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Posted: 9/11/2021 1:38:12 PM EDT
What are your thoughts on red dots for carry guns?
I have an RMR on my G19 and will never go back to irons on a carry gun.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:38:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Fucking do it or you're retarded.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:39:52 PM EDT
[#2]
If I were looking for a new carry gun, it would absolutely be a Sig 365 with a reddot.


Speed
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:48:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes.

Speed and accuracy are important in a carry gun.

Now… let’s settle in for the retardation:

- You’ll only have to shoot to 3/5 yards max so just point shoot.
- You’ll never use your sights if you have to use your gun.
- Some kind of derp about never trusting batteries.
- At least one person who doesn’t understand that you leave the optic turned on all the time.
- “I tried it but was searching for the dot all the time so I went back to irons.”
- That one guy who has apparently seen a shit ton of crap-tier MRDSs fail so obviously RMRs also fail at the same rate.
- BUT IT WILL TOTALLY FOG UP.
- Some kind of bullshit about how it is too bulky for carry or it will catch on your clothes during draw/presentation.
- BUT MUH IRONS NEVER FAIL
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:49:43 PM EDT
[#4]
A month ago, my answer was no.

But now I have a P365X with an RDS, and my answer is "the future is now, old man".
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:50:18 PM EDT
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Yes.

Speed and accuracy are important in a carry gun.

Now… let’s settle in for the retardation:

- You’ll only have to shoot to 3/5 yards max so just point shoot.
- You’ll never use your sights if you have to use your gun.
- Some kind of derp about never trusting batteries.
- At least one person who doesn’t understand that you leave the optic turned on all the time.
- “I tried it but was searching for the dot all the time so I went back to irons.”
- That one guy who has apparently seen a shit ton of crap-tier MRDSs fail so obviously RMRs also fail at the same rate.
- BUT IT WILL TOTALLY FOG UP.
- Some kind of bullshit about how it is too bulky for carry or it will catch on your clothes during draw/presentation.
- BUT MUH IRONS NEVER FAIL
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All of those are equally retarded, but I want to say I honestly cannot tell a difference carrying with or without the RMR. Not bulky.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:51:10 PM EDT
[#6]
All day, everyday.


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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:51:15 PM EDT
[#7]
You're racist.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:51:24 PM EDT
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Yes.

Speed and accuracy are important in a carry gun.

Now let's settle in for the retardation:

- You'll only have to shoot to 3/5 yards max so just point shoot.
- You'll never use your sights if you have to use your gun.
- Some kind of derp about never trusting batteries.
- At least one person who doesn't understand that you leave the optic turned on all the time.
- "I tried it but was searching for the dot all the time so I went back to irons."
- That one guy who has apparently seen a shit ton of crap-tier MRDSs fail so obviously RMRs also fail at the same rate.
- BUT IT WILL TOTALLY FOG UP.
- Some kind of bullshit about how it is too bulky for carry or it will catch on your clothes during draw/presentation.
- BUT MUH IRONS NEVER FAIL
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:52:32 PM EDT
[#9]
RMR with suppressor height sights FTW
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:52:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Tag for the inevitable uninformed opinions, these threads are always good for some laughs.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:52:59 PM EDT
[#11]
I’m seriously considering it

My eyes ain’t what they used to be, it’s getting hard to see the irons even with a big white dot on the Trijicon front sight
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:53:24 PM EDT
[#12]
After trying it I won’t go back
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:53:36 PM EDT
[#13]
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A month ago, my answer was no.

But now I have a P365X with an RDS, and my answer is "the future is now, old man".
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It's a fad. You must resist.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:54:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Red dot on CCW?

Yes.

The future is now.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:55:50 PM EDT
[#15]
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I’m seriously considering it

My eyes ain’t what they used to be, it’s getting hard to see the irons even with a big white dot on the Trijicon front sight
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That's what started me down the path. Now that I've arrived, I'd put RMR's on every pistol I could afford to even if my eyesight was still perfect.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:57:33 PM EDT
[#16]
Yes.  Just upgraded my Sig P365 with RMRcc and surefire XSC
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:58:14 PM EDT
[#17]
My astigmatism says no
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:58:48 PM EDT
[#18]
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A fad.

Like the internet.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:59:25 PM EDT
[#19]
All day, every day

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:01:46 PM EDT
[#20]
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Yes.

Speed and accuracy are important in a carry gun.

