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Posted: 3/12/2011 8:07:01 PM EST
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:07:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?



CoC prevents me from telling you the truth.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:08:39 PM EST
Insert kanye west george bush type joke here
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:10:28 PM EST
Homogeneous society.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:10:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Thom101:
Insert kanye west george bush type joke here


George Bush doesn't care about Japanese people.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:11:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Phil1712:
Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?



CoC prevents me from telling you the truth.


Truth.

If I were ethnic I would be pretty embarassed right now.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:11:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?


Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:12:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Phil1712:
Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?



CoC prevents me from telling you the truth.


Common denominator wins again.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:12:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.


Bingo!
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:13:37 PM EST
I think it stands to reason that a disciplined culture would be more orderly in times of crisis.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:14:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:14:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By mgamber:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.


Bingo!
So is Haiti, and it wasn't exactly a cakewalk after the earthquake.

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:16:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?




2nd guess?

You're a racist!



Jarhead is right. Tribes is the concept you're looking for.

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:16:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By AchNgnt:
Originally Posted By Phil1712:
Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?



CoC prevents me from telling you the truth.


Truth.

If I were ethnic I would be pretty embarassed right now.


You don't have an ethnicity?
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:17:07 PM EST
No entitlement program moochers.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:18:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:19:52 PM EST by NimmerMehr]

Originally Posted By Thom101:
Insert kanye west george bush type joke here

"Barack Obama hates yellow people!"

"$CURRENT_PRESIDENT hates $SKIN_TONE people!"


Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:

Originally Posted By mgamber:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.


Bingo!
So is Haiti, and it wasn't exactly a cakewalk after the earthquake.

*mumbles* Homogeneous cluster fuck. *mumbles*
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:19:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:21:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By mgamber:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.


Bingo!


So, you are suggesting that we throw a few Ainu into the shelters for giggles?
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:21:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By DontShootMyDog:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?



2nd guess?

You're a racist!


Jarhead is right. Tribes is the concept you're looking for.


You're dodging the truth and masking it with distractors.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:22:04 PM EST
The Japanese are hard working decent people who actually have a culture. They dont go around destroying and tearing it down just because terrible things happen to them.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:23:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.


I'm too drunk to think of the answer. Can you help me out?
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:24:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By DontShootMyDog:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?




2nd guess?

You're a racist!



Jarhead is right. Tribes is the concept you're looking for.



Typical response if anyone comes close to addressing the issue.

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:26:52 PM EST
They are a people who came up with "sepuku" when they were dishonerable.

It stands to reason they would handle themselves upright if for no other reason than not to have to do that.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:31:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:32:36 PM EST by kevthebassman]
I wonder if they'll be sitting around in their donated tents a year from now getting cholera while they wait for someone else to clear the rubble from their streets like in Haiti?

Someone on here noted in a post months ago, that with the stated cubic yardage of rubble in Port Au Prince, and the stated number of people sitting in the tent cities, divided by 4 to reflect the number of able-bodied men, if they had each cleared away a very doable (I think it was 3) number of cubic yards of rubble per day, they would have had the city completely cleared for rebuilding in a matter of months. Instead, they've all sat on their asses, eaten donated food, and drank from the same water they shit in, much the way they did before the earthquake.

Some cultures are doomed to failure. At a certain point, it is sheer stupidity to defy the will of Mother Nature and Darwin. Haiti could be a tropical paradise if it wasn't for the Haitians.

Japan will bounce back from this.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:32:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:36:03 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By badfish274:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.


I'm too drunk to think of the answer. Can you help me out?

Nature + Nurture.

1. They value education.
2. They have a culture which expects decency and achievement.
3. They are probably genetically less predisposed to impulsive, reckless and violent behaviors.
4. They're more intelligent
5. They have greater self-control.

In general, they're more civilized humans than some other groups.


Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:37:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:39:04 PM EST by NBCMarine]
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks. edit for lolz at above post.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:38:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:39:23 PM EST by VoodooChile]
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.





just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:39:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.

