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Posted: 9/9/2013 8:42:06 AM EDT

In a surprise move, Russia promised Monday to push its ally Syria to
place its chemical weapons under international control and then
dismantle them quickly to avert U.S. strikes.




The announcement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov came a few
hours after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said that Syrian
President Bashar Assad could resolve the crisis surrounding the alleged
use of chemical weapons by his forces by surrendering control of "every
single bit" of his arsenal to the international community by the end of
the week.



MOSCOW — Syria's foreign minister says his country welcomes Russia's
proposal for it to place its chemical weapons under international
control and then dismantle them quickly to avert U.S. strikes.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/russia-syria-chemical-weapons-international-control_n_3893951.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D371567



Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:44:20 AM EDT

I can hear Kerry getting yelled at by Obummer all the way across the Potomac.

This should be hilarious.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:47:57 AM EDT
Once again it shows that our sad example of a leader takes a backseat to Russia. And I am no Putin lover like some of the people on here. But he is a Leader to his people
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:48:20 AM EDT
And here come Putin's Nobel Peace Prize...  
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:50:31 AM EDT
This is how a real leader would have handled it.  Behind closed door's he'd tell Putin to put his dog on a leash or we would put him down.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:51:03 AM EDT
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They should give him Obama's.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:52:04 AM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:54:27 AM EDT
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No, on the contrary this will offer Obama a way to save face.

The Russians aren't dumb.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:55:45 AM EDT
I just wonder what Putin is telling Assad behind closed doors....

Probably something to the effect of "Keep it up... it's working."
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:56:56 AM EDT
This should be good. I hope Syria actually pulls it off. I'd love to see what excuses Obama comes up with to justify attacking them anyway.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 8:59:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:00:18 AM EDT
Any one else get the feeling Russia is confused by just how bad team Obama handles international politics.

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Yea if you think about it its a brilliant plan. Give up the chem weapons to keep the USA from sending in cruise missiles then send in some Russian forces to help Assads army to push the militants out of the country then pull forces back out and rearm Assad with newer more capable weapons to replace his long gone chem weapons.



 
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:09:55 AM EDT
Wait a second....

Russia is the voice of reason?

RUSSIA!?!

What bizarro world did I wake up in...
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:10:33 AM EDT
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I can hear Kerry getting yelled at by Obummer all the way across the Potomac.

This should be hilarious.


No, on the contrary this will offer Obama a way to save face.

The Russians aren't dumb.



My point was that this was most likely a Kerry foot-in-the-mouth moment that the Russians are turning into a diplomatic coup.
Further making Obama look like the retard he is.

Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:11:28 AM EDT
Checkmate. Now what will the amature in the Whitehouse do?
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:11:47 AM EDT
O to Putin "Cockblocker!"
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:13:10 AM EDT
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My point was that this was most likely a Kerry foot-in-the-mouth moment that the Russians are turning into a diplomatic coup.
Further making Obama look like the retard he is.

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I can hear Kerry getting yelled at by Obummer all the way across the Potomac.

This should be hilarious.


No, on the contrary this will offer Obama a way to save face.

The Russians aren't dumb.



My point was that this was most likely a Kerry foot-in-the-mouth moment that the Russians are turning into a diplomatic coup.
Further making Obama look like the retard he is.



Kerry knew what he was doing. He had probably already discussed the proposal with the Russians before making the statement.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:14:38 AM EDT
Wow... I don't like Putin, but I gotta give it to him for this one.



Who woulda guessed?




Not my angry alter ego.
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I can hear Kerry getting yelled at by Obummer all the way across the Potomac.



This should be hilarious.





No, on the contrary this will offer Obama a way to save face.



The Russians aren't dumb.






My point was that this was most likely a Kerry foot-in-the-mouth moment that the Russians are turning into a diplomatic coup.

Further making Obama look like the retard he is.







Kerry knew what he was doing. He had probably already discussed the proposal with the Russians before making the statement.
That makes sense.

 
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I can hear Kerry getting yelled at by Obummer all the way across the Potomac.

This should be hilarious.


