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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:30:48 PM EDT
Rush makes some good points here.

Tuesday, Sept. 6, 2005 1:01 p.m. EDT
Rush Limbaugh: Katrina's Lessons

America's top talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said Tuesday that the Hurricane Katrina disaster and the fingerpointing that has ensued offers the nation some profound lessons.

"What we've seen in New Orleans is first and foremost the utter failure of generation after generation after generation of the entitlement mentality," Limbaugh began at the top of his show.

Flood victims had been doubly victimized by the perception that government would somehow save them from nature's rage, he said. "They had no idea what to do because they've been told somebody else was going to fix it."

After fostering dependency among the citizens of New Orleans, Limbaugh said state and local officials failed to respond to the dependency they helped create.

"You've all seen the pictures of the school buses and the municipal buses that are flooded and ruined," he noted, referring to widely circulated photos of buses that sat idle throughout the storm just a mile away from the Superdome.

"We know there was an utter failure to execute an evacuation plan that was long in place," he said, before charging: "We're looking here at utter incompetence - total incompetence from the mayor of New Orleans and the Gov. of Louisiana."

"[The flood victims] were told to go to the Superdome but even then they had to walk to the Superdome" as the storm battered the city. "And they had to bring their own food and water to the Superdome," he noted


The top talker didn't spare federal officials, saying that another lesson of Katrina is that "large bureaucracies that grow ever larger by the year cannot handle circumstances like this."

"We have also learned that the utter failure of large bureaucracies only begets hearings by those bureaucracies which will serve really one purpose: And that is to give themselves excuses and reasons to further enlarge those bureaucracies - which will only compound our problem."

Only one government bureaucracy functioned well under the stress of the Katrina crisis, Limbaugh said: the U.S. military.






Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:32:58 PM EDT
Naturally, Rush is right. 'nuff said.

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:41:55 PM EDT
wonder if this gets turned into a Rush-Bashing frenzy by the left?

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:47:13 PM EDT
SITYS
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:49:23 PM EDT
Well said. Especially that last line.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:13:13 PM EDT
The military is designed to function under stress and does so very well. Once so engaged, the military returned New Orleans from the third world to the first.

But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:16:50 PM EDT
Awesome
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:16:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=386767
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:20:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
The military is designed to function under stress and does so very well. Once so engaged, the military returned New Orleans from the third world to the first.

But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?



If they had expected to need to send the military in there at the onset it would have happened a lot earlier.
Who could have predicted what happened?
Well, I could have but they ain't going to make me director of FEMA anytime soon.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:25:53 PM EDT
"What we've seen in New Orleans is first and foremost the utter failure of generation after generation after generation of the entitlement mentality," Limbaugh began at the top of his show.

Fixing this is half the battle.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:28:02 PM EDT
Damn,


I'm gonna have to start listening to Rush again. Hell yeah, he couldn't be more right.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:30:53 PM EDT
I'm glad the bus story is making the rounds.

Rush always goes on the offensive against liberals. I love it.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:31:47 PM EDT
+1x10^6
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:34:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EternalVigilance:
Damn,


I'm gonna have to start listening to Rush again. Hell yeah, he couldn't be more right.



He's been much better the last year. I stopped listening to him for a long time, now I'm back.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:01:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 7:05:37 PM EDT by KlubMarcus]

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?

The 82nd Airborne is not designed to be a quick reaction force to fight hurricanes and save stupid people. If you wanted them to drop on 'Nawlins and kill everyone and destroy the buildings, they can do that in 18 hours.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:24:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
The 82nd Airborne is not designed to be a quick reaction force to fight hurricanes and save stupid people. If you wanted them to drop on 'Nawlins and kill everyone and destroy the buildings, they can do that in 18 hours.



