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Posted: 9/3/2004 2:44:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 3:15:33 PM EST by Balzac72]
Survivor recounts horror in Russian school
Captors laugh as children, elderly faint
Friday, September 3, 2004 Posted: 5:27 PM EDT (2127 GMT)


An injured boy is rushed away from the siege school Friday.


Chechen MUSLIM rebels are blamed for dozens of attacks in recent years.


BESLAN, Russia (AP) -- Holding up the corpse of a man just shot dead in front of hundreds of hostages at a Russian school, the rebel -- his pockets stuffed with ammunition and grenades -- warned: "If a child utters even a sound, we'll kill another one."

When children fainted from lack of sleep, food and water, their masked and camouflaged captors simply sneered. In the intolerable heat of the gym, adults implored children to drink their own urine.

Hours after escaping alive, a woman who had been taken hostage with her 7-year-old son and her mother spoke of three days of unspeakable horror -- of children so wired with fear they couldn't sleep, of captors coolly threatening to kill off hostages one by one, of a gymnasium so cramped there was hardly room to move.

"We were in complete fear," said Alla Gadieyeva, 24, who spoke to an Associated Press reporter as she lay in a stretcher outside a hospital. "People were praying all the time and those that didn't know how to pray -- we taught them."

The woman told her tale after commandos stormed the school in this southern Russian town, bringing the nation's worst hostage crisis to a head Friday. The carnage left more than 200 people dead and more than 700 people wounded, according to officials. Most of them were women and children.

Children faint, captors laugh
Alla and her mother Irina were in the school courtyard seeing off her son Zaur for his first day of school when they heard sounds like "balloons popping."

She thought the noise was part of school festivities.

It wasn't.

Five rebels suddenly burst into the courtyard, shooting in the air and ordering people to get inside the school. Children, parents, and teachers -- Alla estimated there were about 1,000 in all -- were corralled into a corner on the ground floor and then pushed into the gymnasium.

Alla said children whimpered in fear, and all around there was screaming and crying. The hostages were forced to crouch, their hands folded over their heads.

For the rebels, the first order of business was confiscating cell phones. They smashed the phones and made the following threat: "If we find any mobile phones, we will shoot 20 people all around you."

On Day 1, people got a tiny bit of water to drink, but no food. From Day 2, Alla said, nothing.

When she asked the rebels for water for her mother, they laughed at her.

"My mother was terrified, and I thought she was having a heart attack. When I saw my son, my mother ... go unconscious, so tired, so thirsty, I wanted it all to come to an end," she said.

"When children began to faint, they laughed," Alla said. "They were totally indifferent."

During the ordeal, Zaur became so traumatized that he would flinch whenever someone would touch him, or even brush by him. Like other children, his only spells of sleep were the times he fell unconscious from thirst and exhaustion.

When asked how her son would remember the ordeal, Alla replied: "How can a person ever forget it? Would you ever forget it?"

Bombs hung from ceiling
As Alla spoke under a grove of spruce trees, she had not yet been reunited with her mother or son, although authorities confirmed to her that they were alive.

She recounted how the hostage-takers eventually took off their masks. They had beards, long hair, and spoke with Chechen accents, she said.

When children started to faint from thirst, the adults urged them to urinate. It was so they could drink their own urine, Alla said.

We'll shoot until our guns stop. And when our guns stop, we'll blow up the building.
-- Captor in Russian school

The gymnasium was quickly transformed into an arsenal of explosives -- bombs dangling from the ceiling, set on the floor, strung up on walls. She said they seemed to be homemade, primitive packages containing bolts and nails.

"They're not human beings,"
Alla said. "What they did to us, I can't understand."

On Day 3, early in the afternoon, the explosions erupted, under circumstances that still remain somewhat unclear. What is known is that emergency workers had arrived at the time -- apparently with the militants' permission -- to collect the bodies of those who had been executed. Russian authorities insist they did not plan a raid.



Suddenly, there were blasts inside and outside the gym, Alla said. In the chaos, she couldn't figure out how they were set off. Gunfire followed. As the fight intensified, the rebels betrayed agitation for the first time.

"We'll shoot until our guns stop," a rebel announced to the crowd. "And when our guns stop, we'll blow up the building."

Making an escape
The hostage-takers began pushing people out of the gym and into the basement. That created an opening for the hostages: They began breaking windows and fleeing. Some captives literally started pushing children outside.

Alla said she helped her son and mother out of a window. She didn't manage to get out.


For some reason, a six-year-old boy -- whom she didn't know -- was drawn to Alla. She held him in her arms. He clung to her, she said, "as if he would never let go."



