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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:41:01 AM EDT
I've kept hams I bought on sale for up to 15 months then thawed, baked and served several them to rave reviews. These are vacuum sealed (by mfg) bone in hams. Am I flirting with food poisoning here or are food safety storage times for freezing overly cautious?

Food safety.gov advises 1-2 months.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:44:10 AM EDT
I keep stuff that long. I always thought poisoning wasn't the issue but just bad tasting food. Maybe it's both though.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:45:13 AM EDT
Everything starts to taste off after 8-12 months, even when properly sealed.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:47:07 AM EDT
I recently slow cooked a roast that was in the freezer for almost 2 years it came out fine
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:47:51 AM EDT
Vacuum sealing prior to freezing has a very long shelf life.

This quick google find for vacuumed and frozen is showing 3 years for meats. click

I suspect its longer than that though
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:47:59 AM EDT
Are we talking about frost free freezer or a proper deep freezer?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:49:14 AM EDT
About six months less than whenever I always seem to pull stuff out.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:55:23 AM EDT
Someone share some science.

Why does meet, if vacuum sealed and promptly frozen, degrade some how over time?

Why can't we dig up a mammoth and have a bbq?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:57:02 AM EDT
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Someone share some science.

Why does meet, if vacuum sealed and promptly frozen, degrade some how over time?

Why can't we dig up a mammoth and have a bbq?
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ice crystals will always grow.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:00:43 PM EDT
Freezer burn is pretty much your only enemy.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:06:28 PM EDT
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Also, most, maybe all, plastics allow the transmission of some water vapor and air. Over a long period of time, the food dehydrates. That's most of what freezer burn is.

I eat food that's been in the freezer 6 months or more all the time. I doubt there's any risk of food poisoning. It's just degradation in quality that you have to worry about.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:07:40 PM EDT
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Someone share some science.

Why does meet, if vacuum sealed and promptly frozen, degrade some how over time?

Why can't we dig up a mammoth and have a bbq?
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Dehydration and oxidation.  Water freezes and then the ice sublimates.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:24:25 PM EDT
Last year I found some venison stew meat that was 2 year sold in the bottom of my freezer. Put it in the crock pot and it came out fine. This was vacuum sealed so that is probably the only reason it was still good.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:28:59 PM EDT
Thanks for the answers, but now my misspelling of meat is quoted forever.

FWIW, I've pulled elk sausage after several years without ill effect. Can't expound on the flavor because we throw it in chili, or mix it with burger, etc.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:30:26 PM EDT
You can store properly packaged food in a freezer for over a year without any change in texture and taste in my experience.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:33:47 PM EDT
When growing up we used to buy beef in bulk twice a year and keep them in a upright deep freezer.  We cooked and ate beef that were frozen for 6+ months and they were always great tasting and didn't notice anything different.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:34:17 PM EDT
My grand parents would eats stuff over a decade past the date they put it in. They were surviviors of the great depression.  They had 2 huge freezers. Nothing was ever wasted


I remember one time when i was 33 and visited my grandmother cooked up fish i caught off their pier when i was 12.  It tasted fine and that was many, many years ago
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:37:48 PM EDT
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Yep.
I have meat that I vacuum sealed and then put in my chest freezer that is pushing two years old and it still looks and tastes great!
The chest freezer is at -10 degrees Fahrenheit.
Foods that I vacuum seal and keep in my refrigerator freezer (at zero degrees) I like to use within one year.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:45:23 PM EDT
AFAIK, bad flavor from freezer burn is the only issue.

A few months ago I thawed out and ate pack of sloppy joe meat that had been vacuum sealed and lost in our chest freezer circa 2008.  As far as I could tell, there was nothing wrong or off with the taste or texture.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:12:21 PM EDT
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My grand parents would eats stuff over a decade past the date they put it in. They were surviviors of the great depression.  They had 2 huge freezers. Nothing was ever wasted


I remember one time when i was 33 and visited my grandmother cooked up fish i caught off their pier when i was 12.  It tasted fine and that was many, many years ago
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Are you joking or serious?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:18:33 PM EDT
12ish months until you start seeing or tasting a difference.
Probably several years until it degraded enough to risk food poisoning.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:21:41 PM EDT
years if it's sealed up correctly
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:23:50 PM EDT
I'd think you'd get better results in a chest freezer than in an upright one.  In a chest freezer everything is sitting in a bath of cold air.  Temp would hardly ever change at all.  In an upright, ever time you open to put stuff in or take it out you lose chill.  But, that's a WAG.  What do I know.   Wife eats the old stuff, I can't stand it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:24:09 PM EDT
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I've kept hams I bought on sale for up to 15 months then thawed, baked and served several them to rave reviews. These are vacuum sealed (by mfg) bone in hams. Am I flirting with food poisoning here or are food safety storage times for freezing overly cautious?

Food safety.gov advises 1-2 months.
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You won't get food poisoning but taste may suffer.  Lean meats will last even longer without even the flavor changing much.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:34:11 PM EDT
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Someone share some science.

Why does meet, if vacuum sealed and promptly frozen, degrade some how over time?

Why can't we dig up a mammoth and have a bbq?
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Freezing slows down the decaying process.

Can't stop nature, it always wins.

Maybe if we could store things in absolute zero?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:47:59 PM EDT
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I've kept hams I bought on sale for up to 15 months then thawed, baked and served several them to rave reviews. These are vacuum sealed (by mfg) bone in hams. Am I flirting with food poisoning here or are food safety storage times for freezing overly cautious?

Food safety.gov advises 1-2 months.
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I have eaten things five years later. Pretty good too, as long as it's not freezer burned.
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