Hey, not a bad idea.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:48:10 PM EDT
Someone at work mentioned that Rush got ahold of the actual New Orleans Disaster plan for a Cat 3 storm and was reading through it on air, picking it apart. Anyone else hear this, and if so has it been published anywhere?.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:02:49 PM EDT
Rush tells it like it is, this is why the lefties are always after him.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:08:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
The military is designed to function under stress and does so very well. Once so engaged, the military returned New Orleans from the third world to the first.

But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?



Because as you well know, to put the greatest military on the planet to work, a civillian has to grow a pair of balls and pull the trigger.

Wiminz governors have NO balls
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:18:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:19:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:20:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
The military is designed to function under stress and does so very well. Once so engaged, the military returned New Orleans from the third world to the first.

But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?





There is a big difference in dropping in to an area to destroy things and kill people only needing to support the people you bring.

OR

Going on a relief mission where you not only have to support the people you bring WITHOUT stressing the area any further and causing more problems AND also be ready to provide relief support to thousands of others.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:33:08 PM EDT
Rush is a druggie...
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:38:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maddog_44:
Rush is a druggie...



True enough. But he's a druggie with spot-on observations concerning events in New Orleans...
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:47:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maddog_44:
Rush is a druggie...



Was.

And even then he made more sense than most of the people we have running this country.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:48:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
The military is designed to function under stress and does so very well. Once so engaged, the military returned New Orleans from the third world to the first.

But why the heck did it take days to deploy the military when the 82nd Airborne can be anywhere in the world in 18 hours?



I think the 18 hours or whatever is a paradrop, you can't parachute into a hurricane...imagine how many soldiers would die (from drowning even if the winds had stopped)...they were trucked, and there were thousands of trees to cut from the roads...not to mention who knows when they were told to get ready (few days after the 'cane?)
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:53:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maddog_44:
Rush is a druggie...





Boy that is relevant.

You should be proud of yourself for being so smart and clever.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 9:07:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 9:09:05 PM EDT by Da_Bunny]
There are a multitude of laws in place that restrict the federal government from going into American cities and taking over.

There is a huge labyrinth of checks and balances that prevent the President from sending in troops, without signatures from everybody down the line.

This was a failure of the laws that limit the power of the president. The same laws that prevent the President from moving in troops to quell riots, prevented him from moving FEMA personnel and troops into NOLA.

GW Bush tried to move into New Orleans with federal manpower before the storm hit. The Governor of LA refused to sign off on the paperwork. That is the ONLY reason FEMA wasn't there before the storm hit.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 10:07:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 10:08:16 PM EDT by Da_Bunny]
Bush would have gone to jail.

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878


June 18, 1878

CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment.
10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375

Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel:

The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

18 U.S.C. 1385

Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of
Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to
execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Editor's Note: The only exemption has to do with nuclear materials (18 U.S.C. 831 (e)

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 10:37:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 10:39:26 PM EDT by Az_Redneck]

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By Maddog_44:
Rush is a druggie...





Boy that is relevant.

You should be proud of yourself for being so smart and clever.



I think he was giving the board the liberal remark that automaticaly discounts everything Rush says regardless of whether he's right or wrong.. "It doesn't matter what he says because he's a drug addict!" .. They tried the same thing with Bush and his openly admitting his alcohol problem and alleged cocaine use..Heck, we did it to Clinton with the "I didn't inhale" and we still do it to "hiccup" Kennedy... It's a game we all play..Enjoy it
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 10:40:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Az_Redneck:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By Maddog_44:
Rush is a druggie...





Boy that is relevant.

You should be proud of yourself for being so smart and clever.



I think he was giving the board the liberal remark that automaticaly discounts everything Rush says regardless of whether he's right or wrong.. "It doesn't matter what he says because he's a drug addict!" .. They tried the same thing with Bush abd alcohol and cocaine..Heck, we did it to Clinton with the "I didn't inhale" and we still do it to "hiccup" Kennedy... It's a game we all play..Enjoy it



But...but...its true about them....isnt it?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 10:41:04 PM EDT
Where's that dipshit Smegmahead? I'm sure he has something trollish to say about this.
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