Discipline, respect and conformity are stressed in Japan. They have had a functional society for hundreds of years based on respect for authority. I spent some time in Okinawa so I have a little familiarity with the way things work there.

West Africa has been more of a hunter-gatherer society due in part to the climate, and is very superstitious and tribal, even within their otherwise ethnically homogeneous society, as mentioned above. The area has also always been prone to various deadly diseases, even in the modern age. This lowers the life expectancy considerably.

According to the World Bank:
Life expectancy in Ivory Coast: 57.4
Life expectancy in Japan: 82.6
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:39:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?




Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:42:42 PM EST
From what I understand the Japanese are so disciplined and honest that you could leave your wallet full of cash on a bench in a busy train station and they will either leave it be or turn it in to lost and found 99.9% of the time. I even heard they will turn in a half eaten sandwich to lost and found. I am not surprised that a people with a very high moral character would handle themselves well in a crises.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:42:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:43:31 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.


just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:43:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?






I think if you were on a nature hike in the PI with them in 42 you may not have as high an opinion of those civilized humans.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:43:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By DontShootMyDog:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?



2nd guess?

You're a racist!


Jarhead is right. Tribes is the concept you're looking for.


You're dodging the truth and masking it with distractors.





Or, you are so certain you just "know" the truth is some intrinsic genetic thing, that no other possible explanation or theory is even worth your time or effort to understand.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:44:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.





just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes alot



Bloodthirsty when it came to non-Japanese. I'm no expert on Japanese history, but from what I know, their society has been a very orderly and efficient one for a thousand years or better. I don't recall much tolerance for disobedience or shiftless behavior at any point in their history as a nation.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:44:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By Phil1712:
Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
I'm watching the news and I see the refugee centers full of cooperative people helping each other out and behaving in an orderly manner. I'm so confused.

Why aren't they rioting?



CoC prevents me from telling you the truth.


Common denominator wins again.

Common denominator is the politically correct term for Ghetto Goblin.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:44:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:45:12 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?





I think if you were on a nature hike in the PI with them in 42 you may not have as high an opinion of those civilized humans.

You didn't answer the question.

Are you saying the 1940 population of Sendai would be rioting by now?

Yes or no.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:45:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?



They'd have that city rebuilt by now. Hell, if anything our blue jeans and McDonalds are slowing them down.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:46:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By kevthebassman:
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.





just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes alot


Bloodthirsty when it came to non-Japanese. I'm no expert on Japanese history, but from what I know, their society has been a very orderly and efficient one for a thousand years or better. I don't recall much tolerance for disobedience or shiftless behavior at any point in their history as a nation.

This is true.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:46:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.


Perhaps he should have said "time spent having the everloving dog shit kicked out of you by a larger, more powerful nation and then having your government and country rebuilt according to their plan and being occupied by that nation... changes a lot".
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:46:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By DontShootMyDog:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?



2nd guess?

You're a racist!


Jarhead is right. Tribes is the concept you're looking for.


You're dodging the truth and masking it with distractors.


Or, you are so certain you just "know" the truth is some intrinsic genetic thing, that no other possible explanation or theory is even worth your time or effort to understand.

Keep reading.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:47:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?





I think if you were on a nature hike in the PI with them in 42 you may not have as high an opinion of those civilized humans.

You didn't answer the question.

Are you saying the 1940 population of Sendai would be rioting by now?

Yes or no.





No they would be too busy trying to rape and commit war crimes.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:47:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.


Relative lack of entitlement/victim culture by contrast too I suspect.

Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:47:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By badfish274:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.

So is Ivory Coast and Monrovia.

Second guess?

Homogeneous functional society.

Ivory Coast and Liberia don't work well when conditions are otherwise fine, let alone in a disaster.

So why is it functional?

Don't dance around the answer.


I'm too drunk to think of the answer. Can you help me out?

George W. Bush is not President of Japan. Duh.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:50:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 8:53:07 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By BakerMike:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.


