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Posted: 3/15/2005 5:21:12 PM EDT

Has anyone heard about this and if they did. Guiliani for pres. or Rice????

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:21:51 PM EDT

[#1]

Ruddy

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:22:08 PM EDT

[#2]

I wouldn't vote for Giuliani. He's a Democrat if he's from any other part of the country.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:22:19 PM EDT

[#3]

Either over Hitlery.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:23:13 PM EDT

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I wouldn't vote for Giuliani. He's a Democrat if he's from any other part of the country.

+1, I'm at the end of my rope with these posers.

You either support individual rights and capitalism, or you don't. No more games.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:24:23 PM EDT

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I would like to see Rice as the President in 2008.

But theres no way Rice will run. Theres so many other people in the Republican Party who have priority over her. And she knows this. If she announced an intention, the Republican Party wouldn't back her. It would be extremely out of turn.

Hell, shes never really given any indication that she would even WANT to be President.

Also, shes never held an elected position.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:26:24 PM EDT

[#6]

Rudy is a gun grabber. Nuff said.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:27:30 PM EDT

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Rudy is about an 8.5 on the Weasel-O-Meter. He's no friend of gun owners.

Condi, on the other hand, is...well, just dreamy...

(I'll be in my bunk)

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:28:11 PM EDT

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Frist?

Rush's theory is that if Frist tackles Senate Democrats and makes them conform to HIS rules, he will become the pack leader.
I hope that theory is right.
Frist seems pretty good compared to McCain, Guiliani, or Clinton.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:28:53 PM EDT

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Rudy or Hitlery. Humph- some choice. Either way, hold onto your wallets, and kiss your guns buh-bye.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:29:42 PM EDT

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:30:10 PM EDT

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If the Republicans choose Guiliani in '08, gun-owners will be fucked whether he wins or not.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:30:27 PM EDT

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Frist?

Rush's theory is that if Frist tackles Senate Democrats and makes them conform to HIS rules, he will become the pack leader.
I hope that theory is right.
Frist seems pretty good compared to McCain, Guiliani, or Clinton.

+1

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:32:28 PM EDT

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I wouldn't vote for Giuliani. He's a Democrat if he's from any other part of the country.

+1, I'm at the end of my rope with these posers.

You either support individual rights and capitalism, or you don't. No more games.

I AGREE

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:35:04 PM EDT

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Nominating Giuliani would be a great for the Rs to get half the folks who voted for W to stay home.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:35:22 PM EDT

[#15]

I'd take Rudy over Rice any day

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-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:40:37 PM EDT

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If the Republicans choose Guiliani in '08, gun-owners will be fucked whether he wins or not.

True enough,but I dont think he would do well in the primaries,especially down south.Remember Mcain in 2000,he had the media as his collective bitch yet couldnt win down south.The media this time will dig up every tiny skeleton in his closet,combined with his antigun stance,he has little chance to get the nomination.If somehow he does get it,I am writting in Dolomite for prez cause I aint voting for him or the antichrist

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:41:43 PM EDT

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:42:37 PM EDT

[#18]

I would vote for Hillary over Ruddy. At least then we would know our enemy and be on our guard. With Ruddy he would stab us in the back and we wouldn't even know what hit us.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:43:02 PM EDT

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

Pro choice, Rice is doomed, too bad.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:44:23 PM EDT

[#20]

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

You do that. Rudy will be happy to fuck you back if he does get elected. Check his record on gun control.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:45:45 PM EDT

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that simple.

-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:47:43 PM EDT

[#22]

I will never vote for Guiliani - EVER............socialist scumbag. I would rather "throw away" my vote in the 2008 election to a Libertarian candidate then elect that POS. The converse effect of a Hillary win - the Congress will probably have an even BIGGER Republican majority if she is elected.......(Just like the 1998 Congressional Elections and since....). Congress isnt the whole picture but it is CRITICAL that we retain control of Congress. Bad Presidents may make bad policy - Congress changes our lives forever as does the Judiciary.......they all do to some extent........but my concern is over GOOD legislators and GOOD judges.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:48:53 PM EDT

[#23]

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that STUPID.

-Justin

Fixed it for you.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:50:15 PM EDT

[#24]

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I would like to see Rice as the President in 2008.

But theres no way Rice will run. Theres so many other people in the Republican Party who have priority over her. And she knows this. If she announced an intention, the Republican Party wouldn't back her. It would be extremely out of turn.

Hell, shes never really given any indication that she would even WANT to be President.

Also, shes never held an elected position.

I like Rice, but she would not be a big vote getter as a Presidential Candidate - VP Candidate, different story perhaps.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:52:42 PM EDT

[#25]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

Pro choice, Rice is doomed, too bad.

