBIDE |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:20:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: Screw the Platinum, Gold and Bronze. I want to be a [b][size=4]BLACK MEMBER[/size=4][/b] Ok, maybe we could call it CARBIDE Even if you have to dance naked in front of [b]Balzac72's[/b] grandmother??? [:O] |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:31:26 PM EDT
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Guys, normally on this subject I am very caustic... Right now I'm going to speak sincerely from the heart.
It was so hard to get Juan to accept that this needed to be done. If you want to blame someone, blame me. Sometimes when you care about someone as much as I care about the Avilas you have to risk incurring their wrath to help them. When Juan lost his job and had no income coming in he was still paying at least $1,500 a month out of pocket to cover the bandwidth. Now maybe this was possible when he had a solid paycheck coming in, but honestly, why should he have EVER been paying out of pocket. Running this place is a full time job in and of itself. My fellows mods and staff give what time we have, and I'm sure it helps free up some time for Juan, but we don't do coding, we don't fix servers when they are down, we don't protect the board from denial of service attacks... That is however what Juan does into the wee hours of the morning. The fact that Michelle allows him to continue to breathe is a miracle in and of itself. Now I know money is tight. There were times when I couldn't scrape together $20 for something like a Bronze membership... but over time I could and would have found a way if it was important enough. So maybe you skip lunch once a week for a month to pay for a Team membership. Like anything in life we have to prioritize. I can tell you that there are a lot of current members who are dedicating to seeing others join our ranks and are sponsoring Team memberships for those who can not afford one. At the risk of being labeled an elitist I am going to offer one this month to a board member who is also a Mason, can demonstrate that he is in good standing with his lodge and can best explain to me the qualities that make for a good man and Mason and how this board embraces these same qualities. Details to follow. Juan, thank you for remaining my friend while I pushed this structure on you. If anyone has complaints... Bring them to me, don't badger the guy who was going to the poor house trying to please everybody. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:33:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Well, I broke down and got the cheapskate, er, I mean Bronze Membership.
$60 was a bit much for me, and my wife would have had kittens. This new system is GREAT! Thank you Goatboy for making the site affordable as well. And it is much faster. Come on Markm, $20 on paypal isnt that bag for CS. Oh, and see you Saturday. Just loaded up on SA and some remington .223 to shoot some full auto. WEEEEHOOO |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:44:25 PM EDT
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Hmmm..HR...
You MIGHT want to watch that offer. It is akin to offering a membership to "only" christians, or "only" jews, or "only" whatevers. I think you should just give the membership to Capitalist. He is one of your kind. I can bitch now. I already Paypalled for a Gold Membership. However, I think I would kick-in another $20 for a special moniker such as: 1. HUGE MEMBER (I qualify in many ways) 2. DONT-RE MEMBER 3. CANT-RE MEMBER 4. THIRD MEMBER 5. SHITTY MEMBER (That's the $5/year group) 6. HORNY MEMBER ("I'd hit it!" crowd) 7. IGNORANT MEMBER (McUzi-esque posters) |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 8:53:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hmmm..HR... You MIGHT want to watch that offer. It is akin to offering a membership to "only" christians, or "only" jews, or "only" whatevers. I think you should just give the membership to Capitalist. He is one of your kind. I can bitch now. I already Paypalled for a Gold Membership. However, I think I would kick-in another $20 for a special moniker such as: 1. HUGE MEMBER (I qualify in many ways) 2. DONT-RE MEMBER 3. CANT-RE MEMBER 4. THIRD MEMBER 5. SHITTY MEMBER (That's the $5/year group) 6. HORNY MEMBER ("I'd hit it!" crowd) 7. IGNORANT MEMBER (McUzi-esque posters) Maybe you are right... and I acknowledged it MIGHT be controversial... However, it is [b] MY [/b] money and I find it no different than saying I am offering a membership to: My favorite NYer Only members who are also members of the NRA, GOA, etc. Registered Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives... Members of a given profession - fireman, policeman, service personel... Like I said, MY funds and I can decide how they will be spent, criticism be damned. However, I do thank you for your words of caution. Its great how fellow board members always have your back. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 9:29:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:You MIGHT want to watch that offer. It is akin to offering a membership to "only" christians, or "only" jews, or "only" whatevers. what would be wrong with that? |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 9:54:22 PM EDT
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Since this seems to be the "tacked" topic of choice, see my comments here: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=162550&page=1[/url]
The future is what we make of it together. I am not trying to shoulder the entire burden, nor am I asking you to do likewise. My Active topics isn't going to kill you, it just makes life easier... and yeah losing search sucks which will be a priority for me to get some form back if possible. Spellcheck... well that just means more work for me. I am not going to shell out big bucks for that... it's a very manageable loss if it comes down to it. I hope you can understand where I am coming from. I am not locking anyone out of old threads, just trying to maximize the resources AND BW usage to squeeze every bit we can until we can afford another line. [=)] |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 10:01:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Yeah, whatever....
