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Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:03:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"
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Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"
Open access to the Med for the Black Sea Fleet.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:03:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.
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Care to share?
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:04:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bosifus:
Interesting timing regardless of the reasons stated.
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Yup!
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:04:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"
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Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"




LOL

Nothing...

It's all Bullshit to influence our election...





Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:04:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:

As a result of Obama's War on Coal we have no mineshafts.
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We can't let them have a mineshaft gap!!
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:05:27 AM EDT
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The thing that is interesting is that the Chinese have also had duplicate moves. Look at North Korea, Iran, and Cuba. If their states of readiness increase as well (and it has), watch out.


IF SHTF, it will start in either Iran or North Korea. Or, these powers will take advantage of the other wars (Russia in Europe, China wrecking havoc on Japan and Taiwan). Imagine the North Korean Army backed up by Chinese and Russian Air support and logistics. A ground force with junk now becomes a powerful force with the S.Korean stuff knocked out by Chinese and Russian air and cyber power.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:06:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SPAS-12:
Originally Posted By bob1946:
Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Has anyone checked up on the status of the Russian wheat harvest?


Highest in 8 years.



http://www.world-grain.com/articles/news_home/World_Grain_News/2016/09/Russia_anticipates_record_whea.aspx?ID=%7BEEFE7B0C-603D-482D-9F7C-249B2CC4E3A7%7D&cck=1
You guys are doing this wrong.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:07:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Russia is going broke, and needs the money back in country.
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Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:09:27 AM EDT
OMG. Is it time to bring back 80s music and cinema?
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:09:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Thunder900:
The thing that is interesting is that the Chinese have also had duplicate moves. Look at North Korea, Iran, and Cuba. If their states of readiness increase as well (and it has), watch out.
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Really? I see shitloads of chinese students every day. They must not have gotten the memo.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:09:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Goodn:



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?
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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?

Russia always feels cornered.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:10:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcgredo:


It's more likely Vlad is thinking about getting the Soviet band back together: snag Ukraine and the Baltics. If he pulls it off he'll wreck NATO as a going concern.
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Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?


It's more likely Vlad is thinking about getting the Soviet band back together: snag Ukraine and the Baltics. If he pulls it off he'll wreck NATO as a going concern.



Thinking about?

He's been actively doing it since the Bush admin.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:11:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Russia always feels cornered.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?

Russia always feels cornered.

Yep. Being drunk all the time can lead to poor choices and paranoia. Much like GD
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:14:37 AM EDT
Because we are. We're always heading to way with someone, but hopefully not with the Ruskies. War with nuclear powers is not gonna be fun. Lets take on Hawaii, since they gave us Oclusterfuck.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:15:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

Really? I see shitloads of chinese students every day. They must not have gotten the memo.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By Thunder900:
The thing that is interesting is that the Chinese have also had duplicate moves. Look at North Korea, Iran, and Cuba. If their states of readiness increase as well (and it has), watch out.

Really? I see shitloads of chinese students every day. They must not have gotten the memo.



That is not the issue he is talking about necessarily.

China is trying to land grab, there being expansionist and belligerent in the east. NK, Chinas puppet is being more belligerent and vocal than normal, In the west Russia is trying to recover influence with former bloc countries and being increasingly belligerent with the west. In the mid east, Iran is aligning with Russia and NK and becoming increasingly belligerent.

If you look at the big picture, It is not pretty.

And we have idiots in Washington playing with triangle shaped crayons so they don't roll of of their desks. They have less diplomacy skills than a retarded child in a wheelchair.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:16:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Russia always feels cornered.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?

Russia always feels cornered.



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:18:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Goodn:



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.
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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?

Russia always feels cornered.



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.

You mean Napoleon? Or Hitler?

No, the perception of victimization is integral to their culture.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:19:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"
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Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"
It's extremely important. Syria and Iran have to fall and the well laid out plans are way far behind...mainly due to the Russians. The CIA and Mossad probably didn't weigh Russia in the equation ..or at least, not enough.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:22:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

You mean Napoleon? Or Hitler?

No, the perception of victimization is integral to their culture.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Goodn:



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.

You mean Napoleon? Or Hitler?

No, the perception of victimization is integral to their culture.

Well yeah, keeping the perception of victimization of their people keeps their citizens aligned with their government. And in most cases keeps them fired up and ready to do what the govt wants. Commie govts tend to do this.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:25:26 AM EDT
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The chess pieces have been moving into place in the past week:

https://twitter.com/DWSIntel

http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=5


Is starting a war with Russia the globalists' plan to stop Trump?
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:25:41 AM EDT
I would not want war with Russia.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:26:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SPAS-12:


Care to share?
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....



Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:28:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Foxxz:


Yes

https://youtu.be/Q8I1ImzoXvU
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Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Has anyone checked up on the status of the Russian wheat harvest?


Yes

https://youtu.be/Q8I1ImzoXvU

That was strangely soothing.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:28:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Goodn:

Well yeah, keeping the perception of victimization of their people keeps their citizens aligned with their government. And in most cases keeps them fired up and ready to do what the govt wants. Commie govts tend to do this.
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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Goodn:



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.

You mean Napoleon? Or Hitler?

No, the perception of victimization is integral to their culture.

Well yeah, keeping the perception of victimization of their people keeps their citizens aligned with their government. And in most cases keeps them fired up and ready to do what the govt wants. Commie govts tend to do this.

They've been doing it since before they were communist.

The Soviet expression of communism was very much a Russian expression of their own culture.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:30:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.
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Yup, get back to me when an embassy closes up shop and bugs out.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Originally Posted By SPAS-12:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.



This has been going on for a couple months. I have been watching EC and RC135s and shit loads of other .mil AC in the air lately.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:33:16 AM EDT
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That was strangely soothing.
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Originally Posted By Foxxz:
Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Has anyone checked up on the status of the Russian wheat harvest?


Yes

https://youtu.be/Q8I1ImzoXvU

That was strangely soothing.



Much like watching Hillary voters, but more humorous.

Both make you say WTF!?
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:35:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
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Originally Posted By SPAS-12:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.


Had a 4 engine bird, looked like a 747 but could have been a 707 frame, pass over my property from the NW to the SE around 1830c. It was unusual enough for me to notice and point it out to the wife. Usually the heavy stuff over me heads due south or east west.
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@chargin_handle alot of that would be normal during an exercise, if it was a few circumstances or one at a time. I'm guessing your concern and a proper one, is all of them at once. It also could be for show of force. To me, the risk of the latter being seen as an aggresive move would not justify the reward of saying look what we can do.
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Maybe. But I am leaning toward, They are feeling cornered by the west. UK called Russia "A pariah on the world", US or more namely Obama is actively accusing Russia of sabotaging the elections, The US called for war crimes investigations of Moscow followed by Frances Holland doing the same.

And on the flip side, Russia is actively trying to bring former bloc countries back under their influence and re-acquiring former Soviet bases.
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Originally Posted By WGPKlaus:
Or the Russians have info about one of the assholes of the world (Nork's/Iranians/Take your pick) doing something bad here in America and of course that would spark off some bad juju???



Maybe. But I am leaning toward, They are feeling cornered by the west. UK called Russia "A pariah on the world", US or more namely Obama is actively accusing Russia of sabotaging the elections, The US called for war crimes investigations of Moscow followed by Frances Holland doing the same.

And on the flip side, Russia is actively trying to bring former bloc countries back under their influence and re-acquiring former Soviet bases.

This seems to be my take as well. The low price of oil and hydrocarbons is really hitting their bottom line and they aren't the USSR of old. Putin sees that a lot of western countries are clearly going against Russia, and if hilldog gets in office she has made no qualms about how she feels about Russia and Putin. Add in the fact that the US is 20 trillion in debt and a war would certainly get peoples minds towards nationalism. Hillary is the type of person that would have no problem doing that, she has no concern or care for us regular folk.
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Hammer and Sickles
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As a result of Obama's War on Coal we have no mineshafts.

We throwing hammers or wrenches down them?


Hammer and Sickles


Thank you for correcting that post.

Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:42:05 AM EDT
So is it time to yell WOLVERINES yet, or not?

I don't want to miss it, make sure to give me a heads up when it's time
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:46:54 AM EDT
Obama isn't helping.

GREENSBORO, N.C. — President Obama is weighing a “proportional” response to Russia’s efforts to interfere with this fall’s election campaign through hacking, the White House announced Tuesday.

“The president has talked before about the significant capabilities that the U.S. government has to both defend our systems in the United States but also carry out offensive operations in other countries,” Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, told reporters traveling with Mr. Obama on Air Force One to Greensboro, where he was holding a town hall-style meeting with students and campaigning for Hillary Clinton.

“There are a range of responses that are available to the president, and he will consider a response that is proportional,” Mr. Earnest said.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/obama-considers-%e2%80%98proportional%e2%80%99-response-to-russian-hacking-in-us-election/ar-BBxjxVj?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE12DHP
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https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
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Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.