Compared to Hillary, Condi's views on abortion make her look like Eric Rudolph. Regardless of morality, abortion is here to stay. Running a white, male, conservative against Hillary will be about as good as not running anyone. Women, even conservative women, will vote for Hillary in droves. The minority vote will go to Hillary. We will lose.

The time to get pro-choice and pro-life candidates elected was in the 80s. Now is the time to run a candidate that will sweep voters that usually vote Democrat. I would rather see nothing change with abortion than live through another Clinton presidency.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:55:36 PM EDT

[#26]

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I would like to see Rice as the President in 2008.

But theres no way Rice will run. Theres so many other people in the Republican Party who have priority over her. And she knows this. If she announced an intention, the Republican Party wouldn't back her. It would be extremely out of turn.

Hell, shes never really given any indication that she would even WANT to be President.

Also, shes never held an elected position.

I like Rice, but she would not be a big vote getter as a Presidential Candidate - VP Candidate, different story perhaps.

You are kidding yourself. A black presidential candidate will be a strong contender, regardless of party affiliation.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:56:05 PM EDT

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that STUPID.

-Justin

Fixed it for you.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. That being said, do you think other [male dominant] countries will ever take us seriously with a female president? I'll tell you the answer, NO!
They would laugh at us and mock us behind our backs. A president must have a dominant and appearance and when threatening the use of force, he must have a convincing tone. Can you imagine what it would be like if Condi Rice, and not FDR, was the one who made the declaration of war speach in 1941?

-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:56:18 PM EDT

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First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that simple.

So,

1. You would vote for Charles Manson if he was from New York, and
2. You think that women have inferior leadership skills.

Nice.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:56:19 PM EDT

[#29]

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that simple.

-Justin

One of the dumbest things i've ever seen posted here. Congrats.

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I would vote for Hillary over Ruddy. At least then we would know our enemy and be on our guard. With Ruddy he would stab us in the back and we wouldn't even know what hit us.

Strike the above, this is absolutely the dumbest thing i've ever seen posted....anywhere.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:56:51 PM EDT

[#30]

Hell with Rudy. HE will own all your freedoms. NO I wouldn't vote for him.

Secondly, I don't understand why all this talk of Hillary. I mean, she has Soooooo much baggage with Whitewater and the suspicious circumstances in the death of Vince Foster, not to mention her debacle with health reform, the Republican Army during the 2008 election period would have a media field day with her. It would be a FEAST. Oh well just my 2 cents.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:57:18 PM EDT

[#31]

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that STUPID.

-Justin

Fixed it for you.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. That being said, do you think other [male dominant] countries will ever take us seriously with a female president? I'll tell you the answer, NO!
They would laugh at us and mock us behind our backs. A president must have a dominant and appearance and when threatening the use of force, he must have a convincing tone. Can you imagine what it would be like if Condi Rice, and not FDR, was the one who made the declaration of war speach in 1941?

-Justin

Yeah, the world really laughed it up at Margaret Thatcher.

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:57:31 PM EDT

[#32]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

Pro choice, Rice is doomed, too bad.
Compared to Hillary, Condi's views on abortion make her look like Eric Rudolph. Regardless of morality, abortion is here to stay. Running a white, male, conservative against Hillary will be about as good as not running anyone. Women, even conservative women, will vote for Hillary in droves. The minority vote will go to Hillary. We will lose.

The time to get pro-choice and pro-life candidates elected was in the 80s. Now is the time to run a candidate that will sweep voters that usually vote Democrat. I would rather see nothing change with abortion than live through another Clinton presidency.

Very true. I wouldn't mind seeing abortion stay legal if it means preserving all other individual rights. After all, abortion is like firearm ownership- you have the ability and tools to kill, but you don't (shouldn't- unless absolutely necessary

).

Posted: 3/15/2005 5:59:28 PM EDT

[#33]

I think its ridiculously ironic that we've become so "PC" that we think certain people are more electable based solely on their gender or skin color...

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:00:00 PM EDT

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Well, you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I.

Yes, unfortunately your opinion is asinine.

That being said, do you think other [male dominant] countries will ever take us seriously with a female president? I'll tell you the answer, NO!

Yeah, look at how they all laughed at Maggie Thatcher and Golda Meier.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:01:03 PM EDT

[#35]

If rudy gets the republican nomination and hitlery gets the dems,then we will be faced with a choice between a douche and a turd samwich

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:02:48 PM EDT

[#36]

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I think its ridiculously ironic that we've become so "PC" that we think certain people are more electable based solely on their gender or skin color...