No, on the contrary this will offer Obama a way to save face.

The Russians aren't dumb.



My point was that this was most likely a Kerry foot-in-the-mouth moment that the Russians are turning into a diplomatic coup.
Further making Obama look like the retard he is.



Kerry knew what he was doing. He had probably already discussed the proposal with the Russians before making the statement.



That seems unlikely considering the back pedaling statements his staff made after Kerry's comment.

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"But the State Department sought to clarify Kerry's comment, and a U.S. official called the secretary of state's remarks a "major goof."

"Secretary Kerry was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

A U.S. official said the proposal isn't a serious option.

"There is no one in the administration who is taking this Syria proposal seriously," the official said, calling Kerry's remarks a major goof and saying the secretary of state "clearly went off script here.""


Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:20:29 AM EDT
Putin should say> Yeah Assad just put them at our base. We'll keep an eye on them.

Then Putin will say. We have control of them get lost.

Or Assad will he'll ship them to Iran.

Or Assad will just say get lost. You've no right to ask me to do anything with them.(If indeed I have ANY) You've no proof I ever used them and I am not a signatory to your stupid treaty. Anyway even if I did do as you ask then I have Sadaam predicament where you constantly say I still have them and no amount of proof I show is good enough.

Pass.

Assad can cut Obama balls off ( the little he has left)with one speech where he simply says that his country is under attack from Al Qaeda, the Muslim brotherhood and  groups aligned with them.  That these "rebels" are not fighting for the freedoms that American envisions but for a Muslim Caliphate and Sharia law. And he has no understanding why the USA would side with people who attacked their country on (9/11/2001 in New york and the Embassy in Benghazi last year..

The he should sit back and watch ol' jug ears shit his pants and dance around telling everyone he is wearing the latest fashion in brown pants.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:22:27 AM EDT
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Or Barry gave up something big Putin wanted like our missile shield sites in Eastern Europe.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:24:57 AM EDT
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That's is what happens when an egomaniac tries to play games with people that are competent.

Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:27:08 AM EDT
I don't care who came up with the plan.

If it means we don't bomb another country, it's a good plan.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:34:14 AM EDT
This means if Assad gives up of his chemical weapons to International control they will be able to test them to the victims that got gassed. Just think if they don't match the test results...
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:36:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 9:56:44 AM EDT
Regardless of what is said on Pennsylvania Avenue if this works you know someone in Moscow is going be quietly receiving an epic selection of catchup, salad dressing and other condiments around Christmas.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:06:15 AM EDT
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They should give him Obama's.


I was thinking this too.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:08:19 AM EDT
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Exactly. Putin just said the pen is mightier than the sword. Zero can suck on that!
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:11:58 AM EDT
Rush: Operation Shuck and Jive
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:25:58 AM EDT
Putin threw a wrench in Obamas speech the day before he's set to go on the air to ask for missile strikes. Now Obama will have to change his stradegy completely because he will look dumb now that this offer is on the table.
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Wait a second....

Russia is the voice of reason?

RUSSIA!?!

What bizarro world did I wake up in...
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Obama's Affirmative Action World.
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Putin should have waited a day.
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Putin threw a wrench in Obamas speech the day before he's set to go on the air to ask for missile strikes. Now Obama will have to change his stradegy completely because he will look dumb now that this offer is on the table.


Putin should have waited a day.


I disagree, Putin timed this nicely.  See, he gets to be the big peacemaker on the international stage, and jamb a thumb in America's eye. And the Obungler, having already commited to a big speech demanding approval for his military solution, must now backtrack from his position, or push ahead and look like an even bigger fool.

He waited for the O to derp himself fully into a corner, and then punked him publicly.

I'm not a big Putin fanboy, but credit where credit is due [golfclaps].
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:44:48 AM EDT
If the chemical weapons are turned over, how many heads will collectively explode when it is revealed there is Iraqi markings all over them?


