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Posted: 7/3/2015 4:15:21 AM EDT
Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.



Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.




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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:23:08 AM EDT
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Un fucking believeable.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:27:43 AM EDT
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Damn with these changing definitions I'm becoming all kinds of a victim. First I found out that the older neighbor girl who wanted to play doctor with me when we were kids really molested me and now I find out I've been raped just because a past girlfriend who was insatiable had pestered me for sex occasionally. Now I feel dirty.






















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That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.
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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:49:09 AM EDT
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If I were single I might consider leaving the country. There are plenty of countries in SE Asia where this feminist bullshit isnt an issue.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:52:22 AM EDT
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That was actually a great read.

Modern feminists are fucking crazy.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:55:53 AM EDT
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Soon enough, just looking at a woman for more than 1 second at a time will be rape unless she wants that particular male to look at her.

Oh wait, they already tried to get "stare rape" to become a thing.  Luckily they got laughed at hard enough to kill that particular trend.
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 4:58:23 AM EDT
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Please explain the following to me:

Say I'm a 25 year old female, and I consume a half-bottle of Dewar's one evening.

If I then climb behind the wheel of my car, I'm 100% responsible for both my actions and any resulting accidents or death. I cannot claim "zero responsibility" because I was "under the influence."

But, instead of driving my car, I engage in drunken physical frivolity with a man. Can I then claim "zero responsibility" for whatever happens physically between us because I was "under the influence", and, accordingly, unable to give consent?

Seems fishy to me. What am I missing here?
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Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.
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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.


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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.


https://youtu.be/rlvMAS_20K4


She hit the nail so hard on the head she drove it through.
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Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.
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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?

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I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?

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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.

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No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.
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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.

Oh, OK.  In that case, if you don't want to get married, don't.  You'll be happier for not doing so, some woman will be happier for you not doing so, and one else gives a shit.  It's a win all around.
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If I were single I might consider leaving the country. There are plenty of countries in SE Asia where this feminist bullshit isnt an issue.
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My old Army buddy married a Filipino and they had 2 kids.  Crazy happy together.  Then she brought her mother over.  Now he says their marriage is "on the rocks".  
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Oh, OK.  In that case, if you don't want to get married, don't.  You'll be happier for not doing so, some woman will be happier for you not doing so, and one else gives a shit.  It's a win all around.
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That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.

Oh, OK.  In that case, if you don't want to get married, don't.  You'll be happier for not doing so, some woman will be happier for you not doing so, and one else gives a shit.  It's a win all around.


Don't listen to her - she's just old and bitter.    We fellow guys here at arfcom do give a shit and are happy that you are sharing your tale with us.  Many of us feel likewise.  

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I've spoken to her on the phone before and she is a pretty squared away woman.

She lives in Canada.


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Don't listen to her - she's just old and bitter.    We fellow guys here at arfcom do give a shit and are happy that you are sharing your tale with us.  Many of us feel likewise.  

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Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.

Oh, OK.  In that case, if you don't want to get married, don't.  You'll be happier for not doing so, some woman will be happier for you not doing so, and one else gives a shit.  It's a win all around.


Don't listen to her - she's just old and bitter.    We fellow guys here at arfcom do give a shit and are happy that you are sharing your tale with us.  Many of us feel likewise.  


I suppose two out of three isn't bad.  I am old and you boys do love to "listen" to each other bitch about women.  Dead wrong on the other though; I'm probably the least bitter woman on ARFCOM on the topic on men.  

I will confess to a lack of patience with gender adversarial, whiny bitchmales.  I attribute this to having been blessed to know, or at least be in a position to observe the behavior of, a number of actual men.  I suspect this is what has resulted in your confusion.
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The 'stranger' doesnt work when you use a fleshlight bud
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 8:45:12 AM EDT
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What the fuck did I just read? There was so much crazy in that article that my head hurts. I need a beer and its only 8:43 in the morning.
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Please explain the following to me:

Say I'm a 25 year old female, and I consume a half-bottle of Dewar's one evening.

If I then climb behind the wheel of my car, I'm 100% responsible for both my actions and any resulting accidents or death. I cannot claim "zero responsibility" because I was "under the influence."

But, instead of driving my car, I engage in drunken physical frivolity with a man. Can I then claim "zero responsibility" for whatever happens physically between us because I was "under the influence", and, accordingly, unable to give consent?

Seems fishy to me. What am I missing here?


Logic is sexist

#checkyourmaleprivilege
Link Posted: 7/3/2015 8:58:24 AM EDT
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Damn, who knew?  I've been raped a few times myself, I guess, cause even my ugly ass has been pestered into sex a couple times.  



All of a sudden, I feel so violated.  







I wish I had my own country.
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No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.

