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Posted: 3/6/2015 9:10:09 AM EDT
Evidently Kerry has accepted the fact that Iran will have nuclear weapons.  This 'umbrella' would be intended to keep other Gulf countries from growing their own nuclear weapons.  



Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192178#.VPmkfOHaKld
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:12:15 AM EDT
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How about taking out their (Iran's) nuclear assets.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:12:41 AM EDT
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Horseface couldn't protect a baby from diaper rash.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:14:36 AM EDT
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How about talking about how we are going to use military power to destroy Iran's nuke program?

Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:15:29 AM EDT
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He's not fooling any of the countries. I suspect several are going to be spooling-up a nuke program in short order.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:15:40 AM EDT
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Israel will make the umbrella unnecessary.

I just don't think they are going to let this happen regardless of what the US says.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:16:38 AM EDT
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I bet we keep that umbrella in the lock box with all the social security money.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:16:45 AM EDT
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So, they found a way to make the whole situation even More Dangerous for US.    

facinating.  
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:17:13 AM EDT
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And I don't think there's anything they can do to stop it.

Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:17:23 AM EDT
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How did that work out for Ukraine?
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Basically, yes.


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Saudi Arabia funded Pakistan's nukes, and supposedly is a phone call away from having Pakistani warheads on their Chinese DF-3 IRBMs.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:22:38 AM EDT
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The Saudis bought Scuds in the mid 80s.  Oddly enough, the prepped launch sites for those weapons are in the northeast, much closer to Iran than Israel.  And about a year ago they openly talked about buying nukes from Pakistan to put on them if the US didn't do something about Iran.

So, yeah, already happening.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:29:15 AM EDT
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Evidently Kerry has accepted the fact that Iran will have nuclear weapons.  This 'umbrella' would be intended to keep other Gulf countries from growing their own nuclear weapons.  

Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192178#.VPmkfOHaKld
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Hum, guess obama's strongly worded email didn't work out to well. When the middle east is a glowing ash pile (might be an improvement, save Israel), we can all remember how the man child led the world to peace and better understanding.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:31:08 AM EDT
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I would be actively encouraging those guys to nuke each other. The oil will be a lot easier to find looking through glass...
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:33:31 AM EDT
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Came here to post that.

 
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:33:59 AM EDT
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So, wait a second, wait a second.

The Missile Defense Systems that Kerry as a Senator and Obama throughout his career has tried to kill will now be held up by them as a good thing for our allies?

Soooo, are they going to apologize for trying to kill a program that now seems very necessary?
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:38:07 AM EDT
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So, wait a second, wait a second.

The Missile Defense Systems that Kerry as a Senator and Obama throughout his career has tried to kill will now be held up by them as a good thing for our allies?

Soooo, are they going to apologize for trying to kill a program that now seems very necessary?
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Correct.

The mind of a 'tard is an amazing thing.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:39:48 AM EDT
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How about talking about how we are going to use military power to destroy Iran's nuke program?



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Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:54:18 AM EDT
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So, wait a second, wait a second.



The Missile Defense Systems that Kerry as a Senator and Obama throughout his career has tried to kill will now be held up by them as a good thing for our allies?



Soooo, are they going to apologize for trying to kill a program that now seems very necessary?
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Lol, Nice catch...



 

Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:55:20 AM EDT
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Edited: Just read missle defense...
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:55:57 AM EDT
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They should ask Ukraine how well the promise of US protection worked out for them.



Edit: or the guy that gave up Osama.  US Creditability is SHIT.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 9:57:30 AM EDT
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Evidently Kerry has accepted the fact that Iran will have nuclear weapons.  This 'umbrella' would be intended to keep other Gulf countries from growing their own nuclear weapons.  

Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192178#.VPmkfOHaKld
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FPNI, we have little credibility and liberal's treaty's are worse than the ones the Indians got.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:01:51 AM EDT
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There is no aspect of foreign policy which the democrats have put their hand do that hasn't become a complete cock-up. Every major foreign policy effort they have engaged in has turned into a disaster in one way or another.And it isn't like they're just not trying or are putting their rejects in charge of the effort; Hillary Clinton and John Kerry are people that they believe would make suitable presidents for fuck's sake.

Now we have disasters building upon disasters. This nuclear umbrella promise seems completely impotent because of the failure to form a strong response to Russia's aggression in Ukraine. Russia's aggression in Ukraine was emboldened by the "Reset Button" farce and promises of "more flexibility".

The gulf states would only be interested in being under the American nuclear umbrella in the first place because of the failure to deter or physically prevent Iran from achieving nuclear status. Israel, who should be America's natural ally in the region against Iran, is now essentially abandoned. Iraq, which had achieved a level of stability prior to the democrats assuming power, has fallen into utter anarchy and may soon be the site of a major regional war, perhaps even a nuclear one.

When armchair strategists the world over can quickly and easily point out fuck-up after fuck-up after fuck-up the problem goes beyond mere ineptitude. Even an idiot would've have gotten at least something right by now, merely by accident. So either the democrats are so ideologically blinded by their reletavatist revisionist dogma that they have left objective reality behind and are now creating policies based on some deranged internal fantasy world like Hitler ordering about phantom divisions during the fall of Berlin, or - or - everything is going according to plan. Which is certainly more terrifying.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:02:17 AM EDT
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Yeh.  Because under this administration the world has seen how reliable the US can be as an ally and protector.  Oh well, selfish political actions have consequences.  Hope they all say screw you Obama/ Kerry.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:02:56 AM EDT
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OFFS
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:04:08 AM EDT
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Ding ding ding!!!!

