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Posted: 2/19/2006 6:33:53 PM EDT
I got done with this today:
   Tomorrow, I'll be doing .308... 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 6:53:35 PM EDT
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You tumble complete cartridges? 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 6:57:06 PM EDT
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+1000, thats just stupid. Bill3508 |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 6:58:42 PM EDT
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I'm not even going to waste my breath trying to defend myself...  ETA: I'd like to see you wipe the lube off of 1000 rounds of ammunition... Have fun doing that!
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:00:25 PM EDT
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Looks good! Tumble away!
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:00:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Factory ammo is tumbled while complete. Not stupid at all. ;) |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:08:39 PM EDT
[#6]
I gotta get me a reloader.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:10:44 PM EDT
[#7]
Been doing it 20+ years, not ever a problem, stupid not to. 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:10:44 PM EDT
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It's like deja vu, exact same shit last time you posted a reloading thread HK. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:14:59 PM EDT
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What is stupid is not know that there is nothing wrong with tumbling loaded ammo. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:20:50 PM EDT
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I've heard that if you tumble loaded ammo there is the possibility of the tip of one round hitting the primer of another and blowing up your tumbler.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:22:49 PM EDT
[#11]
BFD. An asteroid could hit us at any moment too! 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:27:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Beautiful! There is something appealing about cranking out a bunch of ammo and being able to admire it. It's almost a shame to shoot it!
ETA: Everything I've read says tumbling loaded ammunition is not a problem and I have done it before. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:29:26 PM EDT
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How many rounds and how long did it take? I know nothing about reloading.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:29:48 PM EDT
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If your using that sensitive of primers, you better handle those rounds very carefully and God help you if you drop them. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:35:25 PM EDT
[#15]
That's one blue box of evil you got there.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:37:59 PM EDT
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You guys have no clue what you are talking about. 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:41:09 PM EDT
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Hey - what seater die are you using? Those are mild dents - I used to get those in Vmax's too. Just curious what you are using.   |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:41:36 PM EDT
[#18]
I might be wrong, but it looks like there is a primer not fully seated on the bottom of the third pic.
SRM |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:45:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Cool pics.  40 more days 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:59:55 PM EDT
[#20]
I get the same mark reloading the V-Max's and I'm using RCBS carbide dies with the Redding Competition seat. Bullets are clean up to and including bullet seat, but the crimp is where it's getting marked. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:02:41 PM EDT
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To me, it looks like the light is hitting it at just the right angle... You could be right because I have not chamber checked and inspected the lot... I'm doing that tomorrow... ETA: I'm rehosting pictures now... |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:19:24 PM EDT
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I'm not kidding when I say this... One day I used my LULA to unload a magazine into an ammo can like the one seen in the pictures and a shooter at an IPSC match said the same thing! He scared everyone at the table... |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:21:30 PM EDT
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Could be, just wanted to alert you. I always stand rounds up on the table. If it wobbles, it is rejected. (pretty rare occurance, knock on wood) SRM |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:27:38 PM EDT
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It's weird...some people act like loaded ammo (even rimfire) is a live pipe bomb. My uncle has a coffee can full of .223 in the bottom of the safe, and a 7.62X39 fell on it from the shelf about 6 inches above it and he started freaking out saying that it could hit the primer and set the whole thing off. If he sees loose ammo he never hesitates to tell me "be careful, this is sensitive". I just say "I know" and nod my head. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:50:25 PM EDT
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I have no trouble with tumbling loaded ammo, however.... the trouble is not a primer going off, it the powder changing consistancy inside the case and burning different then intended, ie; faster.
What happens to the sharp edges of a rock while in a tumbler? They get polished off and rounded. The material that is removed turns to dust. This is why there are certain reloads I would NEVER tumble. My 30-06 reloads. I use 4064 and 4350, which is a cylindrical powder and much more likley to change form after being tumbled.  to a fellow reloader!!!CH |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:51:59 PM EDT
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You never stuffed a 22 ctg in the end of a straw and tossed them off a cliff or bridge? To be young and dumb again!!
