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Posted: 8/4/2009 7:34:38 PM EST
From August 5 Wall Street Journal.

Russian Subs Seen Off U.S. East Coast


WASHINGTON –– Two Russian attack submarines were detected patrolling the waters off the East Coast of the U.S. in recent days, including one that came as close as 200 miles offshore, according to U.S. military officials.

Although Pentagon officials monitoring the subs' movements didn't consider them threatening, one senior military official said the patrols were unusual, given the weakened state of the Russian navy and the failure of Moscow to conduct such missions in years.

"Is it unusual? Yes, but we don't view it as provocative at all," the official said, adding that both subs remained in international waters at all times. The patrols were reported on the Web site of the New York Times.

During the Cold War, subs from both the U.S. and the Soviet Union regularly patrolled the North Atlantic in an elaborate game of naval brinkmanship intended to track rival fleets and position themselves strategically in case of war.

The senior military official said the two Russian vessels were nuclear-powered Akula class submarines, which were used during the Cold War to track North Atlantic Treaty Organization vessels and, in the event of war, attack enemy subs and ships with torpedoes and missiles. Only larger ballistic-missile subs are used for nuclear-weapons launches.

The Times reported that one of the subs had recently made port in Cuba, but the official said the U.S. has no confirmation of that move and that the second sub is believed instead to have remained close to Greenland.

The submarine patrols are the latest series of recent military operations by the Russians –– many of which Moscow dropped in the years following the Cold War –– which analysts believe are an attempt to reassert the stature of its military.

Last year, a Russian long-range strategic bomber buzzed the U.S. aircraft carrier Nimitz and its accompanying flotilla as the Pearl Harbor-based strike group was patrolling the Pacific.

Two years ago, the Royal Air Force scrambled fighters to intercept Russian strategic "Bear" bombers that were flying patrols close to British airspace.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:36:09 PM EST
So it begins . . .
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:37:21 PM EST
Two more have been spotted?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:38:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank:
Two more have been spotted?

Scramble the ARFCOM R/C air force.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:41:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 7:41:50 PM EST by raven]
Did you see them personally? If not:

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:43:58 PM EST
They're just trying to find their lost sub

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:45:02 PM EST
A coworker of mine who is in the Navy told me once about how common this sort of thing is. The ocean is a HUGE place and subs really aren't very large vessels really. Trying to find one that doesn't want to be found would be like trying to find a hay-colored needle in a haystack.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:45:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:47:11 PM EST
The Russians are Coming!!! The Russians are Coming!!! Oh Crap, they're here!!!
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 7:47:37 PM EST
Damn you CWO!
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 8:18:43 PM EST
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[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 8:34:31 PM EST by VA-gunnut]
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