A group of hostages, including Alla and the boy, then made a rush for a set of doors in the gymnasium. As they fled, she noticed the bodies of captives strewn on the floor -- shot by the rebels, it seemed, as they battled Russian security forces who swarmed the area.


Some Russian soldiers appeared as they reached the doors. "At first I didn't believe it," she said. "I thought they were Chechens."



Her doubts soon vanished.

It's OK, the soldiers told her. "You're home now."


As Alla told her tale, townspeople kept coming up to her, asking her about the fate of their loved-ones.

A man, around 20, asked Alla if she knew what had happened to one of the captives, a woman.

She's dead, Alla replied.

The man bit his lip. He nodded.


And then he turned away.




Nuke Chechnya. Make it a moot issue.
religion of peace:

Religion of peace:

Religion of peace:


Mom isn't coming home anymore, the religion of peace took her away.


A video image shows anxious women checking the identification of a dead child being carried on a stretcher

Religion of peace:

Religion of peace:

Religion of peace:



Bodies of schoolchildren and hostages killed in a school seizure seen in a hospital morgue in Beslan, North Ossetia, Friday, Sept. 3, 2004.
Religion of peace:

Religion of Peace:

Religion of Peace:

Religion of Peace:

Religion of Peace:

Religion of Peace:



May God bless them and hold the victims close for eternity. May the victims families take solice in knowing that their sons, daughters and wives will sit on the right hand of our Father away from the evils of this world.






Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:47:00 PM EST
I think Nuke qualifies as a K*** em A** statement.
I think I hear a Lock
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:47:49 PM EST
.

"They're not human beings,"

No. They're insects.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:48:19 PM EST
Muslims.

Any questions about what needs to be done?

CMOS
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:48:24 PM EST
Silence you dog.

Islam is our friend.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:49:23 PM EST
Go to DU.
Read their reactions to this very same story...


...is that any different from what we've done by bombing Afghan and Iraqi civilians, including women and children?

How much hate do you think that will generate toward Americans over the next several generations?

Do you hope for the same demise to overtake those that ordered the attacks on the Afghan and Iraqi civilians, and continue to do so to this very day?

By the way, I hold the very same people responsible for the dead and mangled American troops who were ordered into the Middle East under false pretenses.

And yes, I also have children...one of whom may be drafted when Congress passes pending legislation authorizing the draft early next year.

Just curious, but what do you suppose made those terrorists in Russia do what they did? Do you think it just happened out of thin air? What do you think the Russians have been doing to the families and friends of the terrorists?




Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:49:43 PM EST
Nuke Chechnya. Make it a moot issue.

Thats a start
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:50:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 2:51:46 PM EST by kill-9]
Political correctness and tolerance for other cultures demand that this thread be locked.

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Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:51:17 PM EST
www.LOCK.com
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:51:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:52:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Go to DU.
Read their reactions to this very same story...


...is that any different from what we've done by bombing Afghan and Iraqi civilians, including women and children?

How much hate do you think that will generate toward Americans over the next several generations?

Do you hope for the same demise to overtake those that ordered the attacks on the Afghan and Iraqi civilians, and continue to do so to this very day?

By the way, I hold the very same people responsible for the dead and mangled American troops who were ordered into the Middle East under false pretenses.

And yes, I also have children...one of whom may be drafted when Congress passes pending legislation authorizing the draft early next year.

Just curious, but what do you suppose made those terrorists in Russia do what they did? Do you think it just happened out of thin air? What do you think the Russians have been doing to the families and friends of the terrorists?







I've had quite enough of DUng now.

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Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:53:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 2:54:04 PM EST by The_Neutral_Observer]
Everyone knows The Neutral Observer's views on the subject.

EDIT: They aren't neutral.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:55:15 PM EST
This pisses me off. I hope they find the ones that got away and bring a few of those, hard, pipe hittin' KGB interrogators out of retirement to go to work on those sons of bitches.
I'll volunteer the first pair of pliers and acetylene tank.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:55:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com




Originally Posted By kill-9:
Political correctness and tolerance for other cultures demand that this thread be locked.

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The truth is an absolute defense. I rest my case on this story being true and that they are in fact animals. Would YOU be able to harm children and take pleasure in their torture? Do you argue that they are nothing more than animals? Take a position on this, I can use a punching bag.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:56:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Balzac72:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com




Originally Posted By kill-9:
Political correctness and tolerance for other cultures demand that this thread be locked.

