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Posted: 12/30/2011 3:12:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 3:13:37 AM EDT by Win_88]
Just saw on Fox and ABC that a Russian Nuclear Sub has been burning out of control most of the night with 3 men still trapped inside. Officials are deciding on wether or not to flood the sub to put out the fire.

ETA.
Don't know if this is a dupe.
Search didn't find any match on submarine.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:13:41 AM EDT
Poor bastards stuck in that thing. I'd hate to go out that way.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:15:13 AM EDT
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:18:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:22:05 AM EDT
Nothing on CNN, MSNBC.

On Foxnews


Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday.

The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire.

The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs.




More here

Fox
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:22:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 3:23:57 AM EDT by Taboot]
nvm, didn't read article.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:24:56 AM EDT
"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?"
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:38:19 AM EDT
An unspecified number of crew have remained inside the submarine, Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov said in a statement. He said they have reported that the condition on board has remained normal and insisted there was no danger of fire spreading inside the submarine.


Hopefully true.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:38:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hammet:
"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?"


lol I just lost it when I read that hahaha
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:39:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.


What would the USN do?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 3:41:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 3:41:32 AM EDT by satcong]
Any news of a sailor that loses his life is a tragic moment for anyone that's been haze grey and underway. God help them. RIP
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:09:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.

During WWII, only about 25% of the men who served on German U-boats made it home alive at the end of the war.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:13:31 AM EDT
You mean you've lost another one Vladimir?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:17:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.


Same here. My dad served on subs back in the early 70's and I don't know how. I've been on a dry docked one and that was too damn cramped for my tastes.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:20:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hammet:
"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?"


Hunt For A Red Fire Extingisher.

Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:20:31 AM EDT
I've toured the West Virginia and no way I could serve in that.....
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:21:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.


Not on a Russian Sub. They dont have a great track record.. US subs seem to be a bit safer.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:26:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 4:26:33 AM EDT by hammet]
Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.


Not on a Russian Sub. They dont have a great track record.. US subs seem to be a bit safer.




Yeah, but who would be a better capeetan....

Sean Connery or Harrison Ford?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:26:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:27:34 AM EDT
Ivan seems to have a horrible track record with thier Nuke subs, and anything involving fissile materials for that matter.

I understand the "suffer for your country" mentality the Ruskies have, but damn...
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:34:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 4:36:04 AM EDT by delemorte]
Originally Posted By hammet:
Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.


Not on a Russian Sub. They dont have a great track record.. US subs seem to be a bit safer.




Yeah, but who would be a better capeetan....

Sean Connery or Harrison Ford?


since neither of them are russian and played russians i will have to go with Kelsey Grammer with Lauren Holly as my first officer .

Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:36:05 AM EDT
I saw a video on TV showing the fire equipment sending water over a building to put out the fire. They are well keeping their distance on this one.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:42:33 AM EDT
I'd like to think they're just teaching the Iranians some abandon ship drills. Sadly, that's probably not the case.

They are not our enemies right now. And even if they were I'd pray for the men trapped aboard.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:45:31 AM EDT
Reported as a Delta IV



_________________________________________________________
("Shucka, what you call Victor III".––Zukovsky after 007 asks him what class of submarine his nephew Captains, (w,stte), "The World is Not Enough")
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:49:37 AM EDT
Huge SOB
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:50:29 AM EDT
Jesus...
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:01:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
I've toured the West Virginia and no way I could serve in that.....


Very spacious compared a fast attack boat.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:06:35 AM EDT
If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:09:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 338winmag:
If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh?


In drydock?

Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:15:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 5:17:40 AM EDT by jerrwhy01]
Originally Posted By Win_88:
Nothing on CNN, MSNBC.

On Foxnews


Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday.

The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire.

The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs.




More here

Fox



So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:19:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By 338winmag:
If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh?


In drydock?



Hey, drydocks submerge. How do you think they get the boat in one in the first place?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:21:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 5:25:20 AM EDT by Snowleopard]
I'm sure it's just an accidental error but Delta IV's have two reactors.

Another source.
___________________________________________________
("Captain, in all your travels, did you ever have word from the other colony?"––back to nature colonist, (w,stte), ST:TNG "Up the Long Ladder")
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:33:56 AM EDT
My shocked face.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:51:55 AM EDT
Some were puzzled when the spokesman for the Russian Navy gave his briefing wear a Nuke Protection suit, then refused to take questions. A couple of reporters began clearly alarmed when the spokesman ran to an idling car and raced away while the rest of the idiots were trying to shout questions.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:56:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By scottlang:
Originally Posted By hammet:
"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?"


