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Posted: 11/1/2009 7:40:33 AM EST
Russia 'simulates' nuclear attack on Poland
Russia has provoked outrage in Poland by simulating an air and sea attack on the country during military exercises.

By Matthew Day in Warsaw
Published: 4:37PM GMT 01 Nov 2009

The armed forces are said to have carried out "war games" in which nuclear missiles were fired and troops practised an amphibious landing on the country's coast.
Documents obtained by Wprost, one of Poland's leading news magazines, said the exercise was carried out in conjunction with soldiers from Belarus.

The manoeuvres are thought to have been held in September and involved about 13,000 Russian and Belarusian troops.
Poland, which has strained relations with both countries, was cast as the "potential aggressor".

The documents state the exercises, code-named "West", were officially classified as "defensive" but many of the operations appeared to have an offensive nature.
The Russian air force practised using weapons from its nuclear arsenal, while in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, which neighbours Poland, Red Army forces stormed a "Polish" beach and attacked a gas pipeline.
The operation also involved the simulated suppression of an uprising by a national minority in Belarus – the country has a significant Polish population which has a strained relationship with authoritarian government of Belarus.
Karol Karski, an MP from Poland's Law and Justice, is to table parliamentary questions on Russia's war games and has protested to the European Commission.

His colleague, Marek Opiola MP, said: "It's an attempt to put us in our place. Don't forget all this happened on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland."
Ordinary Poles were outraged by news of the exercise and demanded a firm response fro the government.

One man, identified only as Ted, told Polskie Radio: "Russia has laid bare its real intentions with respect to Poland. Every Pole most now get of the off the fence and be counted as a patriot or a traitor."
Donald Tusk, Poland's prime minister, has tried to build a pragmatic relationship with the Kremlin despite widespread and vocal calls in Poland for him to cool ties with Moscow.
After spending 40 years under Soviet domination few in Poland trust Russia, and many Poles have become increasingly wary of a country they consider as possessing a neo-imperialistic agenda.
Bogdan Klich, Poland’s defence minister, said: “It is a demonstration of strength. We are monitoring the exercises to see what has been planned.

Wladyslaw Stasiak, chief of President Lech Kaczynski’s office, and a former head of Poland’s National Security Council, added: “We didn’t like the appearance of the exercises and the name harked back to the days of the Warsaw Pact.”
The Russian troop exercises will come as an unwelcome sight to the states nestling on Russia’s western border who have deep-rooted anxieties over any Russian show of strength.

With a resurgent Moscow now more willing to flex its muscles, Central and Eastern Europeans have warned of Russia adopting a neo-imperialistic attitude to an area of the world it still regards as its sphere of influence.
In July, the region’s most famed and influential political figures, including Lech Walesa and Vaclav Havel, wrote an open letter Barack Obama warning him that Russia “is back as a revisionist power pursuing a 19th-century agenda with 21st-century tactics and methods.”
Moscow and Minsk have insisted that Operation West was to help "ensure the strategic stability in the East European region".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/6480227/Russia-simulates-nuclear-attack-on-Poland.html
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:43:55 AM EST
georgia
poland
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:44:17 AM EST
How's that hope and change working out for Poland?
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:44:49 AM EST
what they've omitted is that the Germans also conducted a similar attack sans nuclear arms from the opposite side of Poland......
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:44:50 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:49:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Dear Russia,

Let me give you some sage advice.

Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier.

Sincerely,

Heavy Metal





VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years


Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:50:24 AM EST
Most nation-states have plans for conventional or non-conventional warfare upon neighboring states or other perceived threats in regional or trans-regional concerns.

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

Thanks vito113 for clearing this up for us.











Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:51:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By Nimrod1193:
How's that hope and change working out for Poland?


Poland doesn't like Obama, but the still love Reagan. They still name roads and schools after him, and if I'm not mistaken have a statue.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:54:52 AM EST


Fuck Russia.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 7:54:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2009 8:01:17 AM EST by orangelo]
Poland may as well just hand over the govt to the Russians again and cut their losses. We don't have their back. We got no one's back. Despite our brave servicemen/women, the USA is the biggest pussy in the world because the commander-in-chief is the biggest pussy in the world. The NATO alliance won't stick together either, they can't even cooperate to hunt down bin laden.

Poland is fukt.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:00:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Dear Russia,

Let me give you some sage advice.

Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier.

Sincerely,

Heavy Metal



http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg




VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years




We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:08:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:11:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By orangelo:
Poland may as well just hand over the govt to the Russians again and cut their losses. We don't have their back. We got no one's back. Despite our brave servicemen/women, the USA is the biggest pussy in the world because the commander-in-chief is the biggest pussy in the world. The NATO alliance won't stick together either, they can't even cooperate to hunt down bin laden.

Poland is fukt.


Yup…


Moscow is just reminding Poland that Western talk is cheap, but the Moscow Military District is very real and parked next door kicking it's heels.


"It's an attempt to put us in our place. Don't forget all this happened on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland."
Marek Opiola, Polish MP
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:11:15 AM EST

[/quote]

We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck.[/quote]





I have a feeling if russia and china ever really went at it, when you got up from suspended animation you would feel very very alone....the scenery would suck too. When tose two have their dick measuring contest, they will not stop on their own.

Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:15:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Originally Posted By fr4th0:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Dear Russia,

Let me give you some sage advice.

Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier.

Sincerely,

Heavy Metal



http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg




VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years




We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck.



Russia is the one teetering on becoming a third world country.


Is that so?

Expanding economy and a huge balance of trade surplus based on oil, gas, minerals and other commodity exports… Yup, they're going down the pan as we speak.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:18:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2009 8:21:46 AM EST by HeavyMetal]
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:19:14 AM EST
Russia and China have really been feeling their oats lately.

