Raffle for a [b]NEW Style[/b] Cav-Arms lower, Winners are in!!!!

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Raffle for a [b]NEW Style[/b] Cav-Arms lower, Winners are in!!!! (Page 1 of 3)

Posted: 3/13/2003 8:25:49 PM EDT

A few weeks ago my best friend of 23 of my 33 years decided to end his life. His name was Pat Eckford. Pat was a shooter and a great guy, he went with Gunbert, FirearmTom1 and I to the Crossroads show in Phoenix last July and met Shawn from Cav-Arms. No one has any idea why he did this and his mom who lives on a fixed income has had to cash out her CD's to afford to bury her son. She had him buried on top of his father who died almost 10 years earlier to the day he died. The funeral was very simple and it still ran over $12,000. Shawn from Cav-Arms has donated a [b]new style[/b] Cav-Arms stripped lower (value of $175), there are also other prizes, look below to see. The tickets are $5 each and no limit to buy. The raffle will end on April 18th at midnight and I will have at least 3 AR15.com team members here to help me with the drawing on April 19th.

[red]The prize list is growing due to the generosity of some great members of this site. Here is the updated prize list.
1. A new style Cav-Arms stripped lower from the guys at Cav-Arms, valued at $175.[url]www.cavalryarms.com[/url][/red] [b]Winner: Miranthis[/b]

2. ASOD M95 Combat Drinking System from [url]www.combatdrinkingsystem.com[/url] Retails for $185. [b]Winner: LOKT[/b]

3. Az Expertarms is donating a free refinish of any firearm in parkote, moly over park finish, a 175-220 dollar value. [url][b]www.azexarms.com[/b][/url] [b]Winner: Mzzlebrk[/b]

4. Lippman Enterprises will Donate A First Samco(Fobus) M-33 Handguard with Picatinny Rails and A Vertical Grip that will Mount on the Bottom Rail. Retail Value 130.00 [url]http://www.lippman-enterprises.com/[/url][b]Winner: Mzzlebrk[/b]

5. An AR15 Custom Tactical Carbine Class donated by Protac Global! A $175 value. [url]http://www.protacglobal.com/cal/index.cfm?FuseCalendar_ID=56&CurntDate=05/19/2003&FuseAction=ShowEvent[/url] [b]Winner: Southern Shark @ Full Auto.com[/b]

6. A new Ka-Bar USMC Fighting Knife model KB1217 donated by Aimless [b]Winner: Reddobie[/b]

7. A Benchmade 350 SBT (Black Teflon 2 Coated) liner lock knife (new in box) donated by AFARR [b]Winner: Durk[/b]

8. A new Cold Steel Bushman donated by tc6969 [b]Winner: Kychas[/b]

9. Tapco Tactical Mag Chest Harness donated by Sixgun357 [b]Winner: Reddobie[/b]

10. 2 like new 20 round Thermold magazines donated by Cerebus. [b]Winner: Addecus[/b]

11. Any three items from Bastiat's online store..[url]http://www.libertyoutlet.com/store/bystore.html?store=2[/url] Good luck picking what 3 you want, it ALL looks good. [b]Winner: Nwatson99[/b]

12. Cody of Magazine Specialties is donating 25 Orange Followers [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=125[/url][b]Winner: Mzzlebrk[/b]

13. (5) USGI's NIW donated by Stokes and myself. These will be raffled of indvidually, so 5 prizes.
[b]Winners:
1. Nwatson99
2. Edpmedic
3. Cduarte
4. Works4me
5. Smokshwn[/b]

My email if you need to contact me is [email][email protected][/email].

I will present her the a check on behalf of all the members of AR15.com. Thanks to all who participate. Bob

Posted: 3/13/2003 8:39:29 PM EDT

[#1]

USPS MO on the way in the AM. I am sorry about your loss.

Posted: 3/13/2003 8:42:14 PM EDT

[#2]

I'm in. I cancelled PayPal, so I'll mail my contribution.

Please send my condolences to the family.

Posted: 3/13/2003 9:11:53 PM EDT

[#3]

i'll see if i can scrounge up some money in my checking account...i am a little low this month. but i;ll try to send a check this week.

