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Posted: 5/23/2003 5:57:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:05:36 AM EDT
about time. maybe they can rig em to drop bombs on illegal border crossers.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:08:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By redray: about time. maybe they can rig em to drop bombs on illegal border crossers.
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Beat me to it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:36:00 AM EDT
Here's a news flash for Tom and everyone else: We've been using them for years on the border, just not on a frequent basis. USBP tested them in the early 1990s in New Mexico. Even the Gnat (early version of Predator) got a workout. Do some news searches. It's out there. Jim
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 7:05:38 AM EDT
Great, it's about time. But someone please notify me before they start flying over (or through) US cities... [peep]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 7:43:24 AM EDT
It's a start. Although I'd prefer unmanned and heavily armed. Sling a couple .30 machine guns under the wings and you're in business.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:48:12 AM EDT
Yup, great to hear, but I'd also like to hear that they are going to vigorously pursue, arrest and rapidly deport anyone found crossing illegally. I’ll bet that this turns into another “observe and record” type fire drill. The USBP seems intent on doing its job. The INS, when it comes to actually following through and getting the illegals prosecuted and deported is where the system fails. Ain’t gonna amount to a hill of beans if we don’t have the political will to enforce the laws and put enough manpower on the ground to end this overt invasion of our country.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 9:14:08 AM EDT
Hmmmm after reading this thread [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=187782[/url] it makes you wonder which side of the border they will be watching the most. Arm them and wack anything that comes across the line thats not at a checkpoint. Hell put them on both borders as far as that goes.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 2:42:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gopher: Hmmmm after reading this thread [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=187782[/url] it makes you wonder which side of the border they will be watching the most. Arm them and wack anything that comes across the line thats not at a checkpoint. Hell put them on both borders as far as that goes.
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You'll be killing unarmed women and children. Sorry just kidding. Seriously, in Calif. on the US 5 Fwy to San Diego, there are a whole bunch of highway signs warning of people(men, women, & children) running across the freeway espciallay at night. And of course a few get hit.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 2:53:43 PM EDT
Took 'em long enough. Haven't plain old civilians been doing this already?
Originally Posted By Airwolf: Yup, great to hear, but I'd also like to hear that they are going to vigorously pursue, arrest and rapidly deport anyone found crossing illegally.
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Good point, but I think we need to do something more vigorous then simply deporting them in order to discourage illegal immigration. Maybe lock them up for a couple of months or so. Anything but sending them back home to try again tomorrow.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 3:04:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By warlord:
Originally Posted By Gopher: Hmmmm after reading this thread [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=187782[/url] it makes you wonder which side of the border they will be watching the most. Arm them and wack anything that comes across the line thats not at a checkpoint. Hell put them on both borders as far as that goes.
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You'll be killing unarmed women and children. Sorry just kidding. Seriously, in Calif. on the US 5 Fwy to San Diego, there are a whole bunch of highway signs warning of people(men, women, & children) running across the freeway espciallay at night. And of course a few get hit.
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I was in traffic school one time and the old-time CHP officer that was teaching it told a story about those signs. Seems that when they first put them up there was a whole bunch of illegals getting hit as they tried to cross I-5 to avoid the checkpoint. The ones that didn't buy the farm were asked why they tried to cross when they had seen the signs. They told officials they thought the illustration meant, in so many words, "you need to grab everyone and run like hell in order to make it across". Seems that a lot of them coming from rural Mexico had never seen cars moving a freeway speeds. In that section AVERAGE speeds are near 80. They couldn't judge the closing rates based on their experience and thought it would take longer for the cars to reach them. After that they put "peligro" on the signs along with the illustration of a man, woman and child running... Well, the child is actually being yanked along behind the woman...
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 3:11:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Originally Posted By warlord:
Originally Posted By Gopher: Hmmmm after reading this thread [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=187782[/url] it makes you wonder which side of the border they will be watching the most. Arm them and wack anything that comes across the line thats not at a checkpoint. Hell put them on both borders as far as that goes.
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You'll be killing unarmed women and children. Sorry just kidding. Seriously, in Calif. on the US 5 Fwy to San Diego, there are a whole bunch of highway signs warning of people(men, women, & children) running across the freeway espciallay at night. And of course a few get hit.
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I was in traffic school one time and the old-time CHP officer that was teaching it told a story about those signs. Seems that when they first put them up there was a whole bunch of illegals getting hit as they tried to cross I-5 to avoid the checkpoint. The ones that didn't buy the farm were asked why they tried to cross when they had seen the signs. They told officials they thought the illustration meant, in so many words, "you need to grab everyone and run like hell in order to make it across". Seems that a lot of them coming from rural Mexico had never seen cars moving a freeway speeds. In that section AVERAGE speeds are near 80. They couldn't judge the closing rates based on their experience and thought it would take longer for the cars to reach them. After that they put "peligro" on the signs along with the illustration of a man, woman and child running... Well, the child is actually being yanked along behind the woman...
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Hmmm.. Interesting story I didn't know that. I can believe the speeds on the I-5 freeway, I was on in the furtherest right lane(lane #4 or 5) and I was gong 70MPH just to keep up with traffic and significant number of vehicles passed me at 75+MPH. When you're going 70+MPH it doesn't take very long to cover a lot of real estate. I have never seen anybody cross the highway, but if they get hit, man show's pretty over. The drones could actually reduce the number of people killed on the I-5 by getting them away from crossing over the the freeway.
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