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1/22/2020 12:12:56 PM
Posted: 11/22/2012 7:48:00 PM EST
"What can men do against such reckless hate?"


-Theoden, The Two Towers.

Seriously, there is a lot of it in the world now. Islam vs the West is my main example.

What can we do?
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:49:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:50:21 PM EST
Don't invite people with incompatible views to come live with you would be a good start.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:50:30 PM EST


Rush in Rio rocks.

Glass the middle east? I might be down with that.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:51:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:


Rush in Rio rocks.

Glass the middle east? I might be down with that.


Indeed it does, one of my favorite albums!

To clarify - specifically WRT "radical Islam" - there is no negotiating with an enemy who is wholly convinced that killing you is the right thing to do.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:54:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:
"What can men do against such reckless hate?"


-Theoden, The Two Towers.

Seriously, there is a lot of it in the world now. Islam vs the West is my main example.

What can we do?


Nothing we can do, that's what happens when you have large populations of people on both sides sporting double digit intelligence quotients that still live in the 30AD-700AD world. Gotta kill the other guy because he doesn't believe my book and in my god.

Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:55:07 PM EST
As Aragorn said, "Ride, ride out to meet it"
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 7:58:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By shooter69:
Don't invite people with incompatible views to come live with you would be a good start.


Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:01:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By shooter69:
Don't invite people with incompatible views to come live with you would be a good start.


Yup.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:08:29 PM EST
Ride out and meet it head on.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:14:06 PM EST
Im here for the hate-fest. Who do we start hating first???

Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:20:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Im here for the hate-fest. Who do we start hating first???



Democrats?
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:24:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:
Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Im here for the hate-fest. Who do we start hating first???



Democrats?


Ive been hating them, for a looong time!
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:25:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By phurba:

To clarify - specifically WRT "radical Islam" - there is no negotiating with an enemy who is wholly convinced that killing you is the right thing to do.


And that dying in the attempt is the way into Heaven.

Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:25:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:29:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:31:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:


Er, what?


"All that hate's gonna burn you up, kid."

"It keeps me warm."
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:49:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By shooter69:
Don't invite people with incompatible views to come live with you would be a good start.


Especially if their ideas are completely intolerant to the existence of civilization itself.

Link Posted: 11/22/2012 9:02:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 9:42:59 PM EST
All that hate must be contained.
Under a glass parking lot.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 9:57:14 PM EST
"Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn. Forth, Eorlingas!"
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 10:08:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:
"What can men do against such reckless hate?"


-Theoden, The Two Towers.

Seriously, there is a lot of it in the world now. Islam vs the West is my main example.

What can we do?

When you watch the news, it's easy to get the impression that Islam and the West are at war. They show videos of riots by American embassies and you get the impression that all Muslims protest the USA and hate the USA.

When in reality, 95% of the rest of that country, the people are going about their daily lives.

You think the million mom march means all American women hate guns and want them banned?
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 10:57:09 PM EST
I hate leftists. That's not a reckless hate. That is both a righteous and an intellectual hate rolled up into one.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 11:00:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/22/2012 11:01:50 PM EST by Qweevox]
The first thing Americans need to do is face reality, and embrace the fact that a free society isn't "safe", freedom isn't "safe". You can't build up enough "homeland security", hire enough LEO's, or write enough laws to make it safe. If you try all you will succeed at doing is sacrificing your liberty for the illusion of safety. Crawling into a statist cage isn't the answer.

There are things we can do. The United States can become energy independent in 10-15 years, if we can get .gov out of the way. That's a huge step towards making the middle east less relevant. We can start by ending our progressive involvement in their countries. Even when our intention is to help them, it just ends badly for us. Nation-building does not work. They're going to need to figure out their own problems. If we weren't a focal point for their anger over the mess they live in maybe they'd "grow up" as a culture over time. I don't know, and I don't care. I just want to quit spending "future" tax dollars over there.

Instead of spending our defense budget on the Middle East how about stepping up our R&D on weapons systems, like missile defense, early warning systems, modernizing our nuclear deterrent? How about only using our military for war, instead of global police and nation-builders? How about shrinking our government, and reducing our bureaucracy so we can unleash the power of freedom in the economy, and maintain our economic power? How about getting back our American "traditional values" of individual liberty?

There's lots of things we can do, the problem is we won't learn from history, we keep on repeating mistakes.





Link Posted: 11/22/2012 11:45:07 PM EST
“I hate nobody except Hitler––and that is professional.”

―Sir Winston Churchill

Link Posted: 11/23/2012 7:31:12 PM EST
Is the FSA volunteer or draft?
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