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Posted: 8/31/2008 10:35:31 AM EST
Owner of Russian opposition website killed
13 minutes ago
An opposition Internet news site owner in Russia's troubled Ingushetia region was fatally shot on Sunday soon after being detained by police, and his colleagues called for a rally to protest his death.

Magomed Yevloyev is one of the most high-profile journalists to be killed in Russia since investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya was shot dead near her Moscow apartment in 2006, provoking condemnation of Russia's record on media freedom.

Yevloyev, owner of the www.Ingushetiya.ru website, was a vocal critic of the region's Kremlin-backed administration, accused by opponents of crushing dissent and free speech.

A lawyer for the website -- which survived repeated official attempts to close it down -- said police met Yevloyev at the steps of the aircraft after he flew in to Ingushetia's airport, put him in a Volga saloon car and drove him away.

"As they drove he was shot in the temple... They threw him out of the car near the hospital," lawyer Kaloi Akhilgov told Reuters by telephone.

"He was discovered there and they quickly put him on the operating table, which is where he died."

Akhilgov said Yevloyev, who was in his thirties, flew from Moscow to Nazran on the same flight as the Kremlin-backed local leader Murat Zyazikov. A spokesman for Zyazikov could not be reached for comment.

A posting on Yevloyev's website called on "all those who are not indifferent" to his killing to gather for a demonstration in Nazran, Ingushetia's biggest town where Zyazikov's opponents have clashed with riot police in recent years.

"A preliminary investigation is being carried out into the incident as a result of which M.Yevloyev was killed," said Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the investigations unit of the Prosecutor General's Office in Moscow.

Markin said police had tried to bring Yevloyev in for questioning but that an incident occurred in which he received a gunshot wound that led to his death.

Interfax news agency cited an unnamed law enforcement source as saying Yevloyev was shot by accident and said prosecutors had opened a criminal case for causing the death by carelessness.

Akhilgov said he doubted the shooting was an accident. "It was in no way a mistake," he told Reuters.

Media freedom groups say Russia is one of the world's most dangerous countries for journalists.

Ingushetia is a poor, mainly Muslim, region in Russia's North Caucasus region and borders Chechnya, scene of a separatist rebellion that has now been largely quelled.

Ingushetia's leader, Zyazikov, has been struggling to contain a low-level insurgency by Islamist militants. Opponents accuse Zyazikov of persecuting opposition activists.

Zyazikov, a former security service officer in the local KGB, has criticized the reporting by Ingushetiya.ru and brought a court case earlier this year trying to close down the site.

Link

Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:37:07 AM EST
Ahh, just like the good old days. The old Soviet Bear is back.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:39:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Ahh, just like the good old days. The old Soviet Bear is back.


Yep, and I thought they were done when the Berlin Wall came down.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:41:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 10:42:35 AM EST by vito113]



Dis me would you Comradski!


Putin putting in range time with his service pistol. FSB still use the Stechkin
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:44:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 10:45:24 AM EST by Max_Mike]
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:46:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:47:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 10:48:16 AM EST by Black-Tiger]

Originally Posted By vito113:




Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:55:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 10:58:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.

Cleaning up the streets one journalist at a time.Probably had jewish connections.Atleast they didn't use messy poisens this time.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:01:24 AM EST
Russia is another commodity rich kleptocracy suffering from dutch disease and a giant bubble that is now bursting. Not to mention a dying population.


You could make money shorting Russia as it circles the drain. I am extremely bearish (no pun intended) on Russia.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:01:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 11:02:30 AM EST by Lumpy196]

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.



Where as a precision air strike on say, Zarqawi, isn't


I'm no fan of the Russians, but can't we be intellectually honest about such things?
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:03:31 AM EST


"Do not fuck with me!"
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:03:58 AM EST


In Russia, government investigate journalist.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:05:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.



Where as a precision air strike on say, Zarqawi, isn't


I'm no fan of the Russians, but can't we be intellectually honest about such things?