Any AF plane on any real mission isn't going to be squaking with ATSB on.
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https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
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Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.


And E-4Bs have been active, for the first time since 9/11.

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Had a 4 engine bird, looked like a 747 but could have been a 707 frame, pass over my property from the NW to the SE around 1830c. It was unusual enough for me to notice and point it out to the wife. Usually the heavy stuff over me heads due south or east west.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.


Had a 4 engine bird, looked like a 747 but could have been a 707 frame, pass over my property from the NW to the SE around 1830c. It was unusual enough for me to notice and point it out to the wife. Usually the heavy stuff over me heads due south or east west.
There are a shit ton of KC-135's in Kansas and Nebraska. Not usual.
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This seems to be my take as well. The low price of oil and hydrocarbons is really hitting their bottom line and they aren't the USSR of old. Putin sees that a lot of western countries are clearly going against Russia, and if hilldog gets in office she has made no qualms about how she feels about Russia and Putin. Add in the fact that the US is 20 trillion in debt and a war would certainly get peoples minds towards nationalism. Hillary is the type of person that would have no problem doing that, she has no concern or care for us regular folk.
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Or the Russians have info about one of the assholes of the world (Nork's/Iranians/Take your pick) doing something bad here in America and of course that would spark off some bad juju???



Maybe. But I am leaning toward, They are feeling cornered by the west. UK called Russia "A pariah on the world", US or more namely Obama is actively accusing Russia of sabotaging the elections, The US called for war crimes investigations of Moscow followed by Frances Holland doing the same.

And on the flip side, Russia is actively trying to bring former bloc countries back under their influence and re-acquiring former Soviet bases.

This seems to be my take as well. The low price of oil and hydrocarbons is really hitting their bottom line and they aren't the USSR of old. Putin sees that a lot of western countries are clearly going against Russia, and if hilldog gets in office she has made no qualms about how she feels about Russia and Putin. Add in the fact that the US is 20 trillion in debt and a war would certainly get peoples minds towards nationalism. Hillary is the type of person that would have no problem doing that, she has no concern or care for us regular folk.


Yes, Donald Trump is our best bet to avoid hostilities with Russia and to solve our foreign policy problems. Hillary Clinton will want to go into Syria.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 12:50:42 AM EDT
The derp is strong in here tonight.
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On what basis? "Our" fuckery in Syria?
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More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.
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Surprisingly, there's a lot of conspiracy theorists on this site...
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More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.
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On what basis? "Our" fuckery in Syria?

More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.
I was in moscow 50 days ago. They failed to mention the war to me.
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More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.
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Originally Posted By evo462:
On what basis? "Our" fuckery in Syria?

More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.


I doubt they'll be used in a convential fashion. Used yes i'll agree, but not by a nation.
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https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.



Apparently there are Russian and Chinese craft in the Med right now.
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I was in moscow 50 days ago. They failed to mention the war to me.
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Originally Posted By hvla:
Originally Posted By evo462:
On what basis? "Our" fuckery in Syria?

More like our fuckery EVERYWHERE. Anyone who thinks we arent already at war with russia has their head up their ass.

Im 36. I am confident we will see nuclear weapons used in my lifetime, probably inside of a decade.
I was in moscow 50 days ago. They failed to mention the war to me.

Defacto. Just like it has been for my entire life.
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Originally Posted By Veccio:

This seems to be my take as well. The low price of oil and hydrocarbons is really hitting their bottom line and they aren't the USSR of old. Putin sees that a lot of western countries are clearly going against Russia, and if hilldog gets in office she has made no qualms about how she feels about Russia and Putin. Add in the fact that the US is 20 trillion in debt and a war would certainly get peoples minds towards nationalism. Hillary is the type of person that would have no problem doing that, she has no concern or care for us regular folk.
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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By WGPKlaus:
Or the Russians have info about one of the assholes of the world (Nork's/Iranians/Take your pick) doing something bad here in America and of course that would spark off some bad juju???



Maybe. But I am leaning toward, They are feeling cornered by the west. UK called Russia "A pariah on the world", US or more namely Obama is actively accusing Russia of sabotaging the elections, The US called for war crimes investigations of Moscow followed by Frances Holland doing the same.

And on the flip side, Russia is actively trying to bring former bloc countries back under their influence and re-acquiring former Soviet bases.

This seems to be my take as well. The low price of oil and hydrocarbons is really hitting their bottom line and they aren't the USSR of old. Putin sees that a lot of western countries are clearly going against Russia, and if hilldog gets in office she has made no qualms about how she feels about Russia and Putin. Add in the fact that the US is 20 trillion in debt and a war would certainly get peoples minds towards nationalism. Hillary is the type of person that would have no problem doing that, she has no concern or care for us regular folk.


