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Posted: 6/1/2003 6:37:02 PM EDT
I've got a few questions and ideas. Chime in with what yall think. I saw and fell in love with a 44 international carbine yesterday. Problem was the price. I was looking for a shooter, not a collectors piece. So i got to examining it really closely. it looks like the dimentions ont he 10/22 international and the 44 internationL were virtually identical (although I know that there is a tubular magazine under the barrel in the 44 that is absent from the 10/22). What do yall think that feasibility of getting a mannlicher stock for a 10/22 and altering it to accept that 44 carbine (btw, what is the going price on a later 70's run of the mill carbine?). Are their any issue i'm over looking? I know that the 10/22 is held to the stock at the screw just forward of the mag well, however I didn't see such a screw int he 44 carbine (where does it attach to the stock at?) Comments, thoughs, trouble shooting ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 6:52:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/1/2003 6:55:02 PM EDT by raven]
International carbine in .44 mag? Never heard of this gun. Responding because my pop had the Ruger .44 mag carbine, it was our bear defense gun. I dont think they're more than $500, how much was the carbine you were looking at?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 6:57:14 PM EDT
Doesn't it only hold 3 or maybe 5 rounds?? Can't use pointy bullets in a tubular mag.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:02:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Only_Hits_Count: Doesn't it only hold 3 or maybe 5 rounds?? Can't use pointy bullets in a tubular mag.
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Who uses "pointy" .44 mag bullets???? Sloth, I don't have any answers for ya but you should try posting this 5 or 6 more times to get more responses.[;)]
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:06:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/1/2003 7:06:53 PM EDT by Ranger689]
I think it would be a bad idea trying to convert a 10/22 to .44 mag. Ruger is making a new version of the 44 carbine my buddy has one and it shoots really well. I have an older one that was made in 1969 and its nice too. I paid $270, it was on consignment at a local gun shop.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:14:04 PM EDT
Hoe many rounds does the tubular one take. The mag fed one takes only 4 TXL
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 10:44:59 PM EDT
i shot one once and didn't like it. .44mag, light wt rifle=recoil. they do look like a 10/22 though. the one i shot was the old tube one and i can't remember exactly but it either either 4 or 5round capacity. used they should be in the $350-400 range from what i've seen..350 being reasonable.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 5:06:39 AM EDT
The international version (mannlicher stock) was only made between 1968 and 1971. As such the numbers are less that 3000 rifles produced (the figures I've been given). As such the average price on one of these is in the 650-800 range. the one I saw at teh gun show was 650. This is a bit steep for what I want to do with the gun. As a side note, I saw a bushy shory ak with all wood furniture (even the float tube was wrapped in walnut). Shwing!!!!I will be purchasing this soon. The fella selling the rifle told me that he can get the complete set (stock, float tube and pistol grip (target style) for $180.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:46:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2003 6:53:30 AM EDT by California_Kid]
sloth, I don't believe that would work. The "international" stock is slimmer in the fore-end area than the standard 10/22 stock, which has exactly the same profile as the 44 Carbine. In the 44, the wood is very thin where it covers the front end of the gas tube assembly (which does not exist in the 10/22). On 44s that have been fired heavily the wood gets burned through at that point. BTW I paid $240 for my 44 Carbine. The stock is in good shape but the rifle was very dirty. I had to drive out the double spring pin that holds the gas block on and soak the cylinder in brake cleaner to get the piston un-stuck. I think some Bozo inherited it or bought it at a garage sale then rapid-fired it until it stopped cycling. But it cleaned up beautifully. The bore is very bright and the rifling is sharp. I called Sturm, Ruger & Co. with the low serial number and they told me the date of manufacture was August 1963. They sent me two copies of the user manual for free. It has almost no CYA safety warnings, and recommends loading four rounds in the magazine [b]and one in the chamber[/b]. [:D] [50]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 7:06:22 AM EDT
Call Ruger. They will tell you straight up if it can be done.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 9:17:09 AM EDT
I just spoke with a person at ruger. absolutley useless..."well sir I'd have to measure the two stocks to see if they are interchangable. as we no longer make the 44, that is impossible to do". If anyone has one of these, could you please do me a favor and trace the outline of the stock. I have a 10/22 with a mannlicher stock, so I'd be able to compare. I know your probably wondering what the big deal is...I love mannlicher stocked guns. I don't know why, I was just born that way. Thanks to anyone that can help me out. Jim
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 9:32:33 AM EDT
Just get the .44 mag deerfield instead: [url]http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=6301&return=Y[/url] [img]http://www.katsko.net/Firearms/Ruger/rug9944carb.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 9:59:31 AM EDT
The problem is that I really like the older 10/22 style action. plus, i want to put a laminate mannlicher stock on it (the inlet for the 10/22 looks very similar to the 44 carbine). getting a stock inlet for the new 44 carbine would be more difficult.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 12:11:38 PM EDT
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