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Posted: 2/13/2017 12:39:04 PM EDT


WASHINGTON, D.C. (NBC News) — The U.S. Army says Former Maj. General Ronald Lewis will be demoted and retire as a brigadier general after he used a government credit card to pay for bills at strip clubs in Rome and South Korea.

Cynthia Smith, a spokeswoman for the Army, told NBC News the Pentagon’s inspector general was able to verify that Lewis — who was the senior military assistant to former Defense Secretary Ash Carter — will be bumped down to brigadier general because he charged the government for his visits to the strip clubs, made false statements and “engaged in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman on multiple occasions.”

Lewis had reached the three-star rank of lieutenant general, but he was demoted to major general when Carter fired him more than a year ago after an investigation uncovered that Lewis had misused a government credit card and had become involved in an extramarital relationship.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/02/10/retired-3-star-general-demoted-for-using-government-credit-cards-at-strip-clubs/
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 12:51:45 PM EDT
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I'm retired, but my employer would've pressed charges. I guess rank really does have its privileges.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 12:57:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Don't fire the man.  If he keeps it up, he can retire at a private's salary.  That would save the taxpayer a lot of ducats.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:03:11 PM EDT
[#3]
diversity is our greatest strength.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:05:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Hanging out with Upgrayedd. 

You see, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square's
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:05:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Worth it!
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:07:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Of course the lying and conduct is the biggest issue.

But the funny thing about the GTCC (Gov credit cards) is that they're in your name anyway. It's not like the government was going to pay it off. The card holder is still 100% responsible for it.

Stupid move still.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:09:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Always check what the company name is on the receipts before ordering with your company credit card.

Strip clubs in some cities have steak restaurant names on their receipts to avoid these compromising situations.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:12:24 PM EDT
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Yes only "diverse" dudes do dumb shit.

Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:14:06 PM EDT
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But the funny thing about the GTCC (Gov credit cards) is that they're in your name anyway. It's not like the government was going to pay it off. The card holder is still 100% responsible for it.

Stupid move still.
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Not mine. Charges direct to the gov. Travel cards on the other hand do like you say.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:15:23 PM EDT
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WASHINGTON, D.C. (NBC News) — The U.S. Army says Former Maj. General Ronald Lewis will be demoted and retire as a brigadier general after he used a government credit card to pay for bills at strip clubs in Rome and South Korea.

Cynthia Smith, a spokeswoman for the Army, told NBC News the Pentagon’s inspector general was able to verify that Lewis — who was the senior military assistant to former Defense Secretary Ash Carter — will be bumped down to brigadier general because he charged the government for his visits to the strip clubs, made false statements and “engaged in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman on multiple occasions.”

Lewis had reached the three-star rank of lieutenant general, but he was demoted to major general when Carter fired him more than a year ago after an investigation uncovered that Lewis had misused a government credit card and had become involved in an extramarital relationship.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/02/10/retired-3-star-general-demoted-for-using-government-credit-cards-at-strip-clubs/
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Maybe that's why he was spending time at the gentleman's club? How else do you learn?!
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:15:38 PM EDT
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I always used cash at the strip clubs when I worked for the Government.  
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:16:56 PM EDT
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Just thought of it.  Strippers and blow means he must be an Arfcommer.  What's his screen name?  
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:17:58 PM EDT
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Wow, senior advisor to Sec of Def,  What a dumb mother fucker
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:19:59 PM EDT
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LOL
There's a fine example of the kind of integrity I would like to see with any employees.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:20:04 PM EDT
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Whoop. There it is.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:22:37 PM EDT
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One I used to frequent printed out "XYZ Sports Bar" on the receipt. 
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:34:18 PM EDT
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If it goes to an Article 15, he can turn it down for a court-martial.  Which must consist of officers (1) senior in rank and (2) same rank but senior in date-of-rank.  Which can be quite painful to do for a 3-star or even 2-star general on trial.

Whereas demoting him to the last grade at which he honorably served is quicker, faster, less painful, potentially removes just as much if not more pay from him via retiring at a lower grade, plus the greatly diminished prospects of employment as a retired GO in the defense industry or private sector.

You want to hurt a man, REALLY hurt a man?  Take stars away and say "now youse can't be a Major General."  I knew a BG who was reduced to LTC in retirement because of shenanigans he allegedly did as a COL which were investigated and "confirmed" after he made BG.  That is one bitter fucking man right there.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:39:30 PM EDT
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Not mine. Charges direct to the gov. Travel cards on the other hand do like you say.
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But the funny thing about the GTCC (Gov credit cards) is that they're in your name anyway. It's not like the government was going to pay it off. The card holder is still 100% responsible for it.

Stupid move still.


Not mine. Charges direct to the gov. Travel cards on the other hand do like you say.


Ah, I assumed GTCC, maybe not the case.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:40:10 PM EDT
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Dude should have just drawn out $300 at an ATM then gone to the strip club. He needs DTS training.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:45:04 PM EDT
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Guess you don't have to smart to get that high.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:45:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2017 1:57:22 PM EDT
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Not being .mil, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that a Lt. General is a higher rank than a Maj. General. 
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:00:55 PM EDT
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Of course the lying and conduct is the biggest issue.