Go FO Rooster, go!!!
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:04:33 AM EDT
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Just like in Georga.

Ha ha ha ha
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:05:23 AM EDT
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The visit of Pakistan's Foreign Minister just prior to Kerry's arrival in Riyadh was not a coincidence. The Pakistani nuclear program will be very profitable, very soon.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:05:31 AM EDT
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The Saudis bought Scuds in the mid 80s.  Oddly enough, the prepped launch sites for those weapons are in the northeast, much closer to Iran than Israel.  And about a year ago they openly talked about buying nukes from Pakistan to put on them if the US didn't do something about Iran.

So, yeah, already happening.
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He's not fooling any of the countries. I suspect several are going to be spooling-up a nuke program in short order.


The Saudis bought Scuds in the mid 80s.  Oddly enough, the prepped launch sites for those weapons are in the northeast, much closer to Iran than Israel.  And about a year ago they openly talked about buying nukes from Pakistan to put on them if the US didn't do something about Iran.

So, yeah, already happening.


The Saudis have both DF-3 and DF-21 missiles.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:06:16 AM EDT
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Lol, Nice catch...
 


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So, wait a second, wait a second.

The Missile Defense Systems that Kerry as a Senator and Obama throughout his career has tried to kill will now be held up by them as a good thing for our allies?

Soooo, are they going to apologize for trying to kill a program that now seems very necessary?



Lol, Nice catch...
 





Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:13:53 AM EDT
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Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?
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There was never a promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians.

It was a promise to respect their sovereignty and not invade and a promise to not nuke them. Thats pretty much about it.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:15:10 AM EDT
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Everyone does realize that it was Obama that disarmed Ukraine...and has now sparked a new nuclear arm race in the ME....
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There was never a promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians.



It was a promise to respect their sovereignty and not invade and a promise to not nuke them. Thats pretty much about it.
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Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?


There was never a promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians.



It was a promise to respect their sovereignty and not invade and a promise to not nuke them. Thats pretty much about it.




Shh.. I have tried and tried. No one can read anymore.



 

Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:15:52 AM EDT
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There was no defense treaty.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:16:57 AM EDT
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Obama made them give up their nukes?

LOL
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How did that work out for Ukraine?


There was no defense treaty.


Then they are dumber than they look for giving up their nukes.
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Yup. Evidently they were as dumb as some folks here who thought it was an actual defense pact.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:22:12 AM EDT
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Then they are dumber than they look for giving up their nukes.
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How did that work out for Ukraine?

There was no defense treaty.

Then they are dumber than they look for giving up their nukes.



Given the high caliber of their leadership to date, thank God that they did.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:23:38 AM EDT
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Honestly, the only way this would ever happen would be by the hands of the Israelis and with the pencil necked, jug eared Kenyan fucktard in the White House, I believe he'd do everything within his power to keep them from doing this, including threatening to shoot down Israeli aircraft that would be assigned to carry out such a a mission if in fact an air campaign was their preferred method. Having said that, the Israelis could do some damage "on the ground" and the only thing Obama could do would be have his press secretary or that diesel dyke commie whore at the State Dept, release to the world, Israels plans to conduct such a mission, and he'd do that in a heartbeat, as he wants Iran to have nukes, it's painfully clear.


FUCK OBAMA, FUCK IRAN and FUCK Lurch
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I wonder how many would have been shipped off to the highest bidder had they kept them. Corruption is the norm in those places.

Still I hope Russia goes belly up over it.
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I'm amazed Obama and Kerry think they can shaft our allies while appeasing our enemies and then expect anyone to trust us.
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Go to your garage..........grab your sledge hammer..........hit yourself in the head real hard.................this will result in you momentarily thinking like a 'tard and it will all be more understandable.
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QFT.
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:37:12 AM EDT
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There was no defense treaty.
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There was no defense treaty.

Not true.  1994, we signed a trilateral security agreement with Ukraine that specifically said, "you can up your nukes because the US will protect you."
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:37:27 AM EDT
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Obama made them give up their nukes?

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Everyone does realize that it was Obama that disarmed Ukraine...and has now sparked a new nuclear arm race in the ME....

Obama made them give up their nukes?

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No...but he did negotiate the near complete disarmament of the country...leaving them defenseless...it was part of that hop skip and jumping around the world he did while gaining foreign policy experience in his lead up to running for POTUS...GOOGLE it...lots of good reading...
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:38:13 AM EDT
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There was never a promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians.



It was a promise to respect their sovereignty and not invade and a promise to not nuke them. Thats pretty much about it.
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Clinton's promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians worked out so well, right?


There was never a promise to protect Ukraine from the Russians.



It was a promise to respect their sovereignty and not invade and a promise to not nuke them. Thats pretty much about it.


IIRC, the USA "assured" Ukraine's security in the signed agreements.  If you don't consider that a promise, I understand - the term "assured" is vague.  



 
Link Posted: 3/6/2015 10:39:47 AM EDT
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  "Nuclear umbrella" does not specifically refer to ballistic missile defense.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_umbrella

 
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So, wait a second, wait a second.

The Missile Defense Systems that Kerry as a Senator and Obama throughout his career has tried to kill will now be held up by them as a good thing for our allies?

Soooo, are they going to apologize for trying to kill a program that now seems very necessary?



Lol, Nice catch...
 




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COl4soeox6Y

  "Nuclear umbrella" does not specifically refer to ballistic missile defense.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_umbrella

 


No counselor it doesn't expressly promise much at all, but I'll be damned if it isn't implied.

We've already seen them move such assets to Hawaii when North Korea was threatening tests.


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Wouldn't you?

 
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