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Posted: 10/23/2010 2:36:04 PM EDT
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:37:35 PM EDT
Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:37:39 PM EDT
I thought they'd be the last ones to do something like this.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:37:57 PM EDT
Never made sense to me why their not like the Swiss!
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:39:05 PM EDT
That's some serious What The Heck right there.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:39:54 PM EDT
NFW
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:42:37 PM EDT
No link.



Can't get a thing on google....absolutely nothing on hunting licenses.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:42:43 PM EDT
They have some pretty atrocious gun control in Israel...which makes absolutely no sense.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:43:25 PM EDT
They giving a reason for this insanity?
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:46:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.


Why is this surprising?  The Zionist movement was always left wing socialist.  Their true colors had to come through eventually.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:47:08 PM EDT
My rifle was lost in a tragic boating accident.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:49:14 PM EDT




Originally Posted By AlvinYork:

They giving a reason for this insanity?




I'm texting back and forth with him now.  He says that the govt thinks that the army and police are enough to provide for security of the people (where have we heard that before...).



Apparently competitive shooters can still own under certain conditions, everyone else has to turn their's in when their rifle license expires.  My buddy has had his for 35 years.  Crazy.  Just got the letter apparently.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:49:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 2:49:37 PM EDT by xm177e2687]
Originally Posted By CommoMan:

Why is this surprising?  The Zionist movement was always left wing socialist.  Their true colors had to come through eventually.


Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:50:52 PM EDT
So are they going to?
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:52:40 PM EDT
time to buy a boat.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:53:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 3:00:49 PM EDT by _DR]
Even Russia has always had legal hunting, even during the Soviet era.

Confiscating shotguns? Never seen that, not even in UK albeit a license is required.

This is why gun registration is a very bad thing. Sounds kind of fishy though...
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:53:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hobbsar:
My rifle was lost in a tragic boating accident.


If you lost your rifle in the dead sea, it might just float to the top.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:53:54 PM EDT
They have some very odd gun laws there.  I don't get it myself.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:54:26 PM EDT
Hmm....nothing in the news and it just doesn't make sense.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:56:39 PM EDT
What is it with parlamentary style governments and their disdain for guns?

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Link Posted: 10/23/2010 2:57:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 3:00:21 PM EDT by Baldmonk]
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.


Calling BS on this one.

Wife has alot of relatives in Isreal who are rabid gun owners. I am sure I would have heard something.

Gun licenses are guaranteed to all citizens on demand. If a citizen asks for one, the government has to issue. No ability to deny.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:01:21 PM EDT



Originally Posted By foxxnhound:


What is it with parlamentary style governments and their disdain for guns?



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Unlike the US, democracies in most parts of the world are NOT based upon strong personal liberties. Constitutions are not very concrete and unchangeable and personal liberties are much more fluid. When a government becomes self aware, it starts caring for it's survival and status quo more than anything else. Personal weapons are THE first thing to go then.





 
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:07:48 PM EDT




Originally Posted By _DR:

Even Russia has always had legal hunting, even during the Soviet era.



Confiscating shotguns? Never seen that, not even in UK albeit a license is required.



This is why gun registration is a very bad thing. Sounds kind of fishy though...




I've known they guy forever.  He wouldn't make this shit up.

Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:10:10 PM EDT
they also just banned fur. Not a surprise if they stopped giving out hunting licenses, too.


GR
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:11:10 PM EDT




Originally Posted By Baldmonk:



Originally Posted By rca2222:

My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there). Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer. Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either. So far no mention that they are taking away handguns. Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.




Calling BS on this one.



Wife has alot of relatives in Isreal who are rabid gun owners. I am sure I would have heard something.



Gun licenses are guaranteed to all citizens on demand. If a citizen asks for one, the government has to issue. No ability to deny.


Have her reach out to them and ask.  What I'm being told is that they are doing it by simply not renewing rifle licenses.  You get a letter close to your expiration telling you that you won't be renewed.  Word is the permit-on-demand thing went away years ago.