So, can I get the HUGE membership or not???[;D] If I didnt understand, I would'nt have bought the membership! I guess a being a GOLD member is almost as good as being a HUGE member. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 11:29:29 PM EDT
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LOL! I am sure I am just asking to be flamed, banned for life, etc, etc, but this place is really turning into a big joke. Just one big circle jerk. It used to be a great site where I spent absurd amounts of time. Yes, I used bandwidth, yes I am grateful for the site being free. But this board seems to have been taken over by a bunch of little yuppie brown nosing self congratulating bitchs (no offense). I would worry about offending people I remember as being genuinely good people, but I am sure that my post will be deleted before many people read it anyway. This board now has classes? What happened with the idea of just being members or not? Or just having everybody be the same? Well? Oh, I know guys...if I want to join the club, just pay some money and they will put a cute little platinum label by my name, to ensure that everybody knows I am a better member. Everybody here is equal, some are just more equal than others. [rolleyes] Oh yeah, services are now being suspended for non members, so they are not really equal at all. Am I whining about this? NO! I am a big boy and I know that this is private property of the Avila's and I respect the right of them to do whatever they wish with it. But come on guys, different classes of members, taking away services that have historically been free?
Goatboy, is there any way that I can pay to have my search rights restored without having some stupid label under my name? I can donate money to the site but I don't want to pay for some stupid label. I want my board name to be Rickyj, not Gold Rickyj, Bronze Rickyj or any of that other bullshit. I come here to here what other people with my interests think, not to try to be a member of this new little elitist movement. |
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Posted: 1/2/2003 11:38:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2003 11:48:51 PM EDT
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So you lost the search function... BFD! For $20 you can have it back. I don't care if you want a label under your name or an avatar or just to remain a "member". I'm just glad you are willing to support the site. If more people had been willing to do that in the first place maybe there wouldn't need to be levels of membership. The fact is, until the search function disappeared a whole lot of members wouldn't have given two cents to the site, while the advertisers and a small handful of members who gave a damn were footing the entire bill. Does that make them better? No, not in the least. But it does give them a right to feel like they have a vested interest in the site and feel as if they contribute to its continuation.
Goatboy doesn't want me guilting or pushing people into memberships, and I'll do my best not to. However, I won't sit idly by while you bash those people who are willing to step up to the plate. And if they get a little recognition in the process so be it. If you want to make a selfless gesture by making a donation to get the search function back and give up all the other team benefits, great. However, why didn't you just send Goatboy an email to that effect instead of posting the question here. Me thinks its a bit of grandstanding and theatrics. Incidently, all of the mods and staff walking around that are platinum members... they get a basic membership for free in compensation for their tireless service and the crap they put up with here... Many have decided to take the money that they save from not buying a gold membership and either upgrade their own accounts and/or give away free memberships to other board members. You can think what you want of me. I can be a real pain in the ass sometimes, but don't come here tearing down my friends and the people who put themselves out so that others might enjoy this site for free. Yeah, with the exception of a few functions this site is free and will remain so until such time as it kills Juan. So do us all a favor and lay off would ya? |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:09:57 AM EDT
[#28]
How about this...
