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Posted: 9/10/2013 12:08:56 PM EDT
That was quick.





How…unexpected. (Not.) John Kerry said it couldn’t be done. Russia is making sure that it won’t, even if it could be.

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Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework to control Syria’s chemical weapons’ stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday.





"As I understood, the Russians at this stage were not necessarily enthusiastic, and I’m using euphemism, to put all that into the framework of a U.N. binding resolution,” Laurent Fabius told French lawmakers after a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.





Obama is being played. The Russian deal forced him to change course and re-write tonight’s speech at the last minute. Now he has to re-write it again, or pretend that the Russians didn’t just drop a flaming bag of something on the White House doorstep. It will be grimly amusing to see what Obama tells the American people about all this now. The words "fiasco” and "clusterf*ck” have been said by others today. He won’t use either word, but that doesn’t mean both don’t apply.





Harry Reid pretended that the Russia deal drove him to halt a vote on force in the Senate. The reality is that Democrat votes for force were "dropping like flies,” and the prospect of passage in the House was always grim. Obama lost the Congressional Black Caucus today. Sen. Mitch McConnell came out against bombing today, breaking with the House GOP leaders who had supported it, and probably killing off any chance that the Senate would help Obama out by at least giving him a split vote in Congress. The likelihood now is that he gets rejected by both houses with actual "No” votes or implicitly if neither brings the authorization to a vote, and then has to decide if he wants to strike Syria anyway. Does Barry feel lucky?





So Obama is being played by Putin. The question is, does he know or even care that he’s being played? He seemed happy enough to grab Putin’s hand and get out of his jam. Now what’s he going to do? Putin is saying that there will be no quick fix, and that he intends to keep on using the UN to mess around with Obama, promise him a prize, then take it away, over and over again. Playing the part of Lucy, Vlad Putin. Playing the part of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football, Barack Obama. For a while to come.


http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/russia-backing-away-from-fake-syria-weapons-deal/



 
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:10:47 PM EDT
I have a feeling this is far from over.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:10:58 PM EDT
I have a feeling this is far from over.

ETA: I guess I really meant that.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:11:45 PM EDT
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You can say that again!

Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:12:36 PM EDT


Putin to Obama: Got you, fucker!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:12:56 PM EDT
Of all the stupid fucking people we could have elected...
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:14:23 PM EDT
So when is the suit gonna be prating on at us tonight?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:15:15 PM EDT
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Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:15:39 PM EDT
We're getting trolled by Russia.  Putin is making him look like a fucking idiot.

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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:16:05 PM EDT
Putin offered to take the weapons away, and then O decides to take all the credit for himself.  Putin says "ok" and pulls this.  

This is beyond pathetic.  I'm just waiting for O to lose his cool and see who gets killed first.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:16:20 PM EDT
Putin be trollin'  Obama be hatin'.
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we?

As I have said multiple times, unfortunately we have to vote against a candidate.

didn't happen these times.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:17:35 PM EDT
So does this mean WW3 is back on?
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and that really doesn't take much effort.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:18:14 PM EDT
Putin is fucking with O and crew.  What a fucking goat rope.  Who the fuck is running our foreign policy a fucking 12 year old girl?
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yes.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:18:44 PM EDT
They are backing away from the version that France is about to bring to the UN Security Council, the Russians do not like some of the language in it. There will be lots of negotiations before a proposal is brought to a vote.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:18:53 PM EDT
God damn it. I was hoping this shit was over already.

I guess this shit wont end until the formal impeachment reaches the senate.
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At 12 I think I could have done a better job...



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:19:33 PM EDT
Gee didn't see that coming...

In for the butt hurt tap dancing memes  
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horse face kerry, a twelve year old girl would be a massive improvement
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:20:19 PM EDT
Sometimes I wish Putin had an American parent.
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I hope so. That hot chick needs help with her kickstarter.



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:20:54 PM EDT
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Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal.
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Y'all could have elected me and kept me stone drunk literally 24/7 and done better out of the deal.


When Clinton was running for his second term, polls indicated that people would vote for Ronald Reagan with full-blown Alzheimer's over Clinton (yes, and the Republicans still managed to lose).

Reagan in his current state could do a better job than O'Bumble.
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FIFY

And loving every minute of it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:21:06 PM EDT

Well played Vlad, well played. So now it's back to Plan A? I don't know whether to laugh or head for the hills.

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You got my vote!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:22:14 PM EDT
While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN.  Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated.

This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing.

Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday.
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 Italics are mine.

The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC.

Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC.  Let the UN take control of the CW stocks.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:22:41 PM EDT
What a tangled up mess of crap it's become. The outcome hasn't changed though.
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Naw, just a guy who's last job was organizing crack heads in da hood.



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:23:44 PM EDT
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway)
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:25:13 PM EDT
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You have to admit, it's fun watching this shit knowing that it's all because a manchild was elected by fucking morons.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:25:41 PM EDT
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway)
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway)



Agreed.

When it's all said and done Russia will be the doiminant force in the Middle East, the US will be on the diplomatic ash heap of history.

100% due to obama's amateurish meddling.
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they were just waiting for the US to pat itself on the back for it's wonderfully slick diplomacy, and for the press to back the admin up, before they yanked the rug out.