And why not, the U.S.A. ain't in any position to oppose them.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:22:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Don't mistake one good day of weather for a long term trend. If Russia doesn't pull its head out of its ass, it is history.

Demographics is destiny.gger of the strong.

[/quote]




Ah, the old 'demographics will destroy Russia' argument…

Well maybe in 50-100 years, but in the meantime…

Russian Defence Spending Soars…
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:25:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2009 8:44:24 AM EST by HeavyMetal]
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:29:44 AM EST
as stated in the memo....they now need to analyze this war game and start planning for it or around parts of it...dont sit around and bitch....obvious they want to use nukes, and take out resources
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:29:53 AM EST
Why is simulated in quotes? Are you implying that Russia actually nuked Poland?
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:35:30 AM EST
Thanks Obama for abandoning Poland. You see how well "appeasement" works.

You'd think people would learn from past history..
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 8:46:15 AM EST
13,000 troop Joint Op?

Was that the entire Combined Armies of Russia and Belarus or just the sober ones?
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 9:28:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.

Link Posted: 11/1/2009 9:51:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 10:20:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.

Link Posted: 11/1/2009 10:42:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.



That's bottom line now in Europe.

If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one.

There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years.

The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents.

I like the new avatar BTW.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 10:46:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.




Poland was by the side of the US from the start in the WOT.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 11:42:04 AM EST
Putin is like a billionaire James Bond. You know how when you watch a movie, and you feel guilty for rooting for the bad guy?
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 11:46:19 AM EST
I remember when I said something along the lines of "fuck Russia" (not those words, but that was the point) in one of my college classes. The teacher told me that I have a biased view against Russia because of US propaganda films that were used during the cold war.

When Russia pulls this shit, it only makes me hate them more.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 11:51:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.


To be fair that's because Russia has Europe by the natural gas balls.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 11:59:36 AM EST
If we had a President with any cojones, now would be a good time to announce our intentions to install that missle defense network in Poland, and build a base there........alas, we dont have anyone in office except The Joker
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 12:01:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Dear Russia,

Let me give you some sage advice.

Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier.

Sincerely,

Heavy Metal



http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg

VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years




He never left.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 12:55:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.


To be fair that's because Russia has Europe by the natural gas balls.


Exactly, and that dependence is only going to get greater…
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 1:07:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By nick1983:
Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By lostnswv:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.



That's bottom line now in Europe.

If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one.

There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years.

The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents.

I like the new avatar BTW.


I bet the EUroweenies will love us again when the Russians are kicking up their heels in Berlin once more.


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Link Posted: 11/1/2009 2:13:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By hobbsar:
Russia and China have really been feeling their oats lately.

And why not, the U.S.A. ain't in any position to oppose them.


China feels its oats may be bad for us, but it could be really bad for Russia. I really don't know why it seems like Russia doesn't notice that but would rather fuck around in Eastern Europe. Pining for the old days I guess.

China would probably invade Siberia long before they started a shooting war with us. We BUY their shit in huge amounts. You don't starts wars that aren't in your economic interest (or at least you shouldn't). Why fight us when they can, well, own us anyway
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 3:27:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By epnurse:
Originally Posted By nick1983:
Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By lostnswv:

Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.



That's bottom line now in Europe.

If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one.

There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years.

The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents.

I like the new avatar BTW.


I bet the EUroweenies will love us again when the Russians are kicking up their heels in Berlin once more.


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Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, was a member of the Communist Party in the old East Germany before the wall came down, she's also a fluent Russian speaker.
Link Posted: 11/1/2009 3:31:31 PM EST

Link Posted: 11/1/2009 4:13:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By AKSig:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/AKSig/fuckyou.jpg

Poland was by the side of the US from the start in the WOT.


Right back at you.

The Poles have my sympathies, same as the rest of the old Eastern Block. I am addressing the Western Europeans fucktards who always piss and moan about the US. The ones that protested our mil policies when Reagan was telling the Commie Fossils from the CCCP to get bent.

Maybe this time when the Russian Bear get ready to rape them, and Obama has nothing but apologies for US arrogance, they will remember the good old days when that senile actor was around or maybe the Texas cowboy. They will probably be HOPING for a CHANGE in a few years.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:31:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By nick1983:

I like the new avatar BTW.


I'm on the inside of the tent pissing out now.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:35:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.


This/ thread complete thanks for playing.........................
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 3:48:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.





The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked.


This/ thread complete thanks for playing.........................


People said the same thing about the US in the early 1970s...the Arabs would dictate US policy, end of US hegamony, etc.

Diversification FTW.

The problem the Russians will have is keeping from pushing their advantage, like the Arabs did in the early 1970s. After Yom Kippur, the Arabs discovered that 1) Golden Geese can be choked to death 2) Leverage works both ways and 3) Oil is fungible. While the Russians will maintain significant competitive advantage, its far from absolute.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 4:14:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By AKSig:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province.




You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference.

The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president.


Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated?

And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia.



I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get.


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/AKSig/fuckyou.jpg

Poland was by the side of the US from the start in the WOT.


Right back at you.

The Poles have my sympathies, same as the rest of the old Eastern Block. I am addressing the Western Europeans fucktards who always piss and moan about the US. The ones that protested our mil policies when Reagan was telling the Commie Fossils from the CCCP to get bent.

Maybe this time when the Russian Bear get ready to rape them, and Obama has nothing but apologies for US arrogance, they will remember the good old days when that senile actor was around or maybe the Texas cowboy. They will probably be HOPING for a CHANGE in a few years.



Well said m8...
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