This is fucking genius on Putin's part.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:44:48 AM EDT
The idiot GOP absolutely has to vote against this use of force now... FBHO has finally made a shit sandwich that even our fucked up media might just make him eat, and if Boenher and McCain let him off the hook I might have a fucking stroke.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 10:45:15 AM EDT
If this does happen Zero will just claim that his threats put the pressure on them and scared them into doing this.
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I disagree, Putin timed this nicely.  See, he gets to be the big peacemaker on the international stage, and jamb a thumb in America's eye. And the Obungler, having already commited to a big speech demanding approval for his military solution, must now backtrack from his position, or push ahead and look like an even bigger fool.

He waited for the O to derp himself fully into a corner, and then punked him publicly.

I'm not a big Putin fanboy, but credit where credit is due [golfclaps].
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Putin threw a wrench in Obamas speech the day before he's set to go on the air to ask for missile strikes. Now Obama will have to change his stradegy completely because he will look dumb now that this offer is on the table.


Putin should have waited a day.


I disagree, Putin timed this nicely.  See, he gets to be the big peacemaker on the international stage, and jamb a thumb in America's eye. And the Obungler, having already commited to a big speech demanding approval for his military solution, must now backtrack from his position, or push ahead and look like an even bigger fool.

He waited for the O to derp himself fully into a corner, and then punked him publicly.

I'm not a big Putin fanboy, but credit where credit is due [golfclaps].


As others have said, Putin is playing chess while Zero is playing Go Fish............or spades.
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This.

Plus... Assad can whoop up on the Rebels and Al-Qeada without using Chem Weapons anyway. Calling Oblamer & Kerry's bluff is a win win for Syria.
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I just wonder what Putin is telling Assad behind closed doors....

Probably something to the effect of "Keep it up... it's working."


Or Barry gave up something big Putin wanted like our missile shield sites in Eastern Europe.

Hmmm. I've been wondering if they may be bargaining chips.
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Its is possible and probably the only out he has at this point to save face.



 
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 11:01:02 AM EDT
Now all of a sudden Hillary makes a statement.




Hillary Clinton: Syria Giving Up Chemical Weapons Would Be 'Important Step'




Link Posted: 9/9/2013 11:07:02 AM EDT
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Putin should say> Yeah Assad just put them at our base. We'll keep an eye on them.

Then Putin will say. We have control of them get lost.

Or Assad will he'll ship them to Iran.

Or Assad will just say get lost. You've no right to ask me to do anything with them.(If indeed I have ANY) You've no proof I ever used them and I am not a signatory to your stupid treaty. Anyway even if I did do as you ask then I have Sadaam predicament where you constantly say I still have them and no amount of proof I show is good enough.

Pass.

Assad can cut Obama balls off ( the little he has left)with one speech where he simply says that his country is under attack from Al Qaeda, the Muslim brotherhood and  groups aligned with them.  That these "rebels" are not fighting for the freedoms that American envisions but for a Muslim Caliphate and Sharia law. And he has no understanding why the USA would side with people who attacked their country on (9/11/2001 in New york and the Embassy in Benghazi last year..

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Putin has called on Syria to do two specific things:

1.  Sign the OPCW Protocol

2.  Turn over CW to the UN


Your media is lying to you again.
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Now all of a sudden Hillary makes a statement.

Hillary Clinton: Syria Giving Up Chemical Weapons Would Be 'Important Step'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/hillary-clinton-syria_n_3895198.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D371724


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her play for the next election cycle.
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 11:12:14 AM EDT
Works for me.
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Its is possible and probably the only out he has at this point to save face.
 
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Its is possible and probably the only out he has at this point to save face.
 



+1. Wonder why Putin is giving Obama an out?  What does he have to gain?
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Obama just got slammed.  Putin has him in check and BHO ain't getting out and we are not messing with Syria.




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Or what if after the UN(or who ever) has control over those weapons more people get gassed.  
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If this does happen Zero will just claim that his threats put the pressure on them and scared them into doing this.




Its is possible and probably the only out he has at this point to save face.

 






+1. Wonder why Putin is giving Obama an out?  What does he have to gain?
Probably gives Putin another opportunity to embarrass Obama by releasing details of meetings or some other thing.

 
Link Posted: 9/9/2013 2:30:06 PM EDT
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