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Posted: 1/2/2016 9:49:46 AM EDT


Rubio’s newfound objection to surveillance appears to be limited to spying on the Israeli government. The senator has been a long-time defender of the NSA’s mass surveillance. “There is no evidence that these programs have been systematically abused,” he said in 2014, decrying what he described as “paranoia” around surveillance programs.

The previous year, he defended spying on foreign government officials, saying that “everybody spies on everybody, it’s just a fact.” In the most recent presidential debate, he accused rivals, like Ted Cruz, of endangering U.S. security by supporting modest reforms to the surveillance regime.

One reason Rubio may be carving out a special objection to spying on the Israeli government is that he is competing in the so-called Adelson primary — a contest for the financial backing of the pro-Israel casino magnate who spent $150 million during the 2012 election.

As of the time of publication, the Rubio campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

https://theintercept.com/2015/12/31/rubio-outraged-by-spying-on-israels-government-ok-with-mass-surveillance-of-americans/
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 9:54:35 AM EDT
Fuck both of those weak kneed bitches.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 10:05:13 AM EDT
fuck boy wonder

he kinda reminds me of Robin from Batman

Link Posted: 1/2/2016 10:15:51 AM EDT
Yeah lets pretend that it was the spying on Israel and not the part about spying on congress that were upset about...
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 10:19:45 AM EDT
Miami Beach
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 10:22:28 AM EDT
Fuck that establishment POS.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:05:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Fuck both of those weak kneed bitches.
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:07:23 AM EDT
All of the above.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:08:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:10:16 AM EDT
Cruz in 16!!
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:12:17 AM EDT
Ted Cruz is my response to this
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:13:10 AM EDT
Just doing his owners' bidding.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:13:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Fuck that establishment POS.
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:18:30 AM EDT
Gotta have all your ducks lined up if you want to be POTUS
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:23:48 AM EDT
lol what a dickbag.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:31:06 AM EDT
No to Rubio.
No to Jeb.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:37:05 AM EDT
I'm starting to think that the establishment really wants Rubio, and Jeb! is just running interference.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 11:53:37 AM EDT

Rubio’s newfound objection to surveillance appears to be limited to spying on the Israeli government. The senator has been a long-time defender of the NSA’s mass surveillance.
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Priorities.  The RNC has 'em.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:06:30 PM EDT
Hey...you've got to suck the Israeli cock if you even want a chance at becoming the nominee...even Trump...
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:11:09 PM EDT

then:


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hoekstra-cheney-briefed-nsa/2013/06/12/id/509652/

12 Jun 2013

Pete Hoekstra, the former chairman of the powerful House Intelligence Committee, tells Newsmax TV that NSA surveillance of emails and phone calls dates back to the Bush administration and that he was personally briefed on safeguards by then-Vice President Dick Cheney in 2004.

“I was briefed by the vice president and then-head of the NSA, Michael Hayden, and it was from my perspective a very thorough briefing,” recalled Hoekstra in an exclusive interview on Wednesday. “They talked about what the capabilities of the program were, how the programs functioned, and the protections that were put in place to make sure that American civil liberties were protected.”

The Michigan Republican said he met with some of the people who administered the programs and came away convinced “they clearly understood the responsibilities that they had to No. 1, do their job, but also to protect Americans' civil liberties.”

He believed that the only people at risk would be “foreigners who were outside of the U.S. legal boundaries.” His committee subsequently voted in favor of the cyber snooping, recalled Hoekstra.
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:18:05 PM EDT
LOL, Rubio is almost a caricature of the Republican Beltway, he is the ultimate personification of it....almost as if they made him in a factory.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:18:11 PM EDT
"I'm not just saying that you know since Paris, I'm saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you what to know the truth," said Trump. "It's pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security."

Hewitt followed up, "So you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?"

"I think that would be fine, as far as I'm concerned. That would be fine," explained Trump.

“I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:52:34 PM EDT
Still cannot believe that this spying issue is not front page 24/7, but then again perhaps the congress people that were spied on have been playing both sides of the fence and their patriotism is in question. If that is not the case and the NSA did pass on details to Obama there obsoletely needs to be articles of impeachment drafted.
FMR
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:57:00 PM EDT
He sold out a long time ago. He's nothing but a RINO trying to pretend he's still a Tea party guy.

