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Posted: 1/10/2005 3:06:06 PM EDT
Is it legal outside the military?

CRC
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:07:54 PM EDT
Every round is a Destructive Device.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:08:52 PM EDT
I can see that.

CRC
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:48:11 PM EDT
I wish.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:53:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 3:54:14 PM EDT by vito113]
NO…

It's even of questionable legality within the military! ie Shooting humans with explosive rounds is banned under the Geneva Convention.

ANdy
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:55:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
NO…

It's even of questionable legality within the military! ie Shooting humans with explosive rounds is banned under the Geneva Convention.

ANdy