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Posted: 1/3/2012 9:55:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 6:16:15 AM EDT by pat0126]
I need recommendations for a new carry gun for my wife. Requirements *9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily. Thanks in advance.


Update

**I think I have her talked into the M&P compact with thumb safety. Thanks guys **
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:04:42 AM EDT
Have you considered a .380?

I know plenty of girls who CCW Bersa .380s.
Also, I CCW a Bersa .380 (but I'm a non-fat dude).



Speed
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:05:36 AM EDT
pk380 or p99 get a p22 for practice
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:06:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pat0126:
I need recommendations for a new carry gun for my wife. Requirements *9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily. Thanks in advance.


s&w 3913
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:06:50 AM EDT
HK P30 if size isn't an issue.

HK P2000SK otherwise.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:08:10 AM EDT
Damn the manual safety.


Ohh..officer model 1911 in 9mm. Springfield and kimber make them

Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:09:37 AM EDT
She already carries a Walther ppk but wants a slightly larger round (9mm). I was looking at the CZ 2075 thought?
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:10:25 AM EDT
I could swear we have a handgun forum...complete with a CCW section...
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:11:09 AM EDT
Damn the safety...S&W J Frame...nothing to do but point and shoot
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:11:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ex_dsmr:
I could swear we have a handgun forum...complete with a CCW section...


Really no need for your input then please ignore the post if you have nothing to contribute.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:12:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pat0126:
She already carries a Walther ppk but wants a slightly larger round (9mm). I was looking at the CZ 2075 thought?


Manual safety, sa/da aside, she owns a walther.

Has she tried the PPS? Excellent profile for a carry gun in 9mm.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:12:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:14:44 AM EDT
Why is DA/SA a requirement ?
She like 2 different trigger pulls ?
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:15:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Keib:
Originally Posted By pat0126:
She already carries a Walther ppk but wants a slightly larger round (9mm). I was looking at the CZ 2075 thought?


Manual safety, sa/da aside, she owns a walther.

Has she tried the PPS? Excellent profile for a carry gun in 9mm.


She has not tried it, she has the issue with da/sa manual safety. She will shoot anything you hand her, but carrying it is different. I guess I should just be happy she carries.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:15:33 AM EDT
the lc9 has a manual safety but iirc is DAO.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:15:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2012 10:16:46 AM EDT by Cole2534]
P229
N/M, missed the manual safety thing.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:16:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Lightning1960:
Why is DA/SA a requirement ?
She like 2 different trigger pulls ?


It's not me, it's her she likes the idea of being able to have the hammer down and on safe. I know, I know....

Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:17:54 AM EDT
Glock 19.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:18:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:18:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cole2534:
P229
N/M, missed the manual safety thing.


Funny thing is I have a P226 that she loves, she just would not be comfortable carrying it.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:18:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:18:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:
HK P30 if size isn't an issue.

HK P2000SK otherwise.


beat me to it
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:19:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bob243:


this


I have been looking at CZ's they seem very nice. Any insight on the 2075?
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:19:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ex_dsmr:
I could swear we have a handgun forum...complete with a CCW section...

It would take 6 days to get this much feedback
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:20:44 AM EDT
If not for the safety requirement, I would recommend a Kahr PM or MK9. I just got an MK9. Very well put together, easy shooting for a compact and fairly accurate for a compact. I put 200 rounds through it yesterday without a hiccup. The MK9 has a metal frame, so it's on the heavy side.


Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:21:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By pat0126:
She already carries a Walther ppk but wants a slightly larger round (9mm). I was looking at the CZ 2075 thought?


The DA/SA is a problem looking for a solution. No need for it, and it makes it harder to train.

Pick a SA only, or a DAO/Safe action type handgun and be done with it.

BTW the Ruger LC9 is a DAO type pistol that is compact, has a small enough group for a woman to easily handle (my wife and 10 year old daughter shoot it), and the gun has a manual safety (1911 like).

The trigger is a long 'double action' type pull that is light.


My buddy has an LC9. I will hit him up and see if he can bring it on our next range day.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:22:26 AM EDT
I'd say HK P30. Might be a bit big, but it's my favorite pistol.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:25:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Damn the manual safety.


Ohh..officer model 1911 in 9mm. Springfield and kimber make them



Ya I'm gonna look into the 1911 idea.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:28:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
Originally Posted By pat0126:
I need recommendations for a new carry gun for my wife. Requirements *9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily. Thanks in advance.


s&w 3913


Yep, thin single stack, small and easy to conceal.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:30:54 AM EDT
Good on you for wanting a manual safety for her - very smart - most here are just too damn professional for them. I can't help but sadly laugh ever time I read about some fool's AD into the wall or his hand or foot with a Glock. But to each his own.

Beretta 92types (and the Taurus clones) are always nice, but not so much for really small hands due to the trigger reach. I see on the Taurus site that their 24/7 series may now all have manual safeties, but I suspect they are still "partially cocked" striker fired designs.

If you are not opposed to a used piece, you may want to consider a fine S&W third gen metal frame model (I could still almost cry when considering they have stopped making them), like a 3913 (regular or in ladysmith guise if you can find one), or a 6906. These are top tier pistols, built like precision tanks, that will last a lifetime and never let you down, with manual safeties and magazine disconnects. God they don't make them like they used to. Good luck.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:31:18 AM EDT
Good on you for wanting a manual safety for her - very smart - most here are just too damn professional for them. I can't help but sadly laugh ever time I read about some fool's AD into the wall or his hand or foot with a Glock. But to each his own.