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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



No, what I said was more of a weak rant on why I never want to marry and my general disdain of modern feminism that seems to be slowly becoming  more and more common in the thought proces of women of my age group.


No need to rant about it then. Just don't get married. if you assume you'll be miserable, you probably would be, and you would probably make someone else miserable in the process. No need for all that.
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You'll be accused of raping the internet next............
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/

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While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.

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Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.
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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.


Good points. It's cheaper to rent them. Of course that option isn't legal in most of the U.S.  It would solve a lot of these problems if it was though.
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While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.

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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


I can find no fault in any of this.
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While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.





Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.





And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.





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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.





Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.





Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.





And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.










 
No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.







And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.


 



Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.
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  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.

What you suggest serves no purpose and only continues the use, in a legal context, of a word that has been used to mean everything from forcible penetration of a bodily orifice to pouring used motor oil into a storm drain.  It has lost all specificity and only serves to evoke emotion.  I want to take that word away from the sensationalizing news media.

But I don't intent to argue with you.  When you are crowned King Asshole of Planet Earth, do whatthefuckever you want.  I'm going with my original plan.
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You said rape twice.


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I can find no fault in any of this.
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/




While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


I can find no fault in any of this.


Nor I. The damn pendulum swings too far.
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I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?

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I'm just gonna get a good job a nice house tons of guns and a flesh light, that way I will never have to worry about raping anyone or my wife divorcing me.
Basically things are getting to a point where marriage and women in general seem so bad that I would rather masturbate.


That's lame as fuck. No gun on this earth runs better than a well tuned vagina with medium mileage.



Honestly if it's just about pussy I can get that just fine.
I do not see the benefits to marrying a woman or living with her.
Nearly every marriage I have been around my whole life has been nothing but a fucked up mess of arguments and people that resent each other.
With the rate at which women seem to be accusing men of rape I see more and more risk.

Why get married and have kids when statistically it is going to fail?
What benefit besides pussy is there? Companionship? I get more companionship out of my dog than I do most people.

I can think of no reason for you to marry.  Is someone trying to coerce you into doing so?



Lol...  I see what you did there...
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  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.


Actually they do have a term for that. It is called Assault.
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What you suggest serves no purpose and only continues the use, in a legal context, of a word that has been used to mean everything from forcible penetration of a bodily orifice to pouring used motor oil into a storm drain.  It has lost all specificity and only serves to evoke emotion.  I want to take that word away from the sensationalizing news media.

But I don't intent to argue with you.  When you are crowned King Asshole of Planet Earth, do whatthefuckever you want.  I'm going with my original plan.
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.

What you suggest serves no purpose and only continues the use, in a legal context, of a word that has been used to mean everything from forcible penetration of a bodily orifice to pouring used motor oil into a storm drain.  It has lost all specificity and only serves to evoke emotion.  I want to take that word away from the sensationalizing news media.

But I don't intent to argue with you.  When you are crowned King Asshole of Planet Earth, do whatthefuckever you want.  I'm going with my original plan.


Banning evil words because some people misuse them? The concept seems vaguely familiar.
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/



While rightfully deploring the excesses of the "yes means yes" movement, the authors of the linked article, and another from yesterday, correctly note that, in the past, rape was pretty much what men said it was.  This was wrong.  Now rape is pretty much what women say it is.  And this is wrong too.

Undesired sexual contact ranges from forcible rape to plain bad manners.  Depending on the agenda of the individual, some consider all rape, others none.  And those of ill-will on both sides use the excesses of the other to justify their own. Personally, I'd like the word "rape" stricken from the lexicon, it's use made a misdemeanor, and it replaced with Sexual Assault in as many Degrees as necessary to  reflect the reality of the diversity of fact sets currently carrying that one label.

And quick as I'm made Queen Bitch of Earth, I intend to get this mess sorted out straightaway.


  No, we keep the term rape, and put it fairly parallel to murder.


And then just as we have various levels of assault, we put in various levels of sexual assault.
 

Right now, we are in a situation with sexual crime vs physical crime that is analogous to where if guy A punches guy B, we call it murder because we have no better word.  Clearly guy A shouldn't be punching guy B, but it isn't murder.

What you suggest serves no purpose and only continues the use, in a legal context, of a word that has been used to mean everything from forcible penetration of a bodily orifice to pouring used motor oil into a storm drain.  It has lost all specificity and only serves to evoke emotion.  I want to take that word away from the sensationalizing news media.

But I don't intent to argue with you.  When you are crowned King Asshole of Planet Earth, do whatthefuckever you want.  I'm going with my original plan.


Banning evil words because some people misuse them? The concept seems vaguely familiar.