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The truth is an absolute defense. I rest my case on this story being true and that they are in fact animals. Would YOU be able to harm children and take pleasure in their torture? Do you argue that they are nothing more than animals? Take a position on this, I can use a punching bag.




they words in the very last line of your post above resulted in many threads being locked today
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:57:44 PM EST
only thing worse than what these goatfuckers did is the apologists in the US that will be defending them in the coming days
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 2:59:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com



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Fucking child killers, I don't care if Russia removes them from the face of the earth. Glad to see as many dead Chechan 'freedom fighters' as the Ruskies can manage to create.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:01:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 3:01:44 PM EST by ar50troll]

Originally Posted By Grunteled:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com



BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB



Fucking child killers, I don't care if Russia removes them from the face of the earth. Glad to see as many dead Chechan 'freedom fighters' as the Ruskies can manage to create.



Shit I can't win either way. I speak my mind, I get locked. I try to follow the board code and I get flamed. AND I'M THE ONE WITH TROLL IN MY NAME
BTW I just saved a ton of money on my insurance by switching to Geico.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:02:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 3:07:03 PM EST by MiG-21]

Originally Posted By Grunteled:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com



BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB



Fucking child killers, I don't care if Russia removes them from the face of the earth. Glad to see as many dead Chechan 'freedom fighters' as the Ruskies can manage to create.



And i wish I could help them send some of these insects straight to hell. Oh, BTW, if my wanting to kill those who deliberately target children offends anyone, THAT'S JUST TOO FUCKING BAD!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:03:52 PM EST
I'm afraid my true feelings on this issue would result in me being banned or at the least, this thread being locked. I'll not create any problems on this board. So I will just end by saying I am sick to death of the PC'ness surrounding the "religion of peace". They are beasts. And it's about time they are dealt with finally and decisively. That's all I'm gonna say.

Bring on Operation Crusades II!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:05:58 PM EST

"They're not human beings,"



KTA

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:06:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 3:06:45 PM EST by kill-9]

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I am sick to death of the PC'ness surrounding the "religion of peace".



+1
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:07:40 PM EST
There are no words to describe what these animals have done, and will continue to do. Fury doesn't even begin to cover what I feel right now... I envy the russian soldiers who will shortly be exacting revenge on these subhuman fanatics.

Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:08:01 PM EST
MORE PICS POSTED, SEE ORIGINAL POST


I'm in fucking meltdown right now. I gotta go away for a bit. I'm seeing familiar faces.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:08:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Balzac72:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
www.LOCK.com




Originally Posted By kill-9:
Political correctness and tolerance for other cultures demand that this thread be locked.

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The truth is an absolute defense. I rest my case on this story being true and that they are in fact animals. Would YOU be able to harm children and take pleasure in their torture? Do you argue that they are nothing more than animals? Take a position on this, I can use a punching bag.





Face east and punch away. I'll save a cat before I save one of these fuckers.


SGatr15
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:09:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunbert:
There are no words to describe what these animals have done, and will continue to do. Fury doesn't even begin to cover what I feel right now... I envy the russian soldiers who will shortly be exacting revenge on these subhuman fanatics.




And there gonna flow with the whoop ass. They don't have political correctness there. It's gonna be messy. But very neccesary.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:11:44 PM EST
Let me be clear. I do not advocate the killing of anyone based solely on thier religion. I do however strongly advocate the destruction of any military or quasi-military organization or supporters there of who take school children and women hostage and murder them. I do not care what weapon or what level of force is used to accomplish that. They are evil, I hope every one of them involved in the execution, planning, or support of this incident is killed. If that gets me in trouble... so be it. The rage I feel towards the animals that did this is beyond words.

Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:18:10 PM EST
I cannot imagine the depth of evil these "people" possess. To take pleasure in torturing children, laughing at their suffering. Sickening.

Animals indeed.

Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:26:44 PM EST

Muslims AS A WHOLE are subhuman trash and Mohamad was Satan.
Fuck all this PC crap, If we cant speak our minds then what the hell are we doing here ?
Ban me if you want but I say Muslims are not my equals but my subhuman demonic enemy.
I say: Cry havoc and loose the dogs of war!
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:27:42 PM EST
If the Islamists are attempting to create a US-Russian alliance against them they are succeeding. They sow the seeds of their own demise and the rest of the world will eventually do what it has to other such nations in the past. My feeling is that this event is only the beginning of a wider scale war of the West aganist Islam. In the end they will be utterly destroyed.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:27:54 PM EST
inatree, tell us how you realy feel.

Whatever latent sympathy I had for the Chechens just evaporated.

nuke them all and shoot them in the dark
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:30:43 PM EST
A word to the Russians "Operate" with Extreme Prejudice.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 3:30:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 3:30:55 PM EST by Aimless]
thread locked, it'll be accounts next the way this weekend is starting out
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