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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:33:41 PM EDT
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I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain how this isn't entrapment.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:33:42 PM EDT
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Can anyone say "entrapment"?
Is this the law that everyone's talking about, that the police won't enforce? |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:34:52 PM EDT
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http://poststar.com/news/local/safe-act-trial-postponed-until-august/article_2e4e40e0-f560-11e2-9cc3-001a4bcf887a.html Police records show that investigators were aware that Greene was trying to sell the gun for several weeks before brokering the deal, but instead waited until the day after the controversial gun law took effect, April 16, to purchase the rifle and make the arrest. Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} I spoke with the guy personally. The cop (buyer) jerked him around and gave him a "down payment" then came back with the rest of the money a couple days later. Another fine example of "protect and serve". Thank you JBT for trying to manufacture a criminal. There is no excuse, but I can hardly wait for people to try to rationalize the behavior of the police. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:36:03 PM EDT
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Can anyone say "entrapment"? Is this the law that everyone's talking about, that the police won't enforce? Yep. Same law. I guess this guy must have been caught by one of the handful of cops that are enforcing it... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:36:14 PM EDT
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http://poststar.com/news/local/safe-act-trial-postponed-until-august/article_2e4e40e0-f560-11e2-9cc3-001a4bcf887a.html Police records show that investigators were aware that Greene was trying to sell the gun for several weeks before brokering the deal, but instead waited until the day after the controversial gun law took effect, April 16, to purchase the rifle and make the arrest. Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} I spoke with the guy personally. The cop (buyer) jerked him around and gave him a "down payment" then came back with the rest of the money a couple days later. The police never go out of their way to create criminals, nah. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:36:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:38:35 PM EDT
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Wow that was sure nice of them....fuck NY and fuck those cops
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:39:02 PM EDT
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in b4 the "play stupid games" folks
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:39:41 PM EDT
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also in b4 the "see GD does hate LEO!" folks
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:40:34 PM EDT
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For those of us in the northeast, this isn't going to end well.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:42:22 PM EDT
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Wow that was sure nice of them....fuck NY and fuck those cops |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:43:59 PM EDT
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Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} I spoke with the guy personally. The cop (buyer) jerked him around and gave him a "down payment" then came back with the rest of the money a couple days later. Since they created the precedent of allowing FFLs who had started transactions prior to the enactment date to complete those transfers, I would think that this particular prosecution is DOA |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since they created the precedent of allowing FFLs who had started transactions prior to the enactment date to complete those transfers, I would think that this particular prosecution is DOA Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} I spoke with the guy personally. The cop (buyer) jerked him around and gave him a "down payment" then came back with the rest of the money a couple days later. Since they created the precedent of allowing FFLs who had started transactions prior to the enactment date to complete those transfers, I would think that this particular prosecution is DOA  |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:10:57 PM EDT
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Police records show that investigators were aware that Greene was trying to sell the gun for several weeks before brokering the deal, but instead waited until the day after the controversial gun law took effect, April 16, to purchase the rifle and make the arrest. Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} That sounds like the contract was already legally bound before the law took effect. It sounds like all the elements of a contract had been concluded...and something of value had changed hands. Prancing fuckwad tyrant DA's tying to make a name for himself at the expense of reality. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:11:46 PM EDT
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The police never go out of their way to create criminals, nah. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://poststar.com/news/local/safe-act-trial-postponed-until-august/article_2e4e40e0-f560-11e2-9cc3-001a4bcf887a.html Police records show that investigators were aware that Greene was trying to sell the gun for several weeks before brokering the deal, but instead waited until the day after the controversial gun law took effect, April 16, to purchase the rifle and make the arrest. Greene said he tried to make the deal on April 14, a day before the sale would have become illegal, but police stalled. {This is where the /quote tag won't go} I spoke with the guy personally. The cop (buyer) jerked him around and gave him a "down payment" then came back with the rest of the money a couple days later. The police never go out of their way to create criminals, nah. The governor did it for them . With malice ! May fuck be upon him and his merry band of criminals .
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:16:56 PM EDT
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I feel safer.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:17:27 PM EDT
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I thought upstate counties were opposed to the SAFE Act?