Hunt For A Red Fire Extingisher.



Well played.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:00:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:02:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
Originally Posted By Win_88:
Nothing on CNN, MSNBC.

On Foxnews


Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday.

The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire.

The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs.




More here

Fox



So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate.


OK.

Like all communist countries during a disaster like this.

Keep the body count low in the press.

Report only about the courage of those involved.

Distract attention from the truth.

Blame somebody else for the accident.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:02:59 AM EDT
Russian authorities report that the fire has been put out. No deaths apparently, nine crewmembers hospitalized after inhaling fumes.

Picture of the fire from Thursday:

Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:05:22 AM EDT
Russia: Fire on Nuclear Submarine Finally Extinguished


link
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:08:04 AM EDT
Always sad to hear these stories. What is it about Russian subs that make them so unsafe? The design or maintenance?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:08:57 AM EDT
Super heated metal cooled rapidly by nice cold water...............if it ever goes to sea again I wouldn't want to be on board for a depth test dive.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:11:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snowleopard:
Reported as a Delta IV
http://www.submarines.zx6.ru/pics/subs/ussr/deltaIV/400_D-IV.jpg
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/pl667bdrm7.jpg
http://www.physics.irfu.se/~jb/images/delta-4.jpg
_________________________________________________________
("Shucka, what you call Victor III".––Zukovsky after 007 asks him what class of submarine his nephew Captains, (w,stte), "The World is Not Enough")


That's a big sucker
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:13:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 6:15:36 AM EDT by Blue_Monkey]
Before:


After:
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:14:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 6:17:41 AM EDT by Star_Scream]

Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.

Especially a Russian sub.

But they are in no way our friends I say we cheer for total hull loss

ETA: A boomer. we should be over there with lighter fluid.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:19:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Super heated metal cooled rapidly by nice cold water...............if it ever goes to sea again I wouldn't want to be on board for a depth test dive.


No shit... I wonder if the hull got that hot, though.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:23:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate.


Can a fire even make an unarmed nuke go critical?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:24:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Brutusfennicus:
Russian authorities report that the fire has been put out. No deaths apparently, nine crewmembers hospitalized after inhaling fumes.

Picture of the fire from Thursday:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k566/u01ohb5/1305552340176.jpg


Do they have a regular ship inside that dry dock with the sub? Sure looks like it from that angle. Must be a pretty big dry dock. Anyone have information on the dry docks they use there?
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:25:54 AM EDT
I've got this book, and it's fascinating story of disaster piling on top of disaster - fire, poisonous smoke, flooding, rocket fuel dissolving hatch seals, radioactive contamination and deaths, and capped off by typical Soviet charges of treason and sabotage against the surviving crewmen.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-219


The incident

On 3 October 1986, while on patrol 680 miles (1,090 km) northeast of Bermuda, K-219 suffered an explosion and fire in a missile tube. The seal in a missile hatch cover failed, allowing seawater to leak into the missile tube and react with residue from the missile's liquid fuel. The Soviet Navy claimed that the leak was caused by a collision with the submarine USS Augusta. Augusta was certainly operating in proximity, but the United States Navy denies any collision. K-219 had previously experienced a similar casualty; one of her missile tubes was already disabled and welded shut, having been permanently sealed after an explosion caused by reaction between seawater leaking into the silo and missile fuel residue.

Location of the incident
The authors of the book Hostile Waters reconstructed the incident from descriptions by the survivors, ships' logs, the official investigations, and participants both ashore and afloat from the Soviet and the American sides. Shortly after 0530 Moscow time, seawater leaking into silo six of K-219 reacted with missile fuel, producing nitric acid. K-219 weapons officer Alexander Petrachkov attempted to cope with this by disengaging the hatch cover and venting the missile tube to the sea. Shortly after 0532, an explosion occurred in silo six. The remains of the RSM-25 rocket and its two warheads were ejected from silo six into the sea.

Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:27:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:27:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Win_88:
Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:
Originally Posted By Win_88:
Nothing on CNN, MSNBC.

On Foxnews


Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday.

The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire.

The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs.




More here

Fox



So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate.


OK.

Like all communist countries during a disaster like this.

Keep the body count low in the press.

Report only about the courage of those involved.

Distract attention from the truth.

Blame somebody else for the accident.


Exactly, I am waiting for them to blame it on a collision with a CIA submarine.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:27:36 AM EDT
What an ugly boat.
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