I just saw this George Washington University discussion on CSPAN3 today. It's just over an hour.
I'd encourage every arfcommer to view it and really listen to (and think about) what the one panelist, Mr William Lind, has to say about the use of warfare as a foreign policy tool in modern times.
I'd never heard of him before, but he sure takes the other panelists to school and makes them look utterly childish - IHMO, of course. It's hosted by some conservative group, but the others in the panel leaned more Progressive - certainly, the one from the Center for American Progress (talk about an oxymoron!). The host, maybe not so much, but the third guy was rolling his eyes a lot at what Mr Lind had to say - proving himself a smug, know-it-all brat - again, IMHO.
Check out what Lind has to say. He makes a shit-ton of sense and I'll be curious to hear if ya'll agree.
CSPAN Discussion Panel
*Oh! Turn it up all the way. The volume left a lot to be desired.