Posted: 3/13/2003 9:14:52 PM EDT

[#4]

[>Q] I'm sorry for your loss of a friend, and the loss those who love him are feeling... Prayers sent for his family, as that's all I can afford right now. [V] I hope you don't mind... [:(]

Sincerely saddened by your loss,
-iNuhBaDNayburhoodPrayingForHisFamily&Friends

Posted: 3/13/2003 9:35:41 PM EDT

[#5]

I'm in. Funds sent via PayPal.

Posted: 3/13/2003 9:37:05 PM EDT

[#6]

Payment sent via PayPal. I'm sorry for your loss.

USPC40

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Posted: 3/13/2003 10:13:12 PM EDT

[#7]

I can't be in the raffle since I'm one of the people who's going to keep Wolfpack honest at the drawing, but I'm in for a little cash anyway.

Posted: 3/13/2003 11:44:57 PM EDT

[#8]

Paypal sent

Posted: 3/14/2003 12:03:48 AM EDT

[#9]

Rounds out

Posted: 3/14/2003 4:44:38 AM EDT

[#10]

[:(]

Posted: 3/14/2003 5:49:37 AM EDT

[#11]

Check inbound.

scoke.

Posted: 3/14/2003 6:16:00 AM EDT

[#12]

Count me in for a $50.00 donation.

[b]no raffle for me please. I just want to donate.[/b]

Good luck on raising some funds.

Posted: 3/14/2003 11:18:07 AM EDT

[#13]

check is out bound..

NO tickets for me.. I never win anyway

Posted: 3/14/2003 3:10:20 PM EDT

[#14]

I'm in. My condolences to the family. If anyone reading this feels like life is just not worth living anymore, please reconsider. If you need someone to talk to please feel free to contact myself or the board. We all have problems, some problems just seem to be too much to handle. Please talk it over before doing something drastic. Many of us have been there and can relate, let's stick together.

Posted: 3/14/2003 11:04:58 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I'm in. My condolences to the family. If anyone reading this feels like life is just not worth living anymore, please reconsider. If you need someone to talk to please feel free to contact myself or the board. We all have problems, some problems just seem to be too much to handle. Please talk it over before doing something drastic. Many of us have been there and can relate, let's stick together.

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I want to second that and Reitterate. If you do have thoughts of ending it all, you have NO IDEA of the pain and damage that you leave behind for your friends and family to have to deal with. If you want to hurt yourself, you have to ask if you really want to hurt the ones that love you.

Six years and countless therapy sessions for me on the loss of a dear friend left me scarred for life.

I will send what I can. im truly sorry for your loss. And his poor mom... Heaven help and guide her. [V]

Posted: 3/14/2003 11:59:44 PM EDT

[#16]

I've got a pair of NIW USGI 30rd mags that I can send you if you'd like to add a 5th and 6th place winner. Shoot me an address and I'll mail them off.

Posted: 3/15/2003 1:32:08 AM EDT

[#17]

I never fail to be in awe at the kindness shown by members of this board...............

Posted: 3/15/2003 3:30:09 AM EDT

[#18]

That is very tragic, and unnecessary. I'll never understand why this happens. My heart goes out to the mother, I'm very sorry. After work on Sunday I'll send a few bucks to help out.

Posted: 3/15/2003 4:35:57 AM EDT

[#19]

sorry about the terrible loss, paypal sent.

Posted: 3/15/2003 6:03:27 AM EDT

[#20]

Paypal sent, glad I could something to help around here. Payment for all of the good reading.

Please accept my deepest sympathy for Ms. Eckford and yourself.

Posted: 3/15/2003 11:08:03 AM EDT

[#21]

Wolfpack had to drive a U-Haul to CA this weekend. I do not think that he will be able to respond to the post or e-mails.

Stoke, I know that he will greatly appreciate the mags. He is going to contact other vendors first part of the week to try to increase the "prizes".

Thanks again for all of your support.

Tom

Posted: 3/15/2003 12:44:51 PM EDT

[#22]

Bob, Im in for $50. If I win, I would like you to re-raffle the items.