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:17:31 PM EDT
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The governor did it for them . With malice ! May fuck be upon him and his merry band of criminals . The governor make the cops wait until they could charge the guy with this new crime? Well fuck him then. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:25:13 PM EDT
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Give that fine officer an Armalite.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought upstate counties were opposed to the SAFE Act? Especially the police.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:55:36 PM EDT
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Watching an ad, and waiting until 1 day after the law takes effect to purchase it. I guess they wanted their first SAFE Act bust ASAP.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:00:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:01:46 PM EDT
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Can anyone say "entrapment"? Good Lord. No kidding.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:05:53 PM EDT
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I have talked to the guy on several occasions, and have vetted him as good as I can. He seems to be a good guy, not perfect, but a decent guy who deserves our support.
Awaiting Striker to approve a fundraiser link for the guy's legal expenses. I know most of you are phenomenally wealthy, as am I
 , but this guy is looking at more than a few grand in legal expenses and this party is just getting started. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:06:02 PM EDT
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Fuck those cops and cops like them.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:08:18 PM EDT
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Do police in NY take an oath to the Constitution of the United States?
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:12:57 PM EDT
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Do police in NY take an oath to the Constitution of the United States? 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:48:14 PM EDT
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Hopefully this blows up in the face of the DA and cops that decided this was a good idea. May fuck be upon them, and this bullshit law.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:13:08 PM EDT
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Bump for the late night folks.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:15:12 PM EDT
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Apparently not. Especially the police. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought upstate counties were opposed to the SAFE Act? Especially the police. Only the parts that affected them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:32:37 PM EDT
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Only the parts that affected them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought upstate counties were opposed to the SAFE Act? Especially the police. Only the parts that affected them. I was saying that in March. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:36:22 PM EDT
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he's going to walk..... sale started with the down payment..
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:58:35 PM EDT
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Can anyone say "entrapment"? Is this the law that everyone's talking about, that the police won't enforce? Yup ... fuck you Cuomo's Flying Monkeys. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 6:58:41 PM EDT
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he's going to walk..... sale started with the down payment.. Yeah he's gonna walk but not without paying out the ass in lawyer fees, court costs, time away from work. Not to mention the gun he tried to sell is gone probably won't get that back or the potential money from selling it to a legit buyer and the damage to his reputation. The damage is now done and it didn't even take a guilty verdict to get him there. 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 7:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah he's gonna walk but not without paying out the ass in lawyer fees, court costs, time away from work. Not to mention the gun he tried to sell is gone probably won't get that back or the potential money from selling it to a legit buyer and the damage to his reputation. The damage is now done and it didn't even take a guilty verdict to get him there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: he's going to walk..... sale started with the down payment.. Yeah he's gonna walk but not without paying out the ass in lawyer fees, court costs, time away from work. Not to mention the gun he tried to sell is gone probably won't get that back or the potential money from selling it to a legit buyer and the damage to his reputation. The damage is now done and it didn't even take a guilty verdict to get him there. When the time comes, I hope you and your friends can come up with a couple bucks each to ease this man's ride.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 8:07:42 PM EDT
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The circle jerk must have been monumental after this heroic police action.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:18:04 AM EDT
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Yeah he's gonna walk but not without paying out the ass in lawyer fees, court costs, time away from work. Not to mention the gun he tried to sell is gone probably won't get that back or the potential money from selling it to a legit buyer and the damage to his reputation. The damage is now done and it didn't even take a guilty verdict to get him there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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he's going to walk..... sale started with the down payment.. Yeah he's gonna walk but not without paying out the ass in lawyer fees, court costs, time away from work. Not to mention the gun he tried to sell is gone probably won't get that back or the potential money from selling it to a legit buyer and the damage to his reputation. The damage is now done and it didn't even take a guilty verdict to get him there. Plus an arrest record. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:24:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Well, as a New Yorker, I feel much much safer now.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:35:54 AM EDT
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I fucking hate NY.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:07:07 PM EDT
[#40]
bump for Friday's crew
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:11:12 PM EDT
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I can't believe how far rogue government will go to destroy people these days just to intimidate everyone else.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:57:06 PM EDT
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I hope and pray we can remove this cancer....
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