Hmmm...international terrorist responsible for the murders of hundreds, if not thousands (including innocent women and children) versus...a journalist? Yep pretty fair comparison if I don't say so myself.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:08:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 11:08:42 AM EST by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.



Where as a precision air strike on say, Zarqawi, isn't


I'm no fan of the Russians, but can't we be intellectually honest about such things?




You just were not

They picked Yevloyev up off the fucking street... hardly the same thing.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:15:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Wow............


Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:15:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Hmmm...international terrorist responsible for the murders of hundreds, if not thousands (including innocent women and children) versus...a journalist? Yep pretty fair comparison if I don't say so myself.



So now you're a supporter of Muslim separatist movements?


Good for you.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:17:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
They picked Yevloyev up off the fucking street... hardly the same thing.


Please, explain to me the difference other than the obvious one of a pistol versus a laser guided bomb, both of which were used with great deliberation.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:19:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Hmmm...international terrorist responsible for the murders of hundreds, if not thousands (including innocent women and children) versus...a journalist? Yep pretty fair comparison if I don't say so myself.



So now you're a supporter of Muslim separatist movements?


Good for you.




I don't have to support Muslim separatist movements to know you should not snatch people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head just because you want to and you can get away with it.

An I think after you think about it awhile...
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:22:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 11:25:05 AM EST by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
They picked Yevloyev up off the fucking street... hardly the same thing.


Please, explain to me the difference other than the obvious one of a pistol versus a laser guided bomb, both of which were used with great deliberation.




Well it is exactly the same... except for the car, journalist vs mass murder, the custody, the shooting in the head, etc., ect., etc.

Exactly the same.

ETA: Are you advocating we just shoot any Muslim we don’t like… or just all Muslims… is this a state right or individual right or both… do we need a big game tag?
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:24:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:
zhurnal.lib.ru/img/c/chuksin_n_j/putin/putin_1.jpg


Dis me would you Comradski!


Putin putting in range time with his service pistol. FSB still use the Stechkin


Great pic.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:26:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
They picked Yevloyev up off the fucking street... hardly the same thing.


Please, explain to me the difference other than the obvious one of a pistol versus a laser guided bomb, both of which were used with great deliberation.




Well it is exactly the same... except for the car, journalist vs mass murder, the custody, the shooting in the head, etc., ect., etc.

Exactly the same.

ETA: Are you advocating we just shoot any Muslim we don’t like… or just all Muslims… is this a state right or individual right or both… do we need a big game tag?

Journalist=terrorist...in Russia anyhow.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:27:45 AM EST
These things happen...
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:28:24 AM EST



A lawyer for the website said police met Yevloyev at the steps of the aircraft after he flew in to Ingushetia's airport, put him in a Volga saloon car and drove him away.

"As they drove he was shot in the temple... They threw him out of the car near the hospital," lawyer Kaloi Akhilgov told Reuters by telephone.

"He was discovered there and they quickly put him on the operating table, which is where he died."

"A preliminary investigation is being carried out into the incident as a result of which M.Yevloyev was killed," said Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the investigations unit of the Prosecutor General's Office in Moscow.

Markin said police had tried to bring Yevloyev in for questioning but that an incident occurred in which he received a gunshot wound that led to his death.

Interfax news agency cited an unnamed law enforcement source as saying Yevloyev was shot by accident and said prosecutors had opened a criminal case for causing the death by carelessness.

Akhilgov said he doubted the shooting was an accident. "It was in no way a mistake," he told Reuters.

Media freedom groups say Russia is one of the world's most dangerous countries for journalists.

Zyazikov, a former security service officer in the local KGB, has criticized the reporting by Ingushetiya.ru and brought a court case earlier this year trying to close down the site.


... and don't you forget it it , Komrad ......


Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:28:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.


Bush hasn't been blamed for this yet???
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:30:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Hmmm...international terrorist responsible for the murders of hundreds, if not thousands (including innocent women and children) versus...a journalist? Yep pretty fair comparison if I don't say so myself.



So now you're a supporter of Muslim separatist movements?


Good for you.







Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:31:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brohawk:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.


Bush hasn't been blamed for this yet???

Didn't you get the memo, Bush is too dumb , Cheny is the one feared more than Putin.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:31:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brohawk:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Some will say just more of Putin saving Greek Orthodox Russia...

It was for Yevloyevs own good he attacked first.



Zapping muslim militant supporters is a bad thing?




Yes snatching people up off the streets, not charging them with anything, and then shooting them in the head is bad. Political assassination is political assassination.


Bush hasn't been blamed for this yet???


Well since our Euro buddy approves this behavior I guess we should start in Gitmo and finish in Teheran.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:33:25 AM EST
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:40:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Hmmm...international terrorist responsible for the murders of hundreds, if not thousands (including innocent women and children) versus...a journalist? Yep pretty fair comparison if I don't say so myself.



So now you're a supporter of Muslim separatist movements?


Good for you.



Wow. Great logic there, stud.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:43:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…





Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:49:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2008 11:51:09 AM EST by misc]
Two competing systems of Totalitarianism. The Communism won out over Nazism. Now it's Communism vs Islam. A simple survival of the fittest contest!
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 11:51:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…







That is true.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 12:06:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By misc:
Two competing systems of Totalitarianism. The Communism won out over Nazism. Now it's Communism vs Islam. A simple survival of the fittest contest!


Corrupt and authoritarian State Capitalism is a far cry from Communism. And Russia under Putin is still less corrupt and less repressive than our wonderful friends, the PRC.
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 12:13:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By misc:
Two competing systems of Totalitarianism. The Communism won out over Nazism. Now it's Communism vs Islam. A simple survival of the fittest contest!



Chechnia is pacified now… when the Russians take the gloves off it's usually tears before bedtime for the defenders…





Link Posted: 8/31/2008 12:58:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By GBME:
Owner of Russian opposition website killed
13 minutes ago
An opposition Internet news site owner in Russia's troubled Ingushetia region was fatally shot on Sunday soon after being detained by police, and his colleagues called for a rally to protest his death.

Magomed Yevloyev is one of the most high-profile journalists to be killed in Russia since investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya was shot dead near her Moscow apartment in 2006, provoking condemnation of Russia's record on media freedom.

Yevloyev, owner of the www.Ingushetiya.ru website, was a vocal critic of the region's Kremlin-backed administration, accused by opponents of crushing dissent and free speech.

A lawyer for the website -- which survived repeated official attempts to close it down -- said police met Yevloyev at the steps of the aircraft after he flew in to Ingushetia's airport, put him in a Volga saloon car and drove him away.

"As they drove he was shot in the temple... They threw him out of the car near the hospital," lawyer Kaloi Akhilgov told Reuters by telephone.

"He was discovered there and they quickly put him on the operating table, which is where he died."

Akhilgov said Yevloyev, who was in his thirties, flew from Moscow to Nazran on the same flight as the Kremlin-backed local leader Murat Zyazikov. A spokesman for Zyazikov could not be reached for comment.

A posting on Yevloyev's website called on "all those who are not indifferent" to his killing to gather for a demonstration in Nazran, Ingushetia's biggest town where Zyazikov's opponents have clashed with riot police in recent years.

"A preliminary investigation is being carried out into the incident as a result of which M.Yevloyev was killed," said Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the investigations unit of the Prosecutor General's Office in Moscow.

Markin said police had tried to bring Yevloyev in for questioning but that an incident occurred in which he received a gunshot wound that led to his death.

Interfax news agency cited an unnamed law enforcement source as saying Yevloyev was shot by accident and said prosecutors had opened a criminal case for causing the death by carelessness.

Akhilgov said he doubted the shooting was an accident. "It was in no way a mistake," he told Reuters.

Media freedom groups say Russia is one of the world's most dangerous countries for journalists.

Ingushetia is a poor, mainly Muslim, region in Russia's North Caucasus region and borders Chechnya, scene of a separatist rebellion that has now been largely quelled.

