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Posted: 8/7/2014 8:30:42 AM EDT
Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials.

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine. Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.
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Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:32:04 AM EDT
Time to go Bear hunting....
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:32:29 AM EDT
Obama and Kerry have got this
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:33:02 AM EDT
Have F22's standing by and shoot down the next cocksucker in a Bear that enters US airspace.

But with 0 in the palace there is no chance of such an action.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:33:16 AM EDT
Putin is penetrating us. The Putin lovers just came.

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Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:34:01 AM EDT
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:34:07 AM EDT
The next time they send one to violate US air space, blow the motherfucker out of the sky. Then they'll stop sending them.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:34:22 AM EDT
I bet it was a hoot to be one of the US pilots scrambled in response.

"Hey, the Russians are coming! Get up there!"

"The Russians!?! No shit! That's awesome. WOLVERINES!"
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:34:54 AM EDT
Need to start the SR71 program back up and start doing flyovers of their country just to piss off Russia.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:35:59 AM EDT
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U.S. air defense identification zones
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the same as US Air Space or is thread title sensational?



ETA: I would imagine this would get penetrated regularly considering the proximity to Russia




ETA 2: Sensational

The US does not claim sovereignty over these zones per se, but does closely monitor and request information of all objects entering the zone.[5]


"if it is a Russian aircraft on a training mission, we allow them to continue to do their job."[6]
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Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:36:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
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What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:36:53 AM EDT
A sternly worded letter has already been sent by Obummer
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:37:15 AM EDT
Looks like Romney was right on this one too....
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:37:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
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I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.

Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:38:15 AM EDT
Bump.
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?


This guy...

Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:39:07 AM EDT
It's ok, Obama will apologize for having such inconvenient airspace borders.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:39:23 AM EDT
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I would hope that it would on a constant basis.............but would this Administration allow it on a constant basis? I know we had an Intel plane go through Sweden to leave Russkie airspace, but do we have offensive planes doing it? A little sabre rattling doesnt hurt anything

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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?

Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:42:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrahamD:


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.

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Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.



Thank you for a intelligent response, and in fact we are doing the same and probably never stopped doing it.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:43:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The next time they send one to violate US air space, blow the motherfucker out of the sky. Then they'll stop sending them.
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Call up Putin and say exactly that, then go on CNN and tell the world you said so.

Then do it.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:44:52 AM EDT
We should do it and never quit doing it.............return the favor

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Originally Posted By MrBear80229:


Thank you for a intelligent response, and in fact we are doing the same and probably never stopped doing it.
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Originally Posted By MrBear80229:
Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.



Thank you for a intelligent response, and in fact we are doing the same and probably never stopped doing it.

Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:45:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
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The article is sensationalized. The Russians have penetrated our air defense identification zone, not U.S. air space. Our air defense identification zones extend out into international air space.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:45:49 AM EDT
The penetrations are going to increase. They are going to increase and we will be lucky to live through it.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:45:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
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Instead we violate Sweden's airspace!
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:46:54 AM EDT
With our luck they will probably reimburse the Russians for the fuel they used breaching our airspace......
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:47:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
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He does have balls. Unfortunately, they tend to be slapping his chin.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:47:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
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Good idea, lets get this nuclear war going strong!

This is just Cold War II starting up folks, thats all.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:47:49 AM EDT
They didn't enter sovereign US airspace but rather flew into the ADIZ, just like we routinely do to them.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:48:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrahamD:


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.

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Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.




Gnashing. Gnashing teeth.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:48:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By whollyshite:
Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials.

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine. Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.
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Check your title. ADIZ is not necessarily US "air space".
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:48:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?
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Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them

What makes you think this doesn't happen with US aircraft all the time?


What, you mean those two planes we created specifically to fly over other peoples territory?
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:49:17 AM EDT
just send up an AA missile next time and take one out
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:49:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrahamD:


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.

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Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.



