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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:11:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:11:52 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah.
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:12:15 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans.
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:13:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Awaiting full link. fixed now |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:14:17 AM EDT
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So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way?
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:14:27 AM EDT
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/repub-violent-overthrow-of-the-govt-is-on-the-table/
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:16:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:16:58 AM EDT
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Silly, everyone knows that the Second Amendment is all about our right to turkey hunt...
Right, Jari Askins? (Notorious Oklahoma lib-tard...One of only 5 state reps who voted AGAINST concealed carry, posing as a conservative...) 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:18:00 AM EDT
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So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way? Err.... This has already been done, in our history. Just sayin. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson A good reason not to rely on Thomas Jefferson. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:19:19 AM EDT
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What is amazing is that anybody believes that it is off the table.
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:20:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: What is amazing is that anybody believes that it is off the table. I'm not amazed that patriotism is more popular than "libertarianism." Why should it be amazing? |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:21:27 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election. 
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:21:39 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. 'Republican' is nothing but a four syllable word to your leftist ass anyways, so why would you pretend to be concerned? Fast_Jimmy or Azjms, haven't figured that one out yet... |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:22:50 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson A good reason not to rely on Thomas Jefferson. Clearly you've done more for America than he has, right? |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:23:45 AM EDT
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So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way? Err.... This has already been done, in our history. Just sayin. If you are referring to the Civil War, then yeah, ONCE in your history. Different time now. It would not remain internal. This country would be completely, utterly, and permanently lost. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:23:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. 'Republican' is nothing but a four syllable word to your leftist ass anyways, so why would you pretend to be concerned? Fast_Jimmy or Azjms, haven't figured that one out yet... I think Fast_Jimmy is a new one. Which is it? Dave-A, Azjms, Fast Jimmy, where will the merry go round end? Republican is the party I am proud to be a long time member of. And ashamed that this mope ape from Texas is allowed to disgrace with his anti-American unpatriotic noisemaking. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:26:55 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. why  because they see what the constitution says and they see what the "elected" officials in Washington are doing i'm NOT advocating revolution, but we haven't been represented in a long while. the system is broken, the 2 party system is broke, Washington is broken and no one is listening. i'll keep most of my thoughts to myself, i feel and see the frustration of the average American. pay checks that get smaller, everything is getting more expensive, health care going up roughly 17% for my family. where does it stop there are so many questions and NO ONE wants to handle the hard answers, no one wants to offend the "always offended". serious question here, when is it time to tar and feather politians and force change does voting in a buch of republicans really change anything, they haven't listened in decades, why start now
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:27:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. why because they see what the constitution says and they see what the "elected" officials in Washington are doing i'm NOT advocating revolution, but we haven't been represented in a long while. the system is broken, the 2 party system is broke, Washington is broken and no one is listening. i'll keep most of my thoughts to myself, i feel and see the frustration of the average American. pay checks that get smaller, everything is getting more expensive, health care going up roughly 17% for my family. where does it stop there are so many questions and NO ONE wants to handle the hard answers, no one wants to offend the "always offended". serious question here, when is it time to tar and feather politians and force change does voting in a buch of republicans really change anything, they haven't listened in decades, why start nowI think your screen name explains your position pretty clearly. It means "assassinate politicians." |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:27:59 AM EDT
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So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way? Err.... This has already been done, in our history. Just sayin. If you are referring to the Civil War, then yeah, ONCE in your history. Different time now. It would not remain internal. This country would be completely, utterly, and permanently lost. No. Was referring to the Revolutionary war. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:28:27 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson thanks for posting this, this is what i was thinking about on my other post |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:30:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way? Err.... This has already been done, in our history. Just sayin. If you are referring to the Civil War, then yeah, ONCE in your history. Different time now. It would not remain internal. This country would be completely, utterly, and permanently lost. No. Was referring to the Revolutionary war. Is there some election you imagine the Revolutionary War was fought over? I suppose you should be told that the war was fought over the absence of elections. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:30:20 AM EDT
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So, we can be like so many turd world shitholes and stage a coup if elections don't go our way? Err.... This has already been done, in our history. Just sayin. If you are referring to the Civil War, then yeah, ONCE in your history. Different time now. It would not remain internal. This country would be completely, utterly, and permanently lost. No. Was referring to the Revolutionary war. Not even close to what I said. The King was not elected. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:31:41 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Those is fighting words to a heavily centralized, bearuacratic, authoritarian type government ( even though our founders expressed this concept profoundly, over and over again). |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:33:37 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~Thomas Jefferson A good reason not to rely on Thomas Jefferson. Would have been considered a radicalized terrorist in today's age. 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:34:43 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. if our founding fathers had this mindset we would still be under British rule, blood was shed in our revolution for a great cause, the cause-the United States of America. our founding fathers did not come from some African nation/ banana republic. i believe that trying to turn thing around by voting is the right and the first steps to changing things here in the U.S. but after voting has failed over and over, then what
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:37:14 AM EDT
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Its always on the table.