Quote me saying I wanted to ban anything.  I'm saying I would like see the criminal codes revised to use different, more meaningful, less emotionally evocative language.  You see this as a problem?  You'd prefer the media screaming about some guy being arrested for RAPE because he turned eighteen the day before him girlfriend did or some other if-it-bleeds-it-leads, sensationalizing, ratings chasing bullshit.
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Never understood why we let a small group of angry fat chicks redefine anything.  
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I saw the thread title as "Refining Rape" for some reason.



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Thats funny my coworkers and I had this same conversation earlier. Generally we all agreed that it would be easier and guessed that in the end it would save us a lot of time, money, trouble.
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Makes too much sense.
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Please explain the following to me:

Say I'm a 25 year old female, and I consume a half-bottle of Dewar's one evening.

If I then climb behind the wheel of my car, I'm 100% responsible for both my actions and any resulting accidents or death. I cannot claim "zero responsibility" because I was "under the influence."

But, instead of driving my car, I engage in drunken physical frivolity with a man. Can I then claim "zero responsibility" for whatever happens physically between us because I was "under the influence", and, accordingly, unable to give consent?

Seems fishy to me. What am I missing here?

Makes too much sense.


Yep!!!
That sort of logic is Rape.
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There was a university back in the 90s that had a school policy where you needed to ask permission to advance to the next step.

"May I remove your headband?"

"May I remove your left shoe?"

"May I remove your right shoe?"

If you didn't ask for permission for each step to the completion of the act, you were a rapist.
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Someone needs this as an avitar.


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There was a university back in the 90s that had a school policy where you needed to ask permission to advance to the next step.

"May I remove your headband?"

"May I remove your left shoe?"

"May I remove your right shoe?"

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While I'd like to say it's obvious the people who came up with that have never had a sexual encounter with anything more romantic than a toilet seat, we all know that's not the case. I want to see a video of beta male and super mili-feminist trying to get it on.

"May I place my lips between your breasts and go like this - brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr?"
"Yes, but you may only go, "brbrbrbrbrbr."

"May I place my hand where there is supposed to be hair on your scrotum?"
"Where is that supposed to be? I've never heard of it."
"It's supposed to be right here. I saw it once when I was raped."
"Who raped you?"
"May I read you the list? It's four pages long."
"Oh my Obama!"
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Interesting article about how everything is becoming rape.  To me it is blazingly clear that no means no, and that if someone cannot say no, then we assume they say no.   But saying no now and yes later, doesn't turn what happens after that yes to rape simply because once there was a no.

Pestering you GF or BF for sex until they finally 'relent' is not rape.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/








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I agree with you completely you're right.  
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While I'd like to say it's obvious the people who came up with that have never had a sexual encounter with anything more romantic than a toilet seat, we all know that's not the case. I want to see a video of beta male and super mili-feminist trying to get it on.

"May I place my lips between your breasts and go like this - brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr?"
"Yes, but you may only go, "brbrbrbrbrbr."

"May I place my hand where there is supposed to be hair on your scrotum?"
"Where is that supposed to be? I've never heard of it."
"It's supposed to be right here. I saw it once when I was raped."
"Who raped you?"
"May I read you the list? It's four pages long."
"Oh my Obama!"
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OK, that's mildly amusing.  Be even more so, if it were a little further from the truth.
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It's a holiday, bro. Go get that beer.



 
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OK, that's mildly amusing.  Be even more so, if it were a little further from the truth.
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While I'd like to say it's obvious the people who came up with that have never had a sexual encounter with anything more romantic than a toilet seat, we all know that's not the case. I want to see a video of beta male and super mili-feminist trying to get it on.

"May I place my lips between your breasts and go like this - brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr?"
"Yes, but you may only go, "brbrbrbrbrbr."

"May I place my hand where there is supposed to be hair on your scrotum?"
"Where is that supposed to be? I've never heard of it."
"It's supposed to be right here. I saw it once when I was raped."
"Who raped you?"
"May I read you the list? It's four pages long."
"Oh my Obama!"

OK, that's mildly amusing.  Be even more so, if it were a little further from the truth.


What I was talking about, is not.
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What I was talking about, is not.
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While I'd like to say it's obvious the people who came up with that have never had a sexual encounter with anything more romantic than a toilet seat, we all know that's not the case. I want to see a video of beta male and super mili-feminist trying to get it on.

"May I place my lips between your breasts and go like this - brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr?"
"Yes, but you may only go, "brbrbrbrbrbr."

"May I place my hand where there is supposed to be hair on your scrotum?"
"Where is that supposed to be? I've never heard of it."
"It's supposed to be right here. I saw it once when I was raped."
"Who raped you?"
"May I read you the list? It's four pages long."
"Oh my Obama!"

OK, that's mildly amusing.  Be even more so, if it were a little further from the truth.


What I was talking about, is not.

I thought the second sentence in my previous post conveyed that message.
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