Beretta 92types (and the Taurus clones) are always nice, but not so much for really small hands due to the trigger reach. I see on the Taurus site that their 24/7 series may now all have manual safeties, but I suspect they are still "partially cocked" striker fired designs.

If you are not opposed to a used piece, you may want to consider a fine S&W third gen metal frame model (I could still almost cry when considering they have stopped making them), like a 3913 (regular or in ladysmith guise if you can find one), or a 6906. These are top tier pistols, built like precision tanks, that will last a lifetime and never let you down, with manual safeties and magazine disconnects. God they don't make them like they used to. Good luck.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:32:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pat0126:
Originally Posted By Bob243:


this


I have been looking at CZ's they seem very nice. Any insight on the 2075?

I can't, but bump for someone who can..
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:32:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pat0126:
Originally Posted By Bob243:


this


I have been looking at CZ's they seem very nice. Any insight on the 2075?

I don't think too many people here have a 2075.

I'd personally lean towards one of the more traditional 75 based designs as I am coming to the conclusion that the CZ 75 is the best hangun... <Clarkson>IN THE WORLD</Clarkson>.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:33:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
Originally Posted By pat0126:
I need recommendations for a new carry gun for my wife. Requirements *9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily. Thanks in advance.


s&w 3913


This is your answer.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:34:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Butternut:
Good on you for wanting a manual safety for her - very smart - most here are just too damn professional for them. I can't help but sadly laugh ever time I read about some fool's AD into the wall or his hand or foot with a Glock. But to each his own.

Beretta 92types (and the Taurus clones) are always nice, but not so much for really small hands due to the trigger reach. I see on the Taurus site that their 24/7 series may now all have manual safeties, but I suspect they are still "partially cocked" striker fired designs.

If you are not opposed to a used piece, you may want to consider a fine S&W third gen metal frame model (I could still almost cry when considering they have stopped making them), like a 3913 (regular or in ladysmith guise if you can find one), or a 6906. These are top tier pistols, built like precision tanks, that will last a lifetime and never let you down, with manual safeties and magazine disconnects. God they don't make them like they used to. Good luck.


I've not had the pleasure of shooting a 3913 yet but I'll check it out.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:35:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pat0126:
*9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily.

Ouch, that's hard. As others have said, my first thought is to a S&W 3913 (ladysmith or otherwise). Just a shame they do not make them any more. New, I'd go for P2000SK, but for a petite woman, the Kahr's or the Walther PPS may be a much better fit IMHO if you can adjust your trigger and manual safety needs. (Although you can get a MA-approved PM9 with manual safety)

Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:36:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
Originally Posted By pat0126:
I need recommendations for a new carry gun for my wife. Requirements *9mm *DA/SA *Must have a manual safety and must be compact enough for a petite woman to conceal easily. Thanks in advance.


s&w 3913


WINNER!

(there are several similar variants like the 908 that are basically the same as well)

Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:36:14 AM EDT
The fear of not having a safety is a training issue.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:36:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2012 10:37:57 AM EDT by Schroedum]




My wife shoots the Bersa Thunder 380 CC

And a note, the malfunctions I recorded have gone away. It was only breaking in, its a good 100% now.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:38:12 AM EDT
For the safety conscious, a P7 PSP can't be beat. No pistol is safer. A tad heavy though...

Do not try to make her a 'tier 1' candidate. The safety is silly when the hammer is down, but hammer down is perfectly sane in a DA pistol. Dumb is a Glock without an appropriate trigger covering holster.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:38:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rhino73:
I'd say HK P30. Might be a bit big, but it's my favorite pistol.


I'll second this. Just make sure you get the one with the lever safety so she can flip it on if that's her preference. It's comparable size wise to a G19.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:39:25 AM EDT
If she's already used to a slide-mounted safety, a 3913 or a Beretta Type M would be a natural choice.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:39:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2012 10:41:29 AM EDT by AANG]
Has she shot a Beretta PX4 subcompact in 9mm (Type F or Type G - type D is DAO)?

Seems to fit her needs quite well, I really like those little guns. Ended up selling mine as I carry the PM9 whenever a full size doesn't work, but it was a great pistol.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:40:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SkagSig40:
The fear of not having a safety is a training issue.

Not everybody is militarized...


Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:40:20 AM EDT
Compact Beretta PX4 Storm is a nice pistol and meets your DA/SA and safety requirement
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:40:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tbougie1:
Damn the safety...S&W J Frame...nothing to do but point and shoot


642
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:40:47 AM EDT
My wife used a Sig 239 until she eventually ditched it for a G19.

The 239 is a quality firearm and hers was accurate and reliable. One bonus is the slide is easy to operate (something many women have issues with).

She had trouble with my CZ P01.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:42:31 AM EDT
I was going to say Sig P239 until I saw manual safety.....So I still say Sig 239.


Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:42:31 AM EDT
You guys are awesome, thanks for all the help.
Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:44:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cheesebeast:
My wife used a Sig 239 until she eventually ditched it for a G19.

The 239 is a quality firearm and hers was accurate and reliable. One bonus is the slide is easy to operate (something many women have issues with).

She had trouble with my CZ P01.


I was going to say 239 but noticed the safety req


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Link Posted: 1/3/2012 10:45:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AANG:
Has she shot a Beretta PX4 subcompact in 9mm (Type F or Type G - type D is DAO)?

Seems to fit her needs quite well, I really like those little guns. Ended up selling mine as I carry the PM9 whenever a full size doesn't work, but it was a great pistol.


No, but I like what I've read. Any issues feeding defense ammo?
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