2nd amendment. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:37:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election. That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. if our founding fathers had this mindset we would still be under British rule, blood was shed in our revolution for a great cause, the cause-the United States of America. our founding fathers did not come from some African nation/ banana republic. i believe that trying to turn thing around by voting is the right and the first steps to changing things here in the U.S. but after voting has failed over and over, then what No, we wouldn't. You see, what he posted was "Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election." and if you'd read it or understood what it meant, and if you had a basic understanding of American history, you wouldn't have posted what you did. I suppose while you were admiring Lee Harvey Oswald, you missed the lesson about how there weren't free elections when we were ruled by the King. We fought a war so that we could have free elections. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:37:33 AM EDT
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Our revolt against the Crown WAS Non-Violent until King George III made it violent.
Same happened during the great secession before the Civil War. Government (the Union) instigated the violence. Governments, when threatened, WILL kill. The same would happen today. Peaceful secession of a state? Prepare to get bombed. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:37:48 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Unless the outcome of the election is swayed significantly by voter fraud........................... Quoted:
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. 'Republican' is nothing but a four syllable word to your leftist ass anyways, so why would you pretend to be concerned? Fast_Jimmy or Azjms, haven't figured that one out yet... I think it might really be Azmjs back from the grave. Either way, I won't give this guy more than six months before he's gone. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:38:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election. That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Unless the outcome of the election swayed significantly by voter fraud........................... Are you one of those people who piss and moan about the "evil Diebold machines" ? |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:40:40 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thank God Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Republican 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:40:40 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. if our founding fathers had this mindset we would still be under British rule, blood was shed in our revolution for a great cause, the cause-the United States of America. our founding fathers did not come from some African nation/ banana republic. i believe that trying to turn thing around by voting is the right and the first steps to changing things here in the U.S. but after voting has failed over and over, then what Gonna have to agree. In my mind it is never off the table. Unlikely sure, but as long as we are armed, then it's not off the table. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:40:47 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. if our founding fathers had this mindset we would still be under British rule, blood was shed in our revolution for a great cause, the cause-the United States of America. our founding fathers did not come from some African nation/ banana republic. i believe that trying to turn thing around by voting is the right and the first steps to changing things here in the U.S. but after voting has failed over and over, then what Sorry, the revolution was not the result of not liking the outcome of an election. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:42:03 AM EDT
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He must be that Texas guy on the Simpson's....or his twin.
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:42:19 AM EDT
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Revolution by raw force is ALWAYS an option that is on the table, if the people truly believe in freedom and the right to self-determination,
and that their government must serve THEM, and not that they must serve their government. CJ |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:42:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thank God Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Republican We later learned that the best way to water the tree of liberty is with the blood of foreign tyrants. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:43:29 AM EDT
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Our revolt against the Crown WAS Non-Violent until King George III made it violent. Same happened during the great secession before the Civil War. Government (the Union) instigated the violence. Governments, when threatened, WILL kill. The same would happen today. Peaceful secession of a state? Prepare to get bombed. Coating a guy in hot tar and covering him in feathers is in fact a violent act. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:43:53 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Unless the outcome of the election is swayed significantly by voter fraud........................... Evidence of that is already cropping up in the early voting and voting registrations. 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:45:17 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Unless the outcome of the election swayed significantly by voter fraud........................... Are you one of those people who piss and moan about the "evil Diebold machines" ? No, but with the NBPP members not being charged with voter intimidation for their action during the 2008 election, "community organizer" groups like Acorn still very much alive, and the Soros funded Secretary of State project, I would say it's a very real possibility that we'll see an unprecedented level of voter fraud in the coming elections. You of course already know this, but don't let that try and stop you from deflecting attention from the real issues. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:47:21 AM EDT
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Violence is only the answer when the government ignores the will of the people. The people voted for Obama and got exactly what they voted for. If they vote for him again, then they'll get exactly what they voted for again. Love it or hate it, that's what you get when you live in majority rule country.
