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Posted: 2/15/2013 5:58:24 AM EDT
WWW.Space.com says Russians hit by 10 ton meteorite, 500 injured. Apparently hit in the Ural Region, southern Russia. NASA says it is not part of asteroid flying by today. Wonder if that is bullhit?
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 5:59:36 AM EDT
No, but it is a Dupe
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:00:38 AM EDT
I heard it was nuclear testing from the Norks

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:03:02 AM EDT
Dupe. Meteor. Didn't hit the ground so not a meteorite
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:04:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Colonel_Angus:
Dupe. Meteor. Didn't hit the ground so not a meteorite


So meteowrong?

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Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:05:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Colonel_Angus:
Dupe. Meteor. Didn't hit the ground so not a meteorite

Parts of it did..
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:09:33 AM EDT
It broke up, but they have identified 1 six meter crater so far.

The video is astonishing, if you put yourself in their position to watch it fall. Looked like the end of their world was approaching.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:10:47 AM EDT
[Russian]Nothing to see, move along![/Russian]
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:11:54 AM EDT
Fortunate this object did not strike the ground and get to be defined as a "meteorite"! As I understand it, it mostly vaporized 20-30 kilometers up in the atmosphere, and there probably will be fragments found on the ground. A solid nickel-iron meteor this size would have hit the surface pretty hard......
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:17:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Seanem44:
No, but it is a Dupe


How is this a "dupe?". It is not about the asteroid, it is about injuries from a meteor that just hit in the Urals.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:20:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pharmd2002:
Fortunate this object did not strike the ground and get to be defined as a "meteorite"! As I understand it, it mostly vaporized 20-30 kilometers up in the atmosphere, and there probably will be fragments found on the ground. A solid nickel-iron meteor this size would have hit the surface pretty hard......
So:
1.) A 'Meteortite' sticks to the sky,
and
2.) A 'Meteormite' hits the ground?


OK, got it.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:28:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:29:08 AM EDT by stfm]
Dupe. Meteor. Didn't hit the ground so not a meteorite
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Meteor strike injures hundreds in central Russia .

Big hole for not hiting ground!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
Originally Posted By Colonel_Angus:
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:35:51 AM EDT
the tinfoil hattery on this event is going jiffy pop.

A number of lurid claims are being made in connection with today's meteor shower over Russia, including obscure reports that the meteor was shot down by Russian air defenses, as well as a claim by controversial Russian leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky that the meteor was in fact a secret US weapon aimed at Russia. - http://youtu.be/tCFARJVsDEI


Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:37:33 AM EDT
For a brief moment, those guys were shitting their pants thinking it was an attack from the Americans, but then they remembered Obama is president and realized it's just a meteor.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:37:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By stfm:
Dupe. Meteor. Didn't hit the ground so not a meteorite





Meteor strike injures hundreds in central Russia .

Big hole for not hiting ground!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
Originally Posted By Colonel_Angus:


there does not have to be an imppact for there to be explosion damage...
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:41:59 AM EDT
Too small by a factor of ~100, and it missed hitting an ocean, so there is no natural selection event.
Damn!
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:46:31 AM EDT
So what happens if something like that gets nailed by a few Patriot missiles?
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:47:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 6:47:51 AM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]

Originally Posted By pharmd2002:
Originally Posted By Seanem44:
No, but it is a Dupe


How is this a "dupe?". It is not about the asteroid, it is about injuries from a meteor that just hit in the Urals.


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1441325_Apparently_this_was_a_meteor.html
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 6:51:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AKengineer:
So what happens if something like that gets nailed by a few Patriot missiles?

Not possible


Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:00:19 AM EDT
Suddenly, the need for thousands of FEMA coffins became horrifyingly obvious.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:00:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 7:13:09 AM EDT by jpittsinger]
Originally Posted By AKengineer:
So what happens if something like that gets nailed by a few Patriot missiles?


Nothing. Anti-missile missiles rarely actually strike the target, they almost always explode very close to the target, throwing debris into the path that disrupts the aerodynamics of the target, or destroys the brain or punches a hole in a fuel tank.

An incoming meteor is dropping faster than incoming ballistic missiles are designed to survive. And there is nothing to "disrupt" on an incoming rock. Also figure that if the meteor is has fallen all the way from the cometary halo, the descent speed built up over decades could be phenomenal. It is easily possible for the meteor to become plasma before the groundstrike. Imagine it as God's own phaser blast. You can't stop plasma with a missile.

Suffice it to say the only sure way is to deflect the incoming rock. Deflection can be accomplished by landing pusher rockets on the 'roid, or if you are bold and luv a show, push it aside with a nuke. DO NOT blast the 'roid with the nuke, or you might get God's own shotgun pattern in the atmosphere, which is not the best outcome.

See why we need a space program?

Edited to add: If conditions were favorable, and you had an orbital laser facility, you could push on a corner of the asteroid with a laser beam, and if you started early enough, deflect the rock. It would be simple to capture enough sunlight for a pretty serious laser cannon. But would the Luddites ever allow a laser cannon in orbit? Even if it had more than one peaceful use? Doubtful.




Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:03:42 AM EDT
If you follow the link on popsci, they have a picture.
Big hole in a factory
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:07:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:

Originally Posted By AKengineer:
So what happens if something like that gets nailed by a few Patriot missiles?

Not possible





Yeah I think it's pretty much: See it....Fuuuck.....BOOOOM!

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:09:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jpittsinger:
Originally Posted By AKengineer:
So what happens if something like that gets nailed by a few Patriot missiles?


Nothing. Anti-missile missiles rarely actually strike the target, they almost always explode very close to the target, throwing debris into the path that disrupts the aerodynamics of the target, or destroys the brain or punches a hole in a fuel tank.

An incoming meteor is dropping faster than incoming ballistic missiles are designed to survive. And there is nothing to "disrupt" on an incoming rock. Also figure that if the meteor is has fallen all the way from the cometary halo, the descent speed built up over decades could be phenomenal. It is easily possible for the meteor to become plasma before the groundstrike. Imagine it as God's own phaser blast. You can't stop plasma with a missile.

Suffice it to say the only sure way is to deflect the incoming rock. Deflection can be accomplished by landing pusher rockets on the 'roid, or if you are bold and luv a show, push it aside with a nuke. DO NOT blast the 'roid with the nuke, or you might get God's own shotgun pattern in the atmosphere, which is not the best outcome.

See why we need a space program?

So even a skin-skin hit with a Patriot is going to result in "fuck your puny missiles I'm a space rock bitches"? Momentum is a killer.

Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:12:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pharmd2002:
Originally Posted By Seanem44:
No, but it is a Dupe


How is this a "dupe?". It is not about the asteroid, it is about injuries from a meteor that just hit in the Urals.


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1441325_Apparently_this_was_a_meteor.html


With videos and everything.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:12:44 AM EDT
Why, just why does Russia get all the luck. Why couldn't that thing falling from the sky hit the White House? Jesus, we're doomed ...................
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:13:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 7:13:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2013 7:13:44 AM EDT by DK-Prof]
dupe - link above
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