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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:09:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 12:10:26 AM EST by Wheelie]
Well?

No arguments, poll only.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:13:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 12:13:30 AM EST by STG77]
100% w00t!

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:15:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By STG77:
100% w00t!

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noooo! now you did it!

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:30:04 AM EST
"Religion is regarded by the common as true, by the wise as false and by rulers as useful."

-Seneca the Younger
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:35:23 AM EST
It can be a good thing, can be a bad thing.

Just look at the Crusades. Oh wait, those weren't about religion at all so anyone intending on posting about them in this thread should just do us all a favor and shut the fuck up before you start.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:39:01 AM EST
Well its a good way to teach morals and values.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:41:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By MagazineFed:
Well its a good way to teach morals and values.


No arguments please. Arfcom poll only.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:43:17 AM EST
Religion is good. How some people use it can be bad.

Kind of like guns.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:54:28 AM EST
Mech2007
poll only

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:02:26 AM EST
The question is too broad for a yes or no answer.

I can tell you from experience that the Christian faith has been very good to me.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:17:29 AM EST
According to government - No - only the government should be bowed to
Acording to me - yes - I do not bow to an earthly king - only to the King of Kings
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:25:02 AM EST
Bewbies
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:28:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 1:29:57 AM EST by Wheelie]
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies


I guess I should be ok, this isn't an argument, right?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:31:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies


I guess I should be ok, this isn't an argument, right?
Your puppy looks sad Not an argument, just a reason that God is good.





Might I add Beer

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:35:04 AM EST
Religion is neither good nor bad, it's a tool. It has been used for both good and bad throughout history and it still is today.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:35:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies



But more on-topic: Religion is a completely different thing than faith. I've never seen anyone harmed by a sincere faith, but I see religion as a "force multiplier"; it seems to make a good person better and a bad person worse. Kinda like a firearm, if you think about it.

Jane



Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:36:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies


I guess I should be ok, this isn't an argument, right?
Your puppy looks sad Not an argument, just a reason that God is good.

Might I add Beer



Haha, my puppas is very happy....

And she will be happier if I can get out of bed today to take her squirrel hunting. ....although I doubt it...depression sucks.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:36:53 AM EST
Good.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:38:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 1:43:34 AM EST by Wheelie]
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies



But more on-topic: Religion is a completely different thing than faith. I've never seen anyone harmed by a sincere faith, but I see religion as a "force multiplier"; it seems to make a good person better and a bad person worse. Kinda like a firearm, if you think about it.

Jane


Thank you for your post Ms. Jane.......

<<<<<sits and ponders your post.

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:40:00 AM EST
God "hates" religion. Religion is worthless. God wants a PERSONAL relationship with His creation.

To document that God hates religion, note the following passages of Scripture:

"...every abominable act which the Lord hates they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)

"I have had enough of burnt offerings...Bring your worthless offerings no longer...I hate your new moon festivals and your appointed feasts; they have become a burden to Me... So when you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you... I will not listen..." (Isaiah 1:10-15)

"I hate, I reject your festivals; nor do I delight in your solemn assemblies...take away from Me the noise of your songs; I will not even listen to the sound of your harps." (Amos 5:21-24)

These passages bear out the fact that God hates religion, and all of its procedures and programs; rituals and regulations.

Religion is inevitably the result of man taking that which is of God and forming it, formulating it, in such a way that men end up "playing God." Men can form idols out of wood or stone in an attempt to represent God, or they can formulate ideological idols (belief-systems, doctrinal definitions, theological theses). The men who thus form and formulate become the "chief priests" of the new religion because they are regarded as knowing the most about what God is like, and well they should for they formed "it."

There are three features which seem to be basic to all forms of man-made religion. Religion involves absolutism, authoritarianism and activism. Now there is nothing wrong with absolutes, authority or activity. God is absolute, authoritative and active. But when any man or group of men attempts to establish themselves as the arbiters or regulators of God's absoluteness, authority or activity, they then begin to "play god," and religion is the result as they impose their perspective of absolute, authority and activity on others.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:44:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 2:07:12 AM EST by M4]
There's plenty of both in religion.

No option for that in the poll.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:46:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By nukldragr:
Bewbies



But more on-topic: Religion is a completely different thing than faith. I've never seen anyone harmed by a sincere faith, but I see religion as a "force multiplier"; it seems to make a good person better and a bad person worse. Kinda like a firearm, if you think about it.

Jane


Thank you for your post Ms. Jane.......

<<<<<sits and ponders your post.


Don't ponder that last sentence too long. Like any other analogy, it's not an absolute.

Jane

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:15:56 AM EST
It can be both good and bad. Some people need the threat of hell-fire and eternal damnation, or the promise of eternal life to keep them in line. Others don't.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:17:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Mech2007
poll only



Poll sucks. Arguments ensue. Religion good. Religion bad. Way it is.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:19:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Originally Posted By MagazineFed:
Well its a good way to teach morals and values.


No arguments please. Arfcom poll only.

Good luck with that one.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:30:19 AM EST
It does more good than bad
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:44:04 AM EST
Net good IMHO. Particularly Judaism and Christianity.

In on one.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:46:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 2:47:58 AM EST by Wheelie]
Originally Posted By EightySecond:

Originally Posted By Wheelie:
Originally Posted By MagazineFed:
Well its a good way to teach morals and values.


No arguments please. Arfcom poll only.

Good luck with that one.


I will admit this, and this is huge for me.... I think religion is good..as long as it is kept to oneself.

But I don't have a religion.......

I believe in something....but I don't know what to call him or her.......

does this make sense?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:46:57 AM EST
It's spiituality that is important. However, if religion teaches moral, that's important too. God Bless you all.
















Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:53:23 AM EST
Religion can be great depending on which side of the offering plate you're on.

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Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:56:33 AM EST
I voted good, but it's a cumulative thing, I think it has done more good... gives people a sense of belonging, purpose etc. Yes I'm aware that many bad things have been done, and are still done, in the name of religion. I'm an agnostic BTW and have nothing to do with it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 3:02:15 AM EST
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions.

Karl Marx FTW!

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