I feel that new people visiting this site will NOT get as much out of it because they do not know what they are missing. This will lead to a LOWER number of new, paying members. I think GB should have a "free trial" type of thing (which is exactly what us past non-members had) to get people hooked. Then, when they dont have search or M.A.T., they will see what they are missing and maybe cough-up the $20. If this is done, and if membership was a flat $30, I think it could achieve growth and possible self-sustaining cash flow. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:12:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: LOL! I am sure I am just asking to be flamed, banned for life, etc, etc, but this place is really turning into a big joke. Just one big circle jerk. It used to be a great site where I spent absurd amounts of time. Yes, I used bandwidth, yes I am grateful for the site being free. But this board seems to have been taken over by a bunch of little yuppie brown nosing self congratulating bitchs (no offense). I would worry about offending people I remember as being genuinely good people, but I am sure that my post will be deleted before many people read it anyway. This board now has classes? What happened with the idea of just being members or not? Or just having everybody be the same? Well? Oh, I know guys...if I want to join the club, just pay some money and they will put a cute little platinum label by my name, to ensure that everybody knows I am a better member. Everybody here is equal, some are just more equal than others. [rolleyes] Oh yeah, services are now being suspended for non members, so they are not really equal at all. Am I whining about this? NO! I am a big boy and I know that this is private property of the Avila's and I respect the right of them to do whatever they wish with it. But come on guys, different classes of members, taking away services that have historically been free? Goatboy, is there any way that I can pay to have my search rights restored without having some stupid label under my name? I can donate money to the site but I don't want to pay for some stupid label. I want my board name to be Rickyj, not Gold Rickyj, Bronze Rickyj or any of that other bullshit. I come here to here what other people with my interests think, not to try to be a member of this new little elitist movement. I don't suppose a "good-bye" thread is coming out of this post? |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:16:32 AM EDT
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Just in case I didn't make myself unpopular enough with my last post here is another try: [:D]
After I finished my last post I had what I would think is a great idea. How about we post a donation fraction instead of a platinum, gold, etc. scheme? This would be very simple and give a true measure on who was really helping out the site instead of being a freeloader. A simple equation would work great [red][size=6] (amount donated to site)/bandwidth used) [/size=6][/red] This would also add a little touch of reality to the arguments of many of the "gold members" I am guessing that with my lil' 56k modem, my infrequent use of the search feature, and my complete lack of topics and replies posted with pictures my twenty dollar donation would cover a [b]much[/b] higher percentage of my personal bandwidth use than the hundred dollar donation of the people with DSL lines, thousands of replies, hundreds of topics, and heavy use of graphics and search. Or am I crazy? How much of the bandwidth is being used by a few people? I am guessing that most of the members and guests at this site post little, search less, and in general take up a small fraction of the bandwidth being used. We all know that there are a few people who read every topic, search often, and with thousands of posts. What percentage of the bandwidth do these "superposters" use? All I know is that with the amount of bandwidth I use twenty dollars is a hell of a lot more than the sixty dollars that Imbroglio is paying for his 7500+ posts (sorry Imbroglio). Yet he will be recognized as donating more to the site and receive: GOLD Membership - $60 a Year (All Bronze Membership functionality is included!) AR15.com EMAIL ADDRESS A simple mail redirect to an existing mail account. [red]A FULLY FUNCTIONAL email service![/red] You will get a pop3 account on mail.ar15.com and will be able to access email through either your email client or through a web client. We've made this THE email account to have! It includes: [YOURNICK]@ar15.com Spam Mail Filtering AntiVirus Protection Full Web Client ( ) [red]10 MEGS of disk space for large file transfers[/red] PHOTO GALLERY SERVER Members will be able to create virtual photo "Galleries" online and upload pictures to them. Public or Private albums for keeping pictures from prying eyes, or for sharing with others! [red]10 MEGS of disk space for image storing[/red] Unlimited galleries Simple user tools to create, edit, move, and delete pictures or galleries URLs to images right in your albums for easy linking Open linking to other sites for sharing, use on EBAY, etc (If abused, individual linking right will be removed!) GIVEAWAY BONUS You will receive one extra entry per giveaway! (2 per giveaway!) What does this stuff cost? Is this and more really being covered by the $40 increase in donation? Just sounds like too much bull to me. Edited to fix my fraction |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:30:15 AM EDT
[#31]
Have to add before I go to bedtime:
If I don't reply and you think it is just because I am being a bitch, IM me, because without [b]My Active Topics[/b] I have no way of knowing. [:D] Do you guys really think it is fair to charge the people with 200 posts over two years $20 if they want to search while Redmanfms, who has averaged over 6 posts a day during his membership, also pays $20 for the same "privilege"[?] |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:35:45 AM EDT
[#32]
I am, and will continually be a bronze member. As you can truly see by the post count verses member status, most of the guys who are sucking up the bandwidth are happy to pay for the platinum.