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:11:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Thanks for the idea. /younganddumb
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:16:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Please do a little research, and not repost old wives tales and mytholigy. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:52:53 PM EDT
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No need.  |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:57:45 PM EDT
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We were plinking once up in the Angeles Nat'l Forest back when they didn't get all het up about it. Found a 22 in my pocket when we stopped at the turnout with a kybo. Tossed the cartridge over into the ravine and bang. Surprised us. That said I tumble my reloads in walnut shell and paint thinner to get the lube off. Load for cowboy shooting and those big lead bullets used to get a lot of lube around. Only have to do it for a few minutes. Time out I use a vibrating cleaner, not a big tumbler. You could probably dent more cases in a big rotating tumbler than have anything else go wrong. Doesn't take too long to get used to checking your primer height with your thumb when taking out of a single pumper or when putting them in a case. Find missing or reversed ones then too, not just high ones. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:10:06 PM EDT
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So is seating the actuall .223 bullet into the casing hard. My reloading experiance is only limited to going over to a friends house reloading .45's, but it would seem more difficult with 223. So in short, is .223 difficult to reload? More time consuming? More tedious?
I know i cant spell so please dont point it out to me. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:20:16 PM EDT
[#32]
Very nice. I've got to get into reloading....
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:24:37 PM EDT
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+1 That brings a tear to my eye... My inner child is crying to get back to the loading bench 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:26:33 PM EDT
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I did have an ammo can of .45 ACP fall off a table, hit the ground, and a round popped.
It was sealed shut at the time, and nothing was any worse for wear. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:28:35 PM EDT
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Yes... Yes you do... You need to order a Dillon 550B right away!  Oh...and there is no problem with tumbling loaded ammo... |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:30:00 PM EDT
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This thread starts at a most opportune time! I just recieved my reloading dies, shellholder/plates, brass, and bullets for my Brand Spanking New 416 Remington mag!
I can't wait to see what those flat nosed Barnes banded 350 grain solids and triple shocks do to a squirrel at close to 2700 ft/sec muzzle velocity! Oh yea. Happiness is a few thousand rounds of your favorite loads. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:39:39 PM EDT
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I loaded 130 rds of 12Guage 00B today.
Nothing beats stacking your own buchshot! 
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:50:44 PM EDT
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Semi off topic question....How much do you actually save reloading .223, not counting the equipment? I would like to do this if it yields significant monetary savings.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:58:00 PM EDT
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I cannot wait to get back to reloading too. But there is something else that I look foward to more.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:59:24 PM EDT
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I need to get some more money together to blow on components... It's been a while since I've done any reloading
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Posted: 2/19/2006 11:02:10 PM EDT
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You can safe a lot if you are loading match or hunting rounds, if it's just FMJ blasting ammo there is really no savings. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 11:06:45 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info. Off to the reloading forum I go.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 11:22:29 PM EDT
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I just did a quick estimate to find out about what it would cost to load match rounds using 77 gr Sierra Matchkings. Buying new Win brass it would run about $7.50/per 20 rds and without having to buy brass is would be about $5/per 20 rds. Federal Gold Medal Match runs $20+ per 20 rds. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 11:34:15 PM EDT
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If you are worried your powder might be damaged when tumbling loaded rounds, then you should do an experiment to see if your fears are justified.
Load some rounds. Take several and set them aside. Tumble the rest (actually, we use a vibratory cleaner not a true tumbler like a rock tumbler). Run them long enough to get eh lube off, say, 15 minutes. Disassemble them and look for powder degradation (dust, broken kernels, etc). Compare the contents of the tumbled rounds to the contents of the untumbled rounds. Take both tumbled and untumbled rounds to the range and fire them. Measure velocity and accuracy for both types and compare. Every time I do this I get NO DIFFERENCE. If you are worried about cleaning lube off your loaded rounds, you'd better be VERY worried about transporting your ammo in your car. |
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Posted: 2/20/2006 5:49:35 AM EDT
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IMHO, you won't save a dime reloading. You will have better ammo, shoot about 4 times as much and become a much better shooter. SRM |
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Posted: 2/20/2006 6:12:52 AM EDT
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All the Powder Mfg's. I have spoken to seem to say you are wrong.
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Posted: 2/20/2006 6:21:57 AM EDT
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They ship bags of loose-packed ammo on forklifts, then trucks, then planes, then more trucks, then the UPS guy dropping it at the foor, then you getting all excited and dragging it in, then ripping open the box, then pulling out the bag and dropping it on the floor,... |
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Posted: 2/20/2006 6:23:58 AM EDT
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See what happens when you start a thread about reloading in GD.
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Posted: 2/20/2006 6:28:28 AM EDT
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I don't have the patience for reloading...I wish that I did.
 My hat is off to you.
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Posted: 2/20/2006 6:32:04 AM EDT
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My opinion also. |
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