Oddly, pistols have not been mentioned.

Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:12:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.


Calling BS on this one.

Wife has alot of relatives in Isreal who are rabid gun owners. I am sure I would have heard something.

Gun licenses are guaranteed to all citizens on demand. If a citizen asks for one, the government has to issue. No ability to deny.


I'd like to hear more too. If it is true my respect for Israel just took a huge nose-dive.

Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:13:41 PM EDT
Sounds like bullshit.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:16:36 PM EDT
If you license something it can be taken away — an inalienable right, can not.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:18:36 PM EDT




Originally Posted By PhatForrest:

I thought they'd be the last ones to do something like this to their own country.




Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:18:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By xm177e2687:
Originally Posted By CommoMan:

Why is this surprising?  The Zionist movement was always left wing socialist.  Their true colors had to come through eventually.




Not a troll statement.  The original settlements in Israel were kibbutzes.  They were literally communes.  The original Zionist movement (i.e. return to the homeland, not "evil Jew elders" BS) was deeply committed to communist ideals.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:21:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By monkeymagic:
Sounds like bullshit.


And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:24:26 PM EDT
Looks like liberal Jews from the US have invaded.



Next up, offers of land for peace.



Oh wait.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:29:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slug-O:
Originally Posted By monkeymagic:
Sounds like bullshit.


And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...


The OP is a Troll.

Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:32:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.


Fools.  It is amazing how men will purchase their own failure.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:34:34 PM EDT
I don't think so....Been Israel many times during my years as a inflight Marshall,The Israel Government guarantees, almost insist they keep weapons.  Most of the military age group MUST keep their weapons at home.  It is also lawful to carry automatic weapons in certain areas. So this Is BS!
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 3:39:21 PM EDT by ObsoleteMan]
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:

The OP is a Troll.

Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.


THIS JUST GOT GOOD! Documents, links or references to support either side?
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:41:07 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Baldmonk:



Originally Posted By Slug-O:


Originally Posted By monkeymagic:

Sounds like bullshit.




And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...




The OP is a Troll.



Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.



Thanks for the legwork.
 
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:49:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 3:49:54 PM EDT by Baldmonk]
Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:

The OP is a Troll.

Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.


THIS JUST GOT GOOD! Documents, links or references to support either side?


OP has none.... I had the wife make a call.

See if you can find anything on the net to support the OP's claims. Something like the OP claims would be all over the news.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:49:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 3:52:35 PM EDT by HeliBoy]
OP please provide a link etc to verify your claim.

My very good friend states the EXACT OPPOSITE!! She has lived in Israel for nearly fifteen years, and I just spoke with her 10 minutes ago!!

Otherwise I have to call.


Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:51:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.




More amazing to start disarming a people who were disarmed at one time and turned out to be a really bad move.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 3:58:07 PM EDT
Sounds like B.S., you know after that whole thing with Germany.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:00:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By brucers99:
They have some pretty atrocious gun control in Israel...which makes absolutely no sense.


Heard this today when I was at the range. Someone was talking about it and I was quite shocked.

It's never good to hear of people a piece of their freedom.

God knows we've seen enough of it here.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:02:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By foxxnhound:
What is it with parlamentary style governments and their disdain for guns?

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Fear
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:04:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 4:05:02 PM EDT by Baldmonk]
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By brucers99:
They have some pretty atrocious gun control in Israel...which makes absolutely no sense.


Heard this today when I was at the range. Someone was talking about it and I was quite shocked.

It's never good to hear of people a piece of their freedom.

God knows we've seen enough of it here.


Considering the wife's uncle carries a full auto micro Uzi on his hip everywhere he goes (including work) I would say they are far more liberal than the US. The ignorance is strong in this thread. He is just an Engineer, and not some military / police type.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:05:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:
Originally Posted By Slug-O:
Originally Posted By monkeymagic:
Sounds like bullshit.


And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...


The OP is a Troll.

Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.