I could care less. No one on this board is going to look down on me because I paid less. When I was freeloading, I was still treated well. So I do not understand the point. No one is going to mock you for being a bronze member. Membership is good, but as everyone has said, not required. So pay up, or don't. You will still be welcome in my eyes, as well as everyone else. Those extras, like the server space, don't cost anything more, but they are "perks" to paying more. If there were not "perks," what would be the justification for paying more? Well, enough of that. See you on the next post. AZTrooper |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 3:23:45 AM EDT
[#33]
How long does it take for membership to kick in? I ponied up my money for a Bronze a few days ago, and I am still logging on as a "peon."
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Posted: 1/3/2003 3:43:44 AM EDT
[#34]
I just sent money ($60) via PayPal for the Gold Membership. However, the damn PayPal service didn't let me include any comments, like my ar15 user name. I got to PayPal via the link on the ar15 home page.
Ed, I'm sending you an e-mail. This is a great site and we should all support it, financially speaking, as best we can. I had planned on sending funds anyway, but the loss of the My Active Topics feature reminded me to do it now and not later. ;-) |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 5:07:34 AM EDT
[#35]
Hmmm....$60 a year to get the search and my topics back. Now I'm really thinking of not joining. I think everyone should have the right to search the content here. I was planning on joining just to show my support of the site but I'm really bothered by the idea that only members can search this site. I don't think I'll join for that reason alone. The information here is invaluable to everyone, member or not. Flame away.
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Posted: 1/3/2003 5:44:19 AM EDT
[#36]
Originally posted by innocent bystander: I think everyone should have the right to search the content here. To put this in a good historical perspective, would you like it better or worse if a test was instituted to determine your competency to use the search function? If this test was used to keep you from using the search function, then you could say your rights are being violated. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 5:45:13 AM EDT
[#37]
My membership kicked in less than 12 hours after I sent paypal.
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Posted: 1/3/2003 6:07:28 AM EDT
[#38]
[flame] OK, the lowest paying membership is $20/year or $1.67/month. I'd say that even if the services weren't tied to it, this would be a minimum contribution to help fund a great site so GB doesn't have to pull it down due to no funds.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As for ricky martin (rickyj) up top, if you decide to leave please skip the "good-bye" thread. It will only make you look like more of an ass. It's funny how when everything is free nobody offers up donations to help pay for all the hardware in the back office, but when shit starts to cost $$ there is always a BITCH around to let you know how "unfair" it is, or some similar comment that doesn't make them look like the bad guy. [b]I[/b] felt so bad about taking the site for granted that I shut up and paid the extra $40 to get up to the Platinum level, not because I thought it was cool {OK, so I do like platinum better than gold, but anyway...}, but because I now knew that this place was costing some serious cash to keep up and running. I don't think the service line is the $$$ hog. I may be wrong but the T1 or whatever is likely a fixed cost like $500-$1000/month independant of usage. At least that's how they market them here. It's things like the spell check program on topic replies that cost [b]per usage[/b]. So if you need to know the balance sheet details ask GB, he might share with you. Rather than make yourself out like an asshole, which you may not be. I am now considering offering two other people who are "members" a bronze membership. I have asked for the staff input so there will be two more guys who get their search feature back for being good guys and worthwhile to the site but for one reason or another can't pony up. Maybe you haven't noticed but there seems to be a lot of genorosity flying around because it does two things -- helps another member out and because it defers cost. buh-bye....... |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 6:53:45 AM EDT
[#39]
If you become a member do you still see all the banner ad's and other advertising?