Now… let’s settle in for the retardation:

- You’ll only have to shoot to 3/5 yards max so just point shoot.
- You’ll never use your sights if you have to use your gun.
- Some kind of derp about never trusting batteries.
- At least one person who doesn’t understand that you leave the optic turned on all the time.
- “I tried it but was searching for the dot all the time so I went back to irons.”
- That one guy who has apparently seen a shit ton of crap-tier MRDSs fail so obviously RMRs also fail at the same rate.
- BUT IT WILL TOTALLY FOG UP.
- Some kind of bullshit about how it is too bulky for carry or it will catch on your clothes during draw/presentation.
- BUT MUH IRONS NEVER FAIL
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Kind of where I am at personally TBH.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:02:32 PM EDT
[#21]
I want to but it seems like it's expensive to get into. And I can't seem to find decently priced ammo to be able to practice it and get it right. Is pretty much the only durable option an RMR or are some of the Holosuns G2G? Maybe the Deltapoint Pro? Also if I already have Trijicon HDs would that be good enough for suppressor height?
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:02:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Yes

The future is now
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:03:02 PM EDT
[#23]
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I want to but it seems like it's expensive to get into. And I can't seem to find decently priced ammo to be able to practice it and get it right. Is pretty much the only durable option an RMR or are some of the Holosuns G2G? Maybe the Deltapoint Pro? Also if I already have Trijicon HDs would that be good enough for suppressor height?
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Dry fire bro
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:03:10 PM EDT
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Kind of where I am at personally TBH.
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Fix it with dryfire for free.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:04:49 PM EDT
[#25]
lol...thinks will have time to turn on a devise, aim and shoot during a shoot-out for your life.  
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:05:03 PM EDT
[#26]
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Dry fire bro
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But isn't part of the difficulty reacquiring the dot after recoil?
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:05:30 PM EDT
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Shit, I was wrong all along. This.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:06:03 PM EDT
[#28]
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He covered that in the OP you leave it on these devices* () you leave on all the time and have battery lives measured in years.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:07:22 PM EDT
[#29]
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I want to but it seems like it's expensive to get into. And I can't seem to find decently priced ammo to be able to practice it and get it right. Is pretty much the only durable option an RMR or are some of the Holosuns G2G? Maybe the Deltapoint Pro? Also if I already have Trijicon HDs would that be good enough for suppressor height?
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Dryfire to snap in.  Confirm with live fire.

Holosun is good to go.

DPP: Gen 1 (green circuit board) are absolutely not durable enough for long term use on a reciprocating slide.  Gen 2 (blue circuit board) might be, but the verdict is still out.  Neither are sufficiently durable for duty use in terms of drops of rough handling.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:07:38 PM EDT
[#30]
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My astigmatism says no
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Even with you will be faster and more accurate than irons
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:08:21 PM EDT
[#31]
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There's one of those uninformed responses I was talking about.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:08:41 PM EDT
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But isn't part of the difficulty reacquiring the dot after recoil?
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Once your presentation is snapped in, that’s the easy part.

Confirm in live fire and learn to shoot the streak.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:09:57 PM EDT
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After trying it I won’t go back
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This and FPNI
RDS handguns are jelly to shot placement's pb
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:09:59 PM EDT
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?
- At least one person who doesn’t understand that you leave the optic turned on all the time.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:10:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Absolutely.

I was skeptical, but I wanted to try it before I made up my mind. I bought a P365XL with a 507k and I'll probably never carry anything else again.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:10:15 PM EDT
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Dry fire bro
But isn't part of the difficulty reacquiring the dot after recoil?


You never lose it if you can shoot your pistol well
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:11:23 PM EDT
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Maybe do 30 seconds of googling an realize there is no off button, auto brightness, use suppressor height sights so if for whatever reason the dot isn't there you still have stone age technology to rely on.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:13:21 PM EDT
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Maybe do 30 seconds of googling an realize there is no off button, auto brightness, use suppressor height sights so if for whatever reason the dot isn't there you still have stone age technology to rely on.
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lol...thinks will have time to turn on a devise, aim and shoot during a shoot-out for your life.  



Maybe do 30 seconds of googling an realize there is no off button, auto brightness, use suppressor height sights so if for whatever reason the dot isn't there you still have stone age technology to rely on.


I prefer to shoot right through my Members Only jacket pocket; all the while you're all turning latches and punching in codes on your fancy electric sights.


Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:13:57 PM EDT
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I know you're kidding, but my 507k will turn on just by breathing on it. I'm surprised how sensitive it is.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:14:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Meh.

I have plenty of rounds on an RMR’d Glock.

I RMR all the things. Because reasons. And I hate money.

From entanglement out to  10 yards or so it’s a wash.

I’ll still be carrying an iron sighted G43 because it’s little, it’s light, it’s cheap, and I’m lazy.

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:14:44 PM EDT
[#41]
I went RMR and now I can go back to irons.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:17:40 PM EDT
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My astigmatism says no
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@CircaSid

Same here, My 509T has an additional circle-dot reticle that really helps locate dead center of POI, only additional thing would be to find the most accurate brightness that is still quick w/ wml on or bright day.

The brighter it is in front of you, the finer the dot will be
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:19:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Where to send pistol off to get milled? Don't even think of saying tooth and nail armory.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:20:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Red dot all the things.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:23:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Y'all do you'all.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:32:50 PM EDT
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Will do.
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:35:06 PM EDT
[#47]
when the acro p-2 comes out, i'll look into it
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:37:14 PM EDT
[#48]
I'm going to try it on a Stacatto.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:37:55 PM EDT
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I have one ordered. (Who knows when it will come)

The only problem with the Acro is it isn't compatible with premade optic cuts for RMR and Holosun.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:37:55 PM EDT
[#50]
I tried it but didn't see what it brought to the table other than something else to fail.
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