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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 12/9/2005 6:13:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 10:56:17 AM EDT by jmboom]
And get a lawyer to repeal the unconstitutional bans on Machine guns and importing "Assault Weapons". Would this work or do you have to break the law to be able to get something in front of the supreme court. I would be willing to donate some money towards this how bout you?

BTW: Because of so many people recommending the book Unintended Consiquences (I am on page 152) This gave me the idea.


ETA: Changed the title to see if that will add some motivation

ETA: changed again to fix unconstitutional versus constitutional
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 6:28:34 PM EDT
Shoot, sign me up for two.
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 6:30:50 PM EDT
We already have several of those. They're called the NRA, GOA, JPFO and there are a bunch of others.
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 6:31:24 PM EDT
i am in college and broke, but i have a virgin credit card
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 6:34:01 PM EDT
Even if everone on this site kicked in $5 we would only have $375,000. Hell the NRA has a hard time holding ground and as of late some victorys. I do like the way you think though.
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 7:08:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
We already have several of those. They're called the NRA, GOA, JPFO and there are a bunch of others.



I understand this though. I am a member of the NRA also but I understand they can only do so much. I know they pick their fights also. I am willing to throw my money away because I want to see the outcome, I want to see how far this will go.
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 7:20:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/9/2005 7:21:36 PM EDT by Andreuha]
I think the whole point here is that the orgs want to see a more gun-freindly panel of SCOTUS judges before they make the financial commitment to back (what would become) a high-profile case.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 4:50:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2005 8:25:54 AM EDT by jmboom]
Ok just recieved an IM. I do not mean to do anything stupid, notice I mentioned getting a lawyer and going that route. I did not intend to do something first.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 4:52:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Andreuha:
I think the whole point here is that the orgs want to see a more gun-freindly panel of SCOTUS judges before they make the financial commitment to back (what would become) a high-profile case.



Yup. We could shoot ourselves in the foot (heh), by acting too soon.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 8:26:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2005 8:28:28 AM EDT by jmboom]

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By Andreuha:
I think the whole point here is that the orgs want to see a more gun-freindly panel of SCOTUS judges before they make the financial commitment to back (what would become) a high-profile case.



Yup. We could shoot ourselves in the foot (heh), by acting too soon.



You make a good point. But if worst come to worst how long do we wait.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:00:57 AM EDT
Ok with all this talk about Alito being pro gun would it be a good time to bring this issue up? Given he is chosen.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:01:35 AM EDT
I was really expecting a better response, but oh well never mind.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:09:42 AM EDT
I'd settle for a group buy on Golden Rods.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:10:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 10mmFan:
I'd settle for a group buy on Golden Rods.



Hell, if they repealed the bans I would buy your damn golden rods!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:18:38 AM EDT
"unconstitutional ammendments"?

I don't think there are any, by definition.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:20:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
"unconstitutional ammendments"?

I don't think there are any, by definition.


+1
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:30:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 10:30:20 AM EDT by guardian855]
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:36:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 10:38:36 AM EDT by cnow]

Originally Posted By guardian855:
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?




Amendment 9:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

When an amendment does what this amendment prohibits. That is how.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:37:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By guardian855:
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?


I was thinking the same thing. The title needs to be more clear.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 10:56:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 10:57:15 AM EDT by jmboom]

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By guardian855:
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?


I was thinking the same thing. The title needs to be more clear.



You guys are a pain in the buttochs. fixed it for you
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:00:50 AM EDT
There must be some way to challenge the law without breaking it... any lawyers here?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:03:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmboom:

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By guardian855:
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?


I was thinking the same thing. The title needs to be more clear.



You guys are a pain in the buttochs. fixed it for you


jmboom, there was no need to fix the title... you had it right.

Read the 9th amendment.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:11:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 11:22:02 AM EDT by SJSAMPLE]

Originally Posted By cnow:

Originally Posted By jmboom:

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By guardian855:
How could a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional?


I was thinking the same thing. The title needs to be more clear.



You guys are a pain in the buttochs. fixed it for you


jmboom, there was no need to fix the title... you had it right.

Read the 9th amendment.



Sorry, but another amendment can override the 9th amendment..
Just like the 18th Amendment was repealed by the 21st Amendment.
The following amendment overrides the preceeding amendment, where applicable.

We could pass another amendment denying a specific group specific rights.

ETA: I must admit that the only time I've heard "unconstitutional amendment" was when Louisiana passed its own amendment prohibiting gay marriage or civil unions. An appeals judge said that the amendment was "unconstitutional" because it violated the LA constitution by addressing two separate topics: marriange and civil unions. Go figure.

However, he was addressing the way an item was drafted and passed, not the specific content or the right of the state to address that content.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:26:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:28:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 11:29:26 AM EDT by HK_Shooter_03]

Originally Posted By Osirus23:

Originally Posted By HK_Shooter_03:
If we could only get a group of lawyers to go after this...



Its too bad there isnt a nationwide organization dedicated to promoting gun rights that could take the initative on this.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=137&t=423994
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:33:48 AM EDT
Before we start a legal fund we shold find an attorney.


Paging Eric the Hun.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 11:38:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
We already have several of those. They're called the NRA, GOA, JPFO and there are a bunch of others.



Will not touch it
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