PC has nothing to do with it. It's a calculation.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:04:30 PM EDT

[#37]

Rudy would not win the Rep. Primaries outside of the Northeast. Probably not all of the Northeast either.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:06:33 PM EDT

[#38]

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Frist?

Rush's theory is that if Frist tackles Senate Democrats and makes them conform to HIS rules, he will become the pack leader.
I hope that theory is right.
Frist seems pretty good compared to McCain, Guiliani, or Clinton.

+1

Wish I'd stop forgetting his name. He's been such a friend to us. He needs some more camera time for name recognition in a few years.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:08:32 PM EDT

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I'd take Rudy over Rice any day !

-Justin

I sincerely hope you're joking.

First of all, I am from New York. Second, I obviously am a Republican like most of us here, but I simply could not accept a female president. I guess it's just that STUPID.

-Justin

Fixed it for you.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. That being said, do you think other [male dominant] countries will ever take us seriously with a female president? I'll tell you the answer, NO!
They would laugh at us and mock us behind our backs. A president must have a dominant and appearance and when threatening the use of force, he must have a convincing tone. Can you imagine what it would be like if Condi Rice, and not FDR, was the one who made the declaration of war speach in 1941?

-Justin

Yeah. We're only the most powerful country in the fucking world. We better be careful.

I could have convinced Congress to declare war on Japan on 8 Dec 1941. My speech may not have been as nice, but the Japanese already got the point across.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:12:29 PM EDT

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They would laugh at us and mock us behind our backs.

Where have you been? She just finished a globe-trotting diplomatic tour, and charmed the pants off of everybody. The Euro-weenies couldn't say enough good things about her. Cultured, well-read, affluent in French...she owned them!

A president must have a dominant and appearance and when threatening the use of force, he must have a convincing tone. Can you imagine what it would be like if Condi Rice, and not FDR, was the one who made the declaration of war speach in 1941?

FDR was a short, feeble, relatively uneducated man in a wheelchair. Condi is none of these things.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:19:41 PM EDT

[#41]

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If rudy gets the republican nomination and hitlery gets the dems,then we will be faced with a choice between a douche and a turd samwich

The problem is that you guys have not seen what Rudy has done for NYC. If any of you guys have ever visited Times Square then you'll be shcoked to know that there used to be over 400 [official] adult entertainment shops on that little strip, but when Rudy was elected, he reduced that number to 8. I am talking about a time when the New York Times, arguably the most prestigious publication in the US, was desperately hiring anyone who could breath because all the qualified candidates were adraid to walk the TWO blocks through Times Sqaure to the NY Times office. Rudy cleaned all of that up. He took on the mob like nobody's business and made the city as safe as it could ever be. Now for those of you that frown upon his liberal stances on certain issues, bear in mind that NYC is one of the most liberal-dominated cities in America. Do you think that Rudy would ever have been elected Mayor if he adopted an entirely conservative stance on ALL issues? The fact is, despite his liberal opinions on those aforementioned issues, Rudy's actions do not definitively indicate that he truly believs in those opinions. For all we know, he could've done so just so he could get elected and clean up the mess that Mayors Koch and Dinkins left behind.

-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:21:26 PM EDT

[#42]

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If rudy gets the republican nomination and hitlery gets the dems,then we will be faced with a choice between a douche and a turd samwich

That would provide the first credible time I have seen for us to vote en mass for a 3rd party candidate.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:24:04 PM EDT

[#43]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

IF YOU ARE OFFENDED IN ANY WAY I APOLIGIZE IN ADVANCE.

In my opinion Rice would not sway the minority vote at all. It is a sad thing but black folks will probably view her as a traitor (Republican, generally speaking in louisiana at least if they vote, not many do, they are indoctrinated to vote Democrat) or a turncoat. Clarence Thomas comes to mind, immediately. Plus if you rely on minority and youth vote, you are ALWAYS left standing at the alter alone. SKerry comes to mind.

The mindset of Louisiana blacks is Republican= Loss of gov. support programs like Medicaid, Welfare, and hefty tax credits. I suspect this is consistent everywhere. It is really a sad commentary on who blacks look to for leadership, it is like the middle east you trade a tyrant for a crook who soon becomes a tyrant.

Democrat= welfare state.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:26:21 PM EDT

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They would laugh at us and mock us behind our backs.

Where have you been? She just finished a globe-trotting diplomatic tour, and charmed the pants off of everybody. The Euro-weenies couldn't say enough good things about her. Cultured, well-read, affluent in French...she owned them!

When did this become a popularity contest? Isn't that what Kerry was aiming for?

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:26:43 PM EDT

[#45]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

IF YOU ARE OFFENDED IN ANY WAY I APOLIGIZE IN ADVANCE.