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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:58:31 PM EDT
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Miami Beach
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:58:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:
"I'm not just saying that you know since Paris, I'm saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you what to know the truth," said Trump. "It's pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security."

Hewitt followed up, "So you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?"

"I think that would be fine, as far as I'm concerned. That would be fine," explained Trump.

“I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”
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But, but Trump!  He evolved!  Bargaining position!  Yeb lover!
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:59:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:24:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:
"I'm not just saying that you know since Paris, I'm saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you what to know the truth," said Trump. "It's pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security."

Hewitt followed up, "So you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?"

"I think that would be fine, as far as I'm concerned. That would be fine," explained Trump.

“I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”
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TDS
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:31:31 PM EDT
We would be absolute fools if we did not spy on EVERYONE.
Friend and foe.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:36:25 PM EDT
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We would be absolute fools if we did not spy on EVERYONE.
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Yes but spying on citizens has the pesky Constitution in the way . Stalin would be proud of what we do here in America the land of the free
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:39:01 PM EDT
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Men....dancing with other men.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 3:47:56 PM EDT
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TDS
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Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:
"I'm not just saying that you know since Paris, I'm saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you what to know the truth," said Trump. "It's pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security."

Hewitt followed up, "So you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?"

"I think that would be fine, as far as I'm concerned. That would be fine," explained Trump.

“I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”


TDS

How is Trump's position different than Rubio or ¡Yeb!'s?

I'm surprised you support Trump. His stated position on bulk metadata collection isn't very ARF-Somalian.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 3:50:35 PM EDT
Rubio’s newfound objection to surveillance appears to be limited to spying on the Israeli government. The senator has been a long-time defender of the NSA’s mass surveillance. “There is no evidence that these programs have been systematically abused,” he said in 2014, decrying what he described as “paranoia” around surveillance programs.
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And apparently no evidence the IRS was used for political purposes, judging from the reaction of the Cong(R)ess.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 3:56:04 PM EDT
FMR
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:50:08 PM EDT
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Men....dancing with other men.
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Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
https://youtu.be/fZNmGaEw57Q


Men....dancing with other men.


Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:53:05 PM EDT
Next Constitutional Amendment:

"Congress shall pass no law that excludes members of Congress from said law under any circumstances."

Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:53:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Matt_F:
Ted Cruz is my response to this
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Originally Posted By searchin4shacks:
Cruz in 16!!
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Cruz also supports spying on Americans.  D'oh.

http://rare.us/story/ted-cruz-who-voted-to-reauthorize-the-patriot-act-jabs-rand-paul-over-the-nsa/
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:59:22 PM EDT
He's probably fine with Israel's border security policies yet wants us to have none of that.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:01:15 PM EDT
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How is Trump's position different than Rubio or ¡Yeb!'s?
I'm surprised you support Trump. His stated position on bulk metadata collection isn't very ARF-Somalian.
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Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:
"I'm not just saying that you know since Paris, I'm saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you what to know the truth," said Trump. "It's pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security."

Hewitt followed up, "So you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?"

"I think that would be fine, as far as I'm concerned. That would be fine," explained Trump.

“I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.”


TDS

How is Trump's position different than Rubio or ¡Yeb!'s?
I'm surprised you support Trump. His stated position on bulk metadata collection isn't very ARF-Somalian.


Because Trump is edgy and tells the media to FOAD. Simple as that.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:03:40 PM EDT
What a pair of losers.



Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:05:03 PM EDT
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Cruz also supports spying on Americans.  D'oh.

http://rare.us/story/ted-cruz-who-voted-to-reauthorize-the-patriot-act-jabs-rand-paul-over-the-nsa/
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Originally Posted By Matt_F:
Ted Cruz is my response to this


Originally Posted By searchin4shacks:
Cruz in 16!!


Cruz also supports spying on Americans.  D'oh.

http://rare.us/story/ted-cruz-who-voted-to-reauthorize-the-patriot-act-jabs-rand-paul-over-the-nsa/


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