I just lost my grandmother so I know how expensive it is to bury a loved one. A good way to save some major bucks is to order the casket though one of the wholesalers. You can easily find one online. They delivered a nice casket for 50% of the cost of the funeral home. The funeral home by law has to take delivery of the casket. The companies will truck it to the home within 24hours. Better yet get a print out of the cost and a lot of the funeral homes will match. I got the exact same brand name walnut casket for about $1800 delivered. The same one in the funeral home was $3500. I asked them and they said they would match but was too late to stop the delivery.

Best wishes to the family.

Posted: 3/15/2003 4:23:39 PM EDT

[#23]

Hey guys..I'm speechless! I want to thank all of you who are participating and have donated, it's unbelieveable. I just got home from L.A. We packed all of Pat's belongings on Friday and drove the U-Haul to L.A. Friday night, unpacked this morning and drove home. His mother doesn't know about this and won't until it's over, she is gonna be floored. Thanks again...Bob

Posted: 3/15/2003 8:33:18 PM EDT

[#24]

DrFrige:
If you do have thoughts of ending it all, you have NO IDEA of the pain and damage that you leave behind for your friends and family to have to deal with.

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Good point DrFrige, that's been the only thing stopping [u]me[/u] for awhile now...

-

Sorry for his family's and your loss Wolfpack.

Posted: 3/16/2003 11:55:35 AM EDT

[#25]

I'm in.

Posted: 3/16/2003 6:35:35 PM EDT

[#26]

Count me in too!

Posted: 3/17/2003 5:07:37 PM EDT

[#27]

Check in the mail.

Posted: 3/18/2003 12:18:29 AM EDT

[#28]

I'll have a cheque moving ASAP unless i can get my paypal up. I dont have much (fixed student income), but i'll try to get something in the mail.

This is a horrible tradgedy, a tremendous loss, and i hope that i can help in any way possible...

Posted: 3/18/2003 7:17:19 AM EDT

[#29]

Sorry about your friend, I'm in for 2.
Dave

Posted: 3/18/2003 9:32:34 AM EDT

[#30]

Paypal sent
Wolfpack, You da man! Thanks for inspiring me.

Posted: 3/18/2003 1:51:35 PM EDT

[#31]

Lippman Enterprises will Donate A M-33 Handguard and Vertical Grip retail Value $130.00 Plus
Thank you ,
Bob, Marianne ,Jessica and "COCOA" Lippman
Lippman Enterprises

Posted: 3/18/2003 1:57:17 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Lippman Enterprises will Donate A M-33 Handguard and Vertical Grip retail Value $130.00 Plus
Thank you ,
Bob, Marianne ,Jessica and "COCOA" Lippman
Lippman Enterprises

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Thanks guys!

Posted: 3/18/2003 2:54:33 PM EDT

[#33]

I am in with FirearmTom1...Will send a donation. No tickets needed.

Posted: 3/18/2003 9:01:12 PM EDT

[#34]

I'm in

Posted: 3/19/2003 1:05:14 PM EDT

[#35]

New prizes added! Protac Global, Magazine Specialties, Lippman Enterprises have all come through...

Posted: 3/20/2003 7:06:37 AM EDT

[#36]

My condolences to you and his family, Bob.

What a senseless way to leave this world.

Paypal is inbound to [email protected].

May the good Lord be with you and those left behind.

Posted: 3/20/2003 9:00:35 AM EDT

[#37]

Paypal Incoming

Glad to help a good cause.

mzzlebrk

Posted: 3/20/2003 12:36:52 PM EDT

[#38]

paypal sent for 5

Posted: 3/20/2003 2:56:40 PM EDT

[#39]

Got all 3 of you down for tix.

Posted: 3/20/2003 6:09:37 PM EDT

[#40]

Put me down for 2 tickets. Payment sent via paypal.

556mm

Posted: 3/21/2003 3:51:35 PM EDT

[#41]

I never knew Pat, But I just felt the need to help. I had an AR15.com member in the past and I just want to pass on the help I got. I Just happened to be ordering a Tactical Mag chest pouch. Thought maybe someone out there might want one too.