Perhaps he should have said "time spent having the everloving dog shit kicked out of you by a larger, more powerful nation and then having your government and country rebuilt according to their plan and being occupied by that nation... changes a lot".



How did that "larger more powerful nation" (as if there were only one) get the head start on Africa on becoming so technologically and sociologically advanced?

And why did northern Africa advance so much while subsaharan Africa never did?



ETA: So according to you - "It's Bush's fault" (or Bush's ancestors).


Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:51:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?





I think if you were on a nature hike in the PI with them in 42 you may not have as high an opinion of those civilized humans.

You didn't answer the question.

Are you saying the 1940 population of Sendai would be rioting by now?

Yes or no.


No they would be too busy trying to rape and commit war crimes.

On each other!?

Try again.



Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:52:06 PM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ijhPxrLps



We have all watched it but to answer the question.

This is why
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:53:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By BakerMike:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.


Perhaps he should have said "time spent having the everloving dog shit kicked out of you by a larger, more powerful nation and then having your government and country rebuilt according to their plan and being occupied by that nation... changes a lot".



How did that "larger more powerful nation" (as if there were only one) get the head start on Africa on becoming so technologically and sociologically advanced?

And why did northern Africa advance so much while subsaharan Africa never did?





Lack of decent trade routes until they rest of the world was much more advanced.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:53:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Homogeneous society.



Exactly.

The difference between a nation and a multicultural empire.

It also explains why good people in good towns brought in the scourge of the Earth after Katrina, only to find out they broght thieves, rapists and other assorted scum into their communities. Same with some of the ridiculous immigration debacles that have ensued over the past several decades. I've seen these people ruin plenty of nice midwestern towns with their naivete.

My sister lived in Japan for many years and told me much about their country.
Now, it was different for her daughter who was gang raped with no consequences by a bunch of nice japanese boys who thought it was a great deal to take a "half". That's what they call them over there, apparently. They also don't do anything about it. I guess a "half" isn't worthy....

Interesting world.
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:57:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By BakerMike:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.


Perhaps he should have said "time spent having the everloving dog shit kicked out of you by a larger, more powerful nation and then having your government and country rebuilt according to their plan and being occupied by that nation... changes a lot".


Well Africa and Japan both had the shit kicked out of them, and then had occupying armies and societies rebuilt and handed back...
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 8:58:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Would like to see the 1937 and 1941 GD veiw point on these fine folks.

Do you think the 1940 Japanese people of Sendai would be rioting by now?





I think if you were on a nature hike in the PI with them in 42 you may not have as high an opinion of those civilized humans.

You didn't answer the question.

Are you saying the 1940 population of Sendai would be rioting by now?

Yes or no.


No they would be too busy trying to rape and commit war crimes.

On each other!?

Try again.





No. China,the US the PI ect. Axis power nice bunch of folks you know. Oh hey lets not forget about how wonderful and functioning feudal Japan was! Cause they alwas get along right?
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 10:01:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 10:03:45 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By NBCMarine:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By BakerMike:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
just a few generations ago they were as bloodthirsty as anyone....time changes a lot


Subsaharan Africa has been a cannibalistic shithole ever since the dawn of man.

And they've had the MOST time of anyone on the frickin planet to get with the program.


Perhaps he should have said "time spent having the everloving dog shit kicked out of you by a larger, more powerful nation and then having your government and country rebuilt according to their plan and being occupied by that nation... changes a lot".



How did that "larger more powerful nation" (as if there were only one) get the head start on Africa on becoming so technologically and sociologically advanced?

And why did northern Africa advance so much while subsaharan Africa never did?




Lack of decent trade routes until they rest of the world was much more advanced.

Begs the question... why did they lack trade routes? Why did THEY not advance beyond living in dirt like the other civilizations advanced beyond living in dirt?

Everyone was living in dirt at some point in their past. But some peoples invented things like the wheel and boats and the written word and metals. THOSE are what led to advancements which led to trade routes.

But not all civilizations got the idea for things like wheels and transportation and transgenerational communication. Why not?





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