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Posted: 1/3/2003 6:57:26 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: If you become a member do you still see all the banner ad's and other advertising? Yes, of course. They are unobtrusive and lead to good deals from good friends. These are the ones who really keep the site running, so we try to support them as much as possible. [:)] |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 7:30:37 AM EDT
[#41]
Let’s put this into perspective. Is there anyone who can’t afford 6 cents a day?
Bronze 6 cents a day Gold 17 cents a day Plat 28 cents a day The bronze level should always be the minimum level for the search and my topics features. IMHO they shouldn’t go back to a non-paying membership level. I don’t do Paypal so I need to get my lazy ass to the P.O. for a M.O. which I've been putting off for months. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 7:33:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: Hmmm....$60 a year to get the search and my topics back. Now I'm really thinking of not joining. I think everyone should have the right to search the content here. I was planning on joining just to show my support of the site but I'm really bothered by the idea that only members can search this site. I don't think I'll join for that reason alone. The information here is invaluable to everyone, member or not. Flame away. It's $20 not $60 for the search and my topics features. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 7:57:06 AM EDT
[#43]
If anyone was uncertain what the definition of "whiney bitch" was before this thread, they definately know what it means now!
The Search function has become part of a nonexistant class struggle. [rolleyes] How godamn pathetic! Ante up if you enjoy the feature, you obviously enjoy the site. That's about all I'll say since I wasn't given the opportunity to pay, since I decided to humiliate myself on the forum first! WHINE ON WHINER! |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 8:04:30 AM EDT
[#44]
One more thing on a serious note. Check this link: [url]www.hondaprelude.com[/url]
That is what happens when owners don't take measures to ensure the financial health of a site. The Avillas are very smart business men and that is exactly what is needed to ensure the future of the site. When my membership runs out, I will pay to extend it, not because I'm losing out on features, but because I want the "GOOOOOOLD MEMBER" status symbol next to my name. [rolleyes] And yes, my name is Balzac72 and I'm a little yuppie brown nosing self congratulating bitch. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 8:19:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Call me a "Whiney Bitch" but if I used the equipment exchange forums to sell products I would definitely want a search feature to be made available to everyone. Think of all the potential customers you are going to lose because they can't search for your product.
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Posted: 1/3/2003 9:01:45 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: Call me a "Whiney Bitch" but if I used the equipment exchange forums to sell products I would definitely want a search feature to be made available to everyone. Think of all the potential customers you are going to lose because they can't search for your product. Excellent point. There will be a new engine added shortly to replace the current EE. Having it setup as a forum causes too many problems and work and not enough protection for users. Yeah it will suck to get used to, but will have search, ability to lookup per state, and a mess of other abilities which everyone has wanted to see. As for why things are changing. There's a need for this, if there wasn't I wouldn't do it. I also have mentioned my hope to retore some sort of search for basic users. I am also working to get all the content back in here. Nothing is ever the way you want it, I sure as hell didn't expect to spend most of my time working on this thing! [=)] |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 9:32:39 AM EDT
[#47]
For now I have removed the level titles... I will see what the members wish and act on that. My goal was never to create a means of separation, and originally had even asked if it was better left removed.