Posted: 3/22/2003 10:04:58 PM EDT

[#42]

Aimless sent me the USMC Ka-Bar knife...here it is.

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Thanks Aimless!! Someone is gonna get this baby!

Posted: 3/22/2003 10:06:31 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
I never knew Pat, But I just felt the need to help. I had an AR15.com member in the past and I just want to pass on the help I got. I Just happened to be ordering a Tactical Mag chest pouch. Thought maybe someone out there might want one too.

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Thanks Sixgun357!! If you ever need anything let me know, I appreciate this more than you know. I'll put the winner in contact with you after the drawing!

Posted: 3/23/2003 12:31:22 AM EDT

[#44]

Money inbound via US Mail.

Posted: 3/23/2003 9:07:57 AM EDT

[#45]

Just curious, how much have you collected? It's amazing what we can accomplish when everyone gives just a little.

Posted: 3/23/2003 4:07:28 PM EDT

[#46]

Wolfpack,

This is a very nice gesture. I applaud you.

However, I must ask one question:

Have you verified the legality of this raffle? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but these raffles for friends were tried on other boards, and found to be in violation of some state laws. Particularly if the prizes involve firearms or if they are valued over certain limits.

Basically, the raffle could fall under the gambling statutes. When these other raffles were checked, they were not in compliance. Most participants chose to just "donate" their raffle money, rather than receive a prize.

If all has been checked, please respond and count me in.

Posted: 3/23/2003 4:44:33 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
Wolfpack,

This is a very nice gesture. I applaud you.

However, I must ask one question:

Have you verified the legality of this raffle? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but these raffles for friends were tried on other boards, and found to be in violation of some state laws. Particularly if the prizes involve firearms or if they are valued over certain limits.

[red]Basically, the raffle could fall under the gambling statutes.[/red] When these other raffles were checked, they were not in compliance. Most participants chose to just "donate" their raffle money, rather than receive a prize.

If all has been checked, please respond and count me in.

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Good thing I live in [b]Las Vegas[/b]. [banana]

I doubt the gubmint really cares about a little raffle, I do know the Cheif of Police and most of the City Council members though...I think I'm o.k. [;)]

Posted: 3/23/2003 5:07:28 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
Just curious, how much have you collected? It's amazing what we can accomplish when everyone gives just a little.

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I haven't totalled it all up yet but it's around $900.

Posted: 3/23/2003 7:17:35 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wolfpack,

This is a very nice gesture. I applaud you.

However, I must ask one question:

Have you verified the legality of this raffle? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but these raffles for friends were tried on other boards, and found to be in violation of some state laws. Particularly if the prizes involve firearms or if they are valued over certain limits.

[red]Basically, the raffle could fall under the gambling statutes.[/red] When these other raffles were checked, they were not in compliance. Most participants chose to just "donate" their raffle money, rather than receive a prize.

If all has been checked, please respond and count me in.

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Good thing I live in [b]Las Vegas[/b]. [banana]

I doubt the gubmint really cares about a little raffle, I do know the Cheif of Police and most of the City Council members though...I think I'm o.k. [;)]

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Yes, I saw that you were from NV. However, gambling is regulated there, is it not?

Seriously, I'm not trying to be an ass, but a year or so ago, there was another individual trying to raise funds for another deceased gunsmith's family. He was offering knives, firearms, and such as prizes.

He had declared a winner, and was then notified by his state's investigators that the raffle was illegal and he was commiting a felony. Remember, a felony means no more guns. Had he shipped out the firearms or other prizes he would have lost his business (gunsmith).

I understand and appreciate what you are doing. However, I'm sure we all would like to make sure that we are not contributing to a possible illegal enterprise. You may be in good standing with the local cops, but how does that help us?

As I mentioned before, when the other raffle was determined to be illegal, all the participants "donated" their raffle money, and declined to accept any prizes. I would like to help, but not at the cost of commiting, or participating in a crime. That is why I requested confirmation that all legalities have been satisfied.

Posted: 3/23/2003 7:43:34 PM EDT

[#50]

Joe_Blacke, you may want to stay out of this raffle then. I haven't secured my gaming license yet. [;)]

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