In my opinion Rice would not sway the minority vote at all. It is a sad thing but black folks will probably view her as a traitor (Republican, generally speaking in louisiana at least if they vote, not many do, they are indoctrinated to vote Democrat) or a turncoat. Clarence Thomas comes to mind, immediately. Plus if you rely on minority and youth vote, you are ALWAYS left standing at the alter alone. SKerry comes to mind.

The mindset of Louisiana blacks is Republican= Loss of gov. support programs like Medicaid, Welfare, and hefty tax credits. I suspect this is consistent everywhere. It is really a sad commentary on who blacks look to for leadership, it is like the middle east you trade a tyrant for a crook who soon becomes a tyrant.

Democrat= welfare state.

You're right. According to an article that appeared in yesterday's Times (or maybe it was Newsday, I can't remember), she would be the SECOND president to ever do so.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:29:47 PM EDT

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When did this become a popularity contest? Isn't that what Kerry was aiming for?

Noon,

Maybe you could provide some confirmation. Do you remember what NYC was BEFORE Rudy was elected? Do you remember how Koch and Dinkins left the city in financial and physical ruins? They drained the city dry like a modern day Boss Tweed. Now, do you remember what the city was AFTER Rudy was done with it. Ahh, sighs of nostalgia.

-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:32:45 PM EDT

[#47]

Noon,

I just caught a glimpse of your avatar and I must say I know how you feel bro.

-Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:35:47 PM EDT

[#48]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

IF YOU ARE OFFENDED IN ANY WAY I APOLIGIZE IN ADVANCE.

In my opinion Rice would not sway the minority vote at all. It is a sad thing but black folks will probably view her as a traitor (Republican, generally speaking in louisiana at least if they vote, not many do, they are indoctrinated to vote Democrat) or a turncoat. Clarence Thomas comes to mind, immediately. Plus if you rely on minority and youth vote, you are ALWAYS left standing at the alter alone. SKerry comes to mind.

The mindset of Louisiana blacks is Republican= Loss of gov. support programs like Medicaid, Welfare, and hefty tax credits. I suspect this is consistent everywhere. It is really a sad commentary on who blacks look to for leadership, it is like the middle east you trade a tyrant for a crook who soon becomes a tyrant.

Democrat= welfare state.

Not offended at all. My experience in Georgia has been that black candidates get the black vote regardless of party affiliation. Many have stated publicly that they would vote for a black presidential candidate without question, based on race alone.

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:39:53 PM EDT

[#49]

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Rice.

Regardless of priority, Rice could swing the election if Hillary runs. She would pull much of the minority votes away from the Dems, and prevent many women for voting for Hillary without looking into the issues. I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel they have a spot ahead of her in line, but realism dictates that if Hillary runs against a weak opponant, she will probably win. Holding an elected office isn't a requirement for the job, and she wouldn't be the first President that hadn't. She may very well be our only hope in avoiding 4-8 more years of Clinton oppression.

IF YOU ARE OFFENDED IN ANY WAY I APOLIGIZE IN ADVANCE.

In my opinion Rice would not sway the minority vote at all. It is a sad thing but black folks will probably view her as a traitor (Republican, generally speaking in louisiana at least if they vote, not many do, they are indoctrinated to vote Democrat) or a turncoat. Clarence Thomas comes to mind, immediately. Plus if you rely on minority and youth vote, you are ALWAYS left standing at the alter alone. SKerry comes to mind.

The mindset of Louisiana blacks is Republican= Loss of gov. support programs like Medicaid, Welfare, and hefty tax credits. I suspect this is consistent everywhere. It is really a sad commentary on who blacks look to for leadership, it is like the middle east you trade a tyrant for a crook who soon becomes a tyrant.

Democrat= welfare state.
Not offended at all. My experience in Georgia has been that black candidates get the black vote regardless of party affiliation. Many have stated publicly that they would vote for a black presidential candidate without question, based on race alone.

Just curious. Approx. what percentage of eligible black voters actually vote in the Georgia state elections?

Thanks,

Justin

Posted: 3/15/2005 6:40:20 PM EDT

[#50]

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When did this become a popularity contest? Isn't that what Kerry was aiming for?

Noon,

Maybe you could provide some confirmation. Do you remember what NYC was BEFORE Rudy was elected? Do you remember how Koch and Dinkins left the city in financial and physical ruins? They drained the city dry like a modern day Boss Tweed. Now, do you remember what the city was AFTER Rudy was done with it. Ahh, sighs of nostalgia.

-Justin

Yep, the people of New York love Rudy. He turned it around, and brought back integrity.

And yes, I'm dying without hockey....it's been a rough winter!

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