But the funny thing about the GTCC (Gov credit cards) is that they're in your name anyway. It's not like the government was going to pay it off. The card holder is still 100% responsible for it.
Stupid move still.
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That is why I never got a GTCC.  Since I was going to have to pay the bills anyway, why risk using the wrong card at the wrong place?  I can see a SJW at the finance office deciding Hooters is a strip club that demeans women.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:01:30 PM EDT
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I was in the military but its still confusing to me too.  Its like when you get to the General ranks, they turn backwards.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:07:00 PM EDT
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The "booty" made me do it.....
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:07:05 PM EDT
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I thought I could only use that card for fuel, motels, and airline flights.....  you mean to tell me strip club took that card........Damn   I missed out.....

I would of  had a good excuse ,  as a Medic I could of called it anatomy training
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:07:55 PM EDT
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I saw a historical explanation for this but have no idea if it's legit.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:08:28 PM EDT
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That is why I never got a GTCC.  Since I was going to have to pay the bills anyway, why risk using the wrong card at the wrong place?  I can see a SJW at the finance office deciding Hooters is a strip club that demeans women.
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Of course the lying and conduct is the biggest issue.

But the funny thing about the GTCC (Gov credit cards) is that they're in your name anyway. It's not like the government was going to pay it off. The card holder is still 100% responsible for it.
Stupid move still.

That is why I never got a GTCC.  Since I was going to have to pay the bills anyway, why risk using the wrong card at the wrong place?  I can see a SJW at the finance office deciding Hooters is a strip club that demeans women.



It's mandatory now such a fucking scam.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:12:39 PM EDT
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That guy skipped at least 2 safety briefs. I blame his 1SG
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:13:34 PM EDT
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If he's retired, why the hell does he have a gov credit card in the first place?
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:14:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:14:44 PM EDT
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He was a fast-tracker. He was a LTC in 2005 when I worked with him briefly. He seemed pretty damn sharp.

Those stars must have made him lose his common sense.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:17:28 PM EDT
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He should have classified the expenses as "Team Building" exercises.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:19:12 PM EDT
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You can take the brother out of the hood.....
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:21:27 PM EDT
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Hanging out with Upgrayedd. 

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"Hamel! Stick to the technicals."

Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:22:20 PM EDT
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No diversity here-just an everyday self-entitled asshole..
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:24:54 PM EDT
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He was a fast-tracker. He was a LTC in 2005 when I worked with him briefly. He seemed pretty damn sharp.

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no.

getting min tig'd promoted every time made him think he was untouchable and infallible.  common in certain groups.
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I thought he was referring to the diversity of rank itself....
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:32:49 PM EDT
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I wonder if he's stripper-blocked himself out of his sweet post-service contractor gig.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:33:05 PM EDT
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1.  Unfortunately, if you do a lot of travel, the GTCC is MANDATED and you are required to use it for airlines, rental cars and hotels (usually the big ticket items) as the .mil gets the payback from the vendor od the 1%-2% per purchase for using the card..

2.  The derivation of the ranks of General, much like the differences in Colonels comes from the French phrase Lieu Tenans which basically means "to stand in the place of",  thus a lieutenant colonel "stands in the place" of the colonel from the days of when a colonel commanded a regiment, the lieutenant colonel would be the assistant and stand in when the colonel was absent.  For the General ranks, the Brigadier General would command a brigade, the major general was next up higher rank (Major meaning important) and the lieutenant general (3-star) would stand in for the general or assist the General (who is a 4-star in the US).  Liken it to the Navy where there is a Commander (Army Lieutenant Colonel) and a Lieutenant Commander (Army Major).  Now don't even get me started on the derivations of the ranks Major and Sergeant Major.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:36:01 PM EDT
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1.  Unfortunately, if you do a lot of travel, the GTCC is MANDATED and you are required to use it for airlines, rental cars and hotels (usually the big ticket items) as the .mil gets the payback from the vendor od the 1%-2% per purchase for using the card..

2.  The derivation of the ranks of General, much like the differences in Colonels comes from the French phrase Lieu Tenans which basically means "to stand in the place of",  thus a lieutenant colonel "stands in the place" of the colonel from the days of when a colonel commanded a regiment, the lieutenant colonel would be the assistant and stand in when the colonel was absent.  For the General ranks, the Brigadier General would command a brigade, the major general was next up higher rank (Major meaning important) and the lieutenant general (3-star) would stand in for the general or assist the General (who is a 4-star in the US).  Liken it to the Navy where there is a Commander (Army Lieutenant Colonel) and a Lieutenant Commander (Army Major).  Now don't even get me started on the derivations of the ranks Major and Sergeant Major.
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1. I've seen guys get orders canx lately due to not having a GTCC. Such bullshit.

2. That's interesting, I've never heard that history before. Thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Stars fall all the time.

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Probably with a few tears.
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:52:29 PM EDT
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General SaveAHo
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:55:19 PM EDT
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fake news
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:57:12 PM EDT
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Really?
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:57:29 PM EDT
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Right there with you SIR ()

Sigh.....
Link Posted: 2/13/2017 2:58:56 PM EDT
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Hmm after he retired they demote him.

So a guy a my company was fired last year. His father was on the board of directors of a very large client of ours so he was give a lot of leeway. However he was going onsite with other customers for sales and presentations. He always brought consultants with him. That was pretty common but as they digged and saw credit card reciepts for shopping sprees they realized they were basically boyfriends of his that were "consultants."  Also he was married to a woman
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