Those fuckers have shot down a number of US aircraft under similar circumstances over the years. And there was a recent incident with an RC-135 that may have turned into a shootdown had it not diverted into Swiss air space. That aircraft was in international airspace as well, but the Russians were still coming after it. If they want to play aggressive, we should reciprocate.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:50:01 AM EDT
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnst says:
"I think that there have been a number of situations in which you’ve seen this administration intervene in a meaningful way that has substantially furthered American interests and substantially improved the tranquility of the global community."
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:51:02 AM EDT
The Russkies have been doing this since forever. The send in the Bears, we send out the interceptors, the pilots take pictures of each other and then fly home.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:51:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bettendorf:
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dumb and dumber

these two flaming idiots will have us in another world conflict before it's all over


this administration not only pisses me off for their blatant dis-regard for the constitution, they scare the crap out of me
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:52:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:


Good idea, lets get this nuclear war going strong!

This is just Cold War II starting up folks, thats all.
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The next time they send one to violate US air space, blow the motherfucker out of the sky. Then they'll stop sending them.


Good idea, lets get this nuclear war going strong!

This is just Cold War II starting up folks, thats all.


The Russians aren't going to launch a nuclear strike against us if we shoot down one of their planes. Fuck, they shot down quite a few US aircraft during the course of the Cold War under similar circumstances, yet we didn't go nuclear on them did we?
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:53:25 AM EDT
I penetrated putins daughter 67+the tip times
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Maybe they were just trying to get a closer look at the celebrities up there on Deadliest Catch.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


Those fuckers have shot down a number of US aircraft under similar circumstances over the years. And there was a recent incident with an RC-135 that may have turned into a shootdown had it not diverted into Swiss air space. That aircraft was in international airspace as well, but the Russians were still coming after it. If they want to play aggressive, we should reciprocate.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.



Those fuckers have shot down a number of US aircraft under similar circumstances over the years. And there was a recent incident with an RC-135 that may have turned into a shootdown had it not diverted into Swiss air space. That aircraft was in international airspace as well, but the Russians were still coming after it. If they want to play aggressive, we should reciprocate.

We do, by sending fighters to intercept their aircraft. They sent fighters to intercept our aircraft and our aircrew ran and hid behind the Swedes.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:55:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By armoredsaint:
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Not an AA missile but an impromptu missile test when they come into our air space unannounced might be fun. Then when they bitch say "Sorry if you had let us know ahead of time it wouldn't have happened.".
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 8:57:41 AM EDT
It happens all the time up here. Far Far more than people realize. Its just now being sensationalized due to current events.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:00:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Time to go Bear hunting....
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Zero won't do anything.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:02:32 AM EDT



“Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policy of the 1950s, and the economic policies of the 1920s.” ~ President Obama
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http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/obama_the_80s_called_they_want_their_foreign_policy_back/
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:05:52 AM EDT
And O has egg on his face for that comment now.............only he and his minions arent smart enough to admit that

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http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/obama_the_80s_called_they_want_their_foreign_policy_back/
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“Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policy of the 1950s, and the economic policies of the 1920s.” ~ President Obama


http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/obama_the_80s_called_they_want_their_foreign_policy_back/

Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:12:18 AM EDT
Toying with Obama, but he doesn't case and is on vacation for 6 weeks
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:18:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By shoeh8ter:

The article is sensationalized. The Russians have penetrated our air defense identification zone, not U.S. air space. Our air defense identification zones extend out into international air space.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The next time they send one to violate US air space, blow the motherfucker out of the sky. Then they'll stop sending them.

The article is sensationalized. The Russians have penetrated our air defense identification zone, not U.S. air space. Our air defense identification zones extend out into international air space.

Good info.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:18:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrahamD:


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.

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Originally Posted By GrahamD:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
If we had a POTUS with balls, we would do the same to them


I bet we probably do.

Everybody quit wailing and mashing teeth and calling for planes to be shot down. This is just sabre rattling, happens all the time.

No President, any of them, past or current, is going to okay a Russian plane being shot down in these circumstances.



I hate when my teeth get mashed.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:19:04 AM EDT
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“Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policy of the 1950s, and the economic policies of the 1920s.” ~ President Obama
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All of those things seem like they would be improvements over current policies.
Link Posted: 8/7/2014 9:19:07 AM EDT
I'm genuinely curious if we're going to see a WWIII....
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