And under Trump Putin knows the gig is up as well. Trump will not put up with Putin's crap. He may welcome the help in Syria, but will NOT allow Putin to have Ukraine, or allow Russia to continue to expand. Same goes for China.
The Chinese are also still pissed off at the Clintons for allowing more independence for Taiwan and for bombing their embassy.
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Any AF plane on any real mission isn't going to be squaking with ATSB on.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Originally Posted By SPAS-12:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.


Any AF plane on any real mission isn't going to be squaking with ATSB on.


They squawk when they are airborne over the CONUS or friendly nations, at least when they aren't using military air space. You usually don't see fighters and bombers because they mainly use military training areas. But you definitely see transports, tankers, command and VIP aircraft. I don't imagine they would go broadcasting themselves to the world when near potentially hostile air space. But you can still get a lot of info from what you don't see. Typically there are only a handful of tankers airborne over the CONUS at any given time. When you see as many as there were airborne a bit earlier, they are up for a reason. And with all of the other stuff going on simultaneously, it certainly bears watching. It was most likely just an exercise or a show of force. But it could also be a response triggered by something that is going on abroad. Regardless of the circumstances, even a fool can see that tensions between the U.S. and Russia are more than just a little elevated at the moment. And relations are worsening by the day.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 1:03:59 AM EDT
Wouldn't you call your children home if the next CiC was an unstable and inept piece of shit? Best case scenario she kicks off a lot of domestic civil disturbance.
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Another cold war maybe.
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Sounds more like a safety thing. Even during the cold war, the Soviets studied abroad
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And E-4Bs have been active, for the first time since 9/11.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/0/9/1763909.jpg?v=v40
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Folks, there's enough shit going on around the world right this minute to make your skin crawl. And that is just by using open source data. There is a lot of activity going on as we speak, in a number of different locations. And Russians calling their children to return home to the motherland is at the bottom of the list of my concerns at the moment.


Care to share?


https://sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

https://www.rt.com/politics/362339-russia-tests-war-time-state/

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-us-confrontation-2016-10

Beyond those things which have all been reported today, there is extremely unusual (and at times heavy) military movement going on. I sat here a couple hours ago on a flight tracking website and watched as more than 20 tanker aircraft were airborne over the CONUS at the same time, with many of them heading N into Canada. That is highly unusual, especially at night and indicative possibly of supporting bomber sorties over the North Pole. There is also a ton of shit in the eastern Med right now, various navies, to include ours, the Russians, and various other powers, all in close proximity to each other. The same applies in Syria itself. One little slip up, one miscalculation, and SHTF. We also have a command ship sitting in the Black Sea right now, which is an unusual place for such a vessel to be. Heavy fighting has resumed in eastern Ukraine. The Russians have moved nuclear capable Iskander missiles into Kaliningrad. Then there is stuff like this.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuiHyWqWIAAbjhl.jpg:large

Anyone familiar with what that aircraft does would know what it is doing in that region. I would expect to hear something very soon about provoctive Russian ICBM tests.

I also monitor HF comms as a hobby and there was a veritable shit-ton of emergency action messages going out this evening in rapid sequence, and most of them had the same number of characters per message, which indicates this may have been a high priority message they wanted to make sure everyone received. There have also been usually high numbers of strategic aircraft airborne at any given time over the US. Earlier this evening there was something like 6 E-6B Mercury TACAMO aircraft airborne over the CONUS at the same time. There are only 16 of those aircraft in the inventory. The E-6B serves a dual purpose....transmitting messages to nuclear submarines at sea, as well as serving the role of the airborne command post....the job formerly handled by the EC-135 Looking Glass.

There's just lots of weird and unusual shit going on right now and I think tensions are far higher than most people realize. These are dangerous times.


And E-4Bs have been active, for the first time since 9/11.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/0/9/1763909.jpg?v=v40


What do you mean by "active?"
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True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.
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You gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

When the little yipper has rabies, all he has to do is break skin.
My question is, "Just what the fuck is in Syria that is that important that they will be willing to accept a nuclear exchange over it?"



Russia Is feeling cornered. Don't joke around too much about it. What does a cornered dog do when it is afraid for its life/safety?

Russia always feels cornered.



True, but usually it is due to their own propaganda. Not due to a leader of another country. much less multiple leaders of countries.

Lick their butt and chew hemorrhoids?
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