Ingushetia's leader, Zyazikov, has been struggling to contain a low-level insurgency by Islamist militants. Opponents accuse Zyazikov of persecuting opposition activists.

Zyazikov, a former security service officer in the local KGB, has criticized the reporting by Ingushetiya.ru and brought a court case earlier this year trying to close down the site.

Link



Old shit, new smell?
Link Posted: 8/31/2008 1:07:34 PM EST
You can take the boy out of the KGB, but you can't take the KGB out of the boy.
Link Posted: 9/1/2008 11:37:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…







He's really aiming to fill the gap in the world that Saddam left behind.


Link Posted: 9/1/2008 11:39:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By GBME:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…







He's really aiming to fill the gap in the world that Saddam left behind.




Not much to admire in Putin unless you are pretty twisted.
Link Posted: 9/2/2008 12:08:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2008 12:08:58 PM EST by GBME]

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By GBME:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…







He's really aiming to fill the gap in the world that Saddam left behind.




Not much to admire in Putin unless you are pretty twisted.


Yep, maybe one day we'll see him swinging from a rope and the people of Russia will finally have a chance to be free...



Link Posted: 9/2/2008 12:09:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2008 12:13:05 PM EST
in soviet russia, gun fires you
Link Posted: 9/3/2008 10:20:15 PM EST
Another prominent critic got shot yesterday, while he was sitting in his car.
Link Posted: 9/3/2008 10:23:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/grozny6.jpg



Say what you will about Putin, but that looks like one badass dude.
Link Posted: 9/3/2008 10:41:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Vasiliy:

Originally Posted By vito113:

eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/grozny6.jpg



Say what you will about Putin, but that looks like one badass dude.


He looks like the evil murdering KGB bastard that he is.

For Putin, intimidation, murder and brutality are just legitimate political tools.

Link Posted: 9/3/2008 10:56:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By Vasiliy:

Originally Posted By vito113:

eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/grozny6.jpg



Say what you will about Putin, but that looks like one badass dude.


He looks like the evil murdering KGB bastard that he is.

For Putin, intimidation, murder and brutality are just legitimate political tools.


The people love him and he has a huge approval rating. Many Russians look forward to Czar Vladimir running for President again in 4 years.

Link Posted: 9/3/2008 11:02:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By Vasiliy:

Originally Posted By vito113:

eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/grozny6.jpg



Say what you will about Putin, but that looks like one badass dude.


He looks like the evil murdering KGB bastard that he is.

For Putin, intimidation, murder and brutality are just legitimate political tools.


The people love him and he has a huge approval rating. Many Russians look forward to Czar Vladimir running for President again in 4 years.



Yes the Russians have a long history of embracing genocidal tyrants.

Link Posted: 9/3/2008 11:13:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By Vasiliy:

Originally Posted By vito113:

eyeofthestorm.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/grozny6.jpg



Say what you will about Putin, but that looks like one badass dude.


He looks like the evil murdering KGB bastard that he is.

For Putin, intimidation, murder and brutality are just legitimate political tools.


The people love him and he has a huge approval rating. Many Russians look forward to Czar Vladimir running for President again in 4 years.



Yes the Russians have a long history of embracing genocidal tyrants.




The Russian people like strong leaders… Putin fits their requirements.
Link Posted: 9/3/2008 11:55:15 PM EST
The Russian Population is like that woman who refuses to leave the abusive husband. Its easier to stay and get abused. Democracy is not in their consciousness like it is in Western countries
Link Posted: 9/4/2008 12:04:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
The Russian Population is like that woman who refuses to leave the abusive husband. Its easier to stay and get abused. Democracy is not in their consciousness like it is in Western countries



Ivan the Terrible is still a hero… go figure.
Link Posted: 9/4/2008 12:13:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By GBME:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Putin is wracking up quite a list of "dead" critics.



Love him or loathe him, you've got to admire Vlad's total disregard for 'approvals ratings' and what Amnesty International will think…







He's really aiming to fill the gap in the world that Saddam left behind.




Not much to admire in Putin unless you are pretty twisted.


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