Until someone is voted out of office and refuses relinquish power to his successors, violence is NOT on the table. Get your heads unfucked people. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:47:23 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Unless the outcome of the election is swayed significantly by voter fraud........................... Quoted:
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. 'Republican' is nothing but a four syllable word to your leftist ass anyways, so why would you pretend to be concerned? Fast_Jimmy or Azjms, haven't figured that one out yet... I think it might really be Azmjs back from the grave. Either way, I won't give this guy more than six months before he's gone. 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:49:12 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. if our founding fathers had this mindset we would still be under British rule, blood was shed in our revolution for a great cause, the cause-the United States of America. our founding fathers did not come from some African nation/ banana republic. i believe that trying to turn thing around by voting is the right and the first steps to changing things here in the U.S. but after voting has failed over and over, then what Sorry dude, not to nit pick, but this is civics FAIL. The "glorious cause" was always liberty. The Union was a secondary consideration, and the United States as we know it, didn't exist for years after the revolution. Many of the founders would have no problem dismantling the union if it meant the preservation of liberty. The United States in and of herself is not the great thing to be protected and cherished, it is liberty. The Union be damned if we must forego liberty just so we can continue to have a central government. in 1801, Edmund Pendelton was already writing letters to the newly appointed president, T. Jefferson, that we needed to have a Constitutional convention and "fix" the damage that the Federalist had done! (Sound Familiar) He warned in detail of all that we would face today. "These changes will be a matter of tenfold congratulation if we make the proper use of them: If, instead of negligently reposing upon that wisdom and integrity which have already softened even political malice, we seize an opportunity to erect new barriers against folly, fraud, and ambition; and to explain such parts of the Constitution as have been already, or may be, interpreted contrary to the intention of those who adopted it." The Constitution is not the Holy Grail. The United States is not the Holy Grail. Liberty is. "The chief good derivable from government is civil liberty; and if government is so constructed as to enable its administration to assail that liberty with the several weapons heretofore most fatal to it, the structure is defective: of this sort, standing armies, fleets, severe penal laws, war, and a multitude of civil officers, are universally admitted to be; and if our government can, with ease and impunity, array those forces against social liberty, the Constitution is defective." |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:51:24 AM EDT
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I disagree with the use of the word overthrow.
That is what is being done to it now, and has been for some time. He should have said violence is on the table for correction or preservation of our government, form of government and our nation. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:51:54 AM EDT
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The Second Amendment isn't about hunting.
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:52:49 AM EDT
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Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election.
That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. Go back to DU, Troll! 
I fear with this thread, arfcom GD may have officially jumped the shark. I pray I am wrong. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:52:56 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. why because they see what the constitution says and they see what the "elected" officials in Washington are doing i'm NOT advocating revolution, but we haven't been represented in a long while. the system is broken, the 2 party system is broke, Washington is broken and no one is listening. i'll keep most of my thoughts to myself, i feel and see the frustration of the average American. pay checks that get smaller, everything is getting more expensive, health care going up roughly 17% for my family. where does it stop there are so many questions and NO ONE wants to handle the hard answers, no one wants to offend the "always offended". serious question here, when is it time to tar and feather politians and force change does voting in a buch of republicans really change anything, they haven't listened in decades, why start nowI think your screen name explains your position pretty clearly. It means "assassinate politicians." I can see both sides but ask yourself this question, how many would you actually shed a tear for. 
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:53:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Meh, so he says it's always on the table. The second amendment is not about self defense or hunting, so, yeah. Yeah, but NOT as a result of not liking the outcome of a free election. That kind of bullshit belongs in third-world shitholes in Africa and banana republics, not a country based on law and freedom. +1. Revolution over election results (fair and legal elections, obviously) is not justifiable. The government would have to do something egregiously illegal before an armed revolution would be the right thing to do. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 10:58:46 AM EDT
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It's a god damn disgrace that these people are allowed to call themselves Republicans. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thank God Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Republican We later learned that the best way to water the tree of liberty is with the blood of foreign tyrants. He wasn't a FOREIGN tyrant. He was the head of state and leader of the colonies. You sir are not that bright are you? Those "red coats" up until July 4th 1776 were fellow countrymen. Once the United States of America was firmly established after the Treaty of Paris in 1783 - American citizens deported the Royalist. I long for the day when the Rebublic is re-founded. |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 11:02:21 AM EDT
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Violence is only the answer when the government ignores the will of the people. The people voted for Obama and got exactly what they voted for. If they vote for him again, then they'll get exactly what they voted for again. Love it or hate it, that's what you get when you live in majority rule country. Until someone is voted out of office and refuses relinquish power to his successors, violence is NOT on the table. Get your heads unfucked people. When it gets to the point where WE the people are little more than indentured servants and our constitutional rights are trampled on freely the the Goverment...THEN its time for armed revolution. Wait...I think we are allready there. |
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