Things just took a turn for the better

Bizarre that I heard the same thing at our range today though.   Israel banning guns??  Seemed odd somehow.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:08:09 PM EDT




Originally Posted By xm177e2687:



Originally Posted By CommoMan:



Why is this surprising? The Zionist movement was always left wing socialist. Their true colors had to come through eventually.






There's no troll in that post.  You do understand that Zionism was / is the political movement focused on the return of Jews to Israel and the establishment of a Jewish state in Israel?



You might want to do a little research into Zionism, its ideological roots and political philosophy, and the actual political organization of the State of Israel.



Israel is a very "progressive" 'Social Democrat' socialist country and always has been.  They have always had (since the end of the War of Independence) extremely tight gun control.



Americans have a great number of misconceptions about Israel.  Its not a place any American other than a far-left Democrat or socialist / Marxist would want to live.

Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:12:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rca2222:

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
They giving a reason for this insanity?


I'm texting back and forth with him now.  He says that the govt thinks that the army and police are enough to provide for security of the people (where have we heard that before...).

Apparently competitive shooters can still own under certain conditions, everyone else has to turn their's in when their rifle license expires.  My buddy has had his for 35 years.  Crazy.  Just got the letter apparently.


Really great to see that they have a death wish. What are they going to do when the shithead/towel heads amongst them start massacring them?
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:13:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:
Originally Posted By rca2222:
My friend in Haifa just received a letter from the govt there, as did his father (both veterans as most men are there).  Orders to turn in their rifles - without compensation - to their local gun dealer.  Apparently there will be no more hunting permits allowed either.  So far no mention that they are taking away handguns.  Amazing in a country surrounded and infiltrated by enemies.


Calling BS on this one.

Wife has alot of relatives in Isreal who are rabid gun owners. I am sure I would have heard something.

Gun licenses are guaranteed to all citizens on demand. If a citizen asks for one, the government has to issue. No ability to deny.


How about emailing them and asking them about it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:13:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 4:14:44 PM EDT by rca2222]




Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:



Originally Posted By Baldmonk:



Originally Posted By Slug-O:



Originally Posted By monkeymagic:

Sounds like bullshit.




And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...




The OP is a Troll.



Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.





Things just took a turn for the better



Bizarre that I heard the same thing at our range today though. Israel banning guns?? Seemed odd somehow.


The OP is not a troll...just repeated something from a friend there whom I trust. I spent the last hour trying to find anything about it and struck out, so the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned.



As far as the troll comment, I have a hard time believing that Baldmonk's wife called her relatives at 0200 to ask such a question. I guess maybe they're night owls. Because it's 0200, I'm not on the phone with they guy who told me.

Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:15:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sterling18:
Looks like liberal Jews from the US have invaded.

Next up, offers of land for peace.

Oh wait.


This was exactly my thought too.
Link Posted: 10/23/2010 4:18:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2010 4:23:13 PM EDT by Baldmonk]
Originally Posted By rca2222:

Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Baldmonk:
Originally Posted By Slug-O:
Originally Posted By monkeymagic:
Sounds like bullshit.


And a community organizer will be prez. Of the united states some day too... Bullshit I say... Oh wait...


The OP is a Troll.

Wife just called and they said the exact opposite, the are making even easier to get guns after west bank attacks. The citizens are now getting a license without a police background check as long as you are a citizen.


Things just took a turn for the better

Bizarre that I heard the same thing at our range today though. Israel banning guns?? Seemed odd somehow.

The OP is not a troll...just repeated something from a friend there whom I trust. I spent the last hour trying to find anything about it and struck out, so the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned.

As far as the troll comment, I have a hard time believing that Baldmonk's wife called her relatives at 0200 to ask such a question. I guess maybe they're night owls. Because it's 0200, I'm not on the phone with they guy who told me.


Wife's uncle is near 70, sleeps about 3 hours a night. They talk by voice thru the puter. Her family is very talkative over the net, since they are all over the world. All of his brothers (including wife's father) are here in the US except the one that moved back to Germany.
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