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It's pretty damn funny too.
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No I think it actually means Ann Margret's not coming.
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yup hurray!
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Does this mean that Ann-Margaret is not coming?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:30:09 PM EDT
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway)
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He is a fucking idiot. We are seeing a KGB agent playing with a stoner community organizer. What did you expect? Putin will get everything he wants just so zero can save face (already lost it anyway)



I'll bet putin is laughing his ass off at the ease of fucking with this foreigner posing as an American president.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:31:14 PM EDT
I really want to run for President...
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:32:24 PM EDT
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That was quick.



How…unexpected. (Not.) John Kerry said it couldn’t be done. Russia is making sure that it won’t, even if it could be.
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[div style='margin-left: 40px;']Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework to control Syria’s chemical weapons’ stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday.


"As I understood, the Russians at this stage were not necessarily enthusiastic, and I’m using euphemism, to put all that into the framework of a U.N. binding resolution,” Laurent Fabius told French lawmakers after a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.


Obama is being played. The Russian deal forced him to change course and re-write tonight’s speech at the last minute. Now he has to re-write it again, or pretend that the Russians didn’t just drop a flaming bag of something on the White House doorstep. It will be grimly amusing to see what Obama tells the American people about all this now. The words "fiasco” and "clusterf*ck” have been said by others today. He won’t use either word, but that doesn’t mean both don’t apply.

Harry Reid pretended that the Russia deal drove him to halt a vote on force in the Senate. The reality is that Democrat votes for force were "dropping like flies,” and the prospect of passage in the House was always grim. Obama lost the Congressional Black Caucus today. Sen. Mitch McConnell came out against bombing today, breaking with the House GOP leaders who had supported it, and probably killing off any chance that the Senate would help Obama out by at least giving him a split vote in Congress. The likelihood now is that he gets rejected by both houses with actual "No” votes or implicitly if neither brings the authorization to a vote, and then has to decide if he wants to strike Syria anyway. Does Barry feel lucky?

So Obama is being played by Putin. The question is, does he know or even care that he’s being played? He seemed happy enough to grab Putin’s hand and get out of his jam. Now what’s he going to do? Putin is saying that there will be no quick fix, and that he intends to keep on using the UN to mess around with Obama, promise him a prize, then take it away, over and over again. Playing the part of Lucy, Vlad Putin. Playing the part of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football, Barack Obama. For a while to come.






http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/russia-backing-away-from-fake-syria-weapons-deal/





 
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Umm, no.  That's not what happened.  France and Obama are trying to impose a bunch of conditions into a binding UN Security Council resolution (stuff like "the Syrian regime admits that it used chemical weapons" and "any UN member may use force to implement the conditions of this resolution").  Russian and Syria say "nyet."   They Syrians aren't backing away from the Russian proposal, they are backing away from the French proposal.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:32:41 PM EDT
I predict a lot of UMMMs and AHHHHHs during tonight's speech.  
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:33:26 PM EDT
Looking into the crystal ball it's time to warm up the whaambulance for the butt-hurt speech tonight.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:33:33 PM EDT
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN.  Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated.

This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing.

 Italics are mine.

The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC.

Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC.  Let the UN take control of the CW stocks.
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN.  Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated.

This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing.

Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday.
 Italics are mine.

The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC.

Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC.  Let the UN take control of the CW stocks.



Pretty much my take on it, as well.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:35:43 PM EDT
Our first Affirmative Action presdident...  What did you expect?  
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:35:58 PM EDT
But...but...Obama *dominated* Putin in person a couple of days ago!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:37:23 PM EDT
I told you that the Russians don't play nice. Zero is so outclassed by Putin that it isn't funny anymore. But I'm laughing just the same.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:38:35 PM EDT
They should have changed it literally a minute before his speech, so we could see him completely blow it. He isn't capable of speaking, only reading what's on the prompter.
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Pretty much my take on it, as well.
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While the bullshit is flying thick, allow me to clarify one simple point.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the issue to be dealt with through the OPCW and UN.  Both Russia and the US are signatories to the OPCW protocol.

Putin has been consistent in his calls for the US to comply with the G8 agreement (see above) that John Kerry himself negotiated.

This statement below, again reveals the US duplicity and goalpost moving that Kerry and Obama are practicing.

Russia is not keen at this stage for a binding U.N. Security Council resolution that would provide a framework (for Russia) to control Syria’s chemical weapons stocks, France’s foreign minister said after talks with his Russian counterpart on Tuesday.
 Italics are mine.

The Russians don't want the CW stocks, they want the US to honor it's treaty obligations, to keep its word and go through OPCW/UNSC.

Let the OPCW refer the matter to the UNSC.  Let the UN take control of the CW stocks.



Pretty much my take on it, as well.



The other thing that Russia really doesn't want the responsibility for is actually going into Syria and collecting up that crap.  They are saying, let the UN do it, it is the UN's job.

The domestic reporting on this issue is stupid and incomplete beyond words.  Deliberately so.

Obama and Kerry are now playing games for purely political purposes.  And this is exactly what Putin was talking about when he referred to the obama administration as "liars".

He is correct.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 12:40:38 PM EDT
Obama still does not have a clue after 5 years.
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