I also think that with the upcoming custom titles, there's no need for it. [=P] I have updated the MyActiveTopics for members to cover 72 hours and am going to work on a MyTopics function for those who are not members to view only topics they have posted. This will be VERY light on resources and hopefully something which will make life a little easier. [=)] |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 10:12:12 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: Call me a "Whiney Bitch" but if I used the equipment exchange forums to sell products I would definitely want a search feature to be made available to everyone. Think of all the potential customers you are going to lose because they can't search for your product. Jason: An active seller makes his product re-appear when it has gone past the 72 hour/4 day lapse over. A good seller is an active seller. Ed |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:13:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: LOL! I am sure I am just asking to be flamed, banned for life, etc, etc, but this place is really turning into a big joke. Just one big circle jerk. It used to be a great site where I spent absurd amounts of time. Yes, I used bandwidth, yes I am grateful for the site being free. But this board seems to have been taken over by a bunch of little yuppie brown nosing self congratulating bitchs (no offense). I would worry about offending people I remember as being genuinely good people, but I am sure that my post will be deleted before many people read it anyway. This board now has classes? What happened with the idea of just being members or not? Or just having everybody be the same? Well? Oh, I know guys...if I want to join the club, just pay some money and they will put a cute little platinum label by my name, to ensure that everybody knows I am a better member. Everybody here is equal, some are just more equal than others. [rolleyes] Oh yeah, services are now being suspended for non members, so they are not really equal at all. Am I whining about this? NO! I am a big boy and I know that this is private property of the Avila's and I respect the right of them to do whatever they wish with it. But come on guys, different classes of members, taking away services that have historically been free? Goatboy, is there any way that I can pay to have my search rights restored without having some stupid label under my name? I can donate money to the site but I don't want to pay for some stupid label. I want my board name to be Rickyj, not Gold Rickyj, Bronze Rickyj or any of that other bullshit. I come here to here what other people with my interests think, not to try to be a member of this new little elitist movement. DITTO! I hate the Elitist attitude people seem to be getting here... Those who post thousands of replies of pointless garbage, then get this holier-than-thou attitude towards others really annoy me. Regardless of whether you win or lose an argument on the internet, the truth still stands: YOU'RE STILL A LOSER! I'll never understand the LOGIC behind the "Almighty Administrators" decision to REMOVE THE SEARCH... They [b]BITCH[/b] about and [b]LOCK[/b] duplicate threads all the time! Then they get REALLY pissy when people waste bandwidth. Don't they see that by REMOVING THE SEARCH, people can't search for specific topics, and will then START THEIR OWN topic about some horse topic that's been dead & beaten 14 times a month for the past 3 years... What a MINDLESS DECISION it was to REMOVE THE SEARCH. I wish the admins would use COMMON SENSE in such decision making... Looks like I'm going to have to scrounge up some $$ so I can become part of the Elitist micro-movement of the tainted ARFcom dream that once was freedom of information, freedom of ideas, and free exchange thereof. What's next Admins? Are you all going to get so greedy as to add Pop-Up ads? Why not some 5-second pop-up surveys? Some pop-up news screen (ex. AOL ticker)? What's next? Report us to the BATF if we post a photo of a possible pre-ban firearm, send an agent to our houses & apartments "Just to be safe" by finding out if we can prove they're preban? Are you now going to get rid of all non-paying member accounts, and require all those who don't want to merely lurk to buy their own account back just so we can have LIMITED features? Then have to upgrade? You're turning a formerly free site into MICROSOFT. |
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Posted: 1/3/2003 12:27:51 PM EDT
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[b]iNuhBaDNayburhood[/b], when you're able to be more rational, please read the various explanations about the reasons behind this. Just because you're not able to be provided "something for nothing" any longer does not mean it's "illogical," "mindless," or "lacks common sense." I know you're young, but life will require you to pay your way pretty soon. These changes are [b]necessary[/b], nothing more, nothing less. Please give me an example of this "elitist attitude" that you see. I watch for such things, and all I see is fellowship and comraderie. We will get past this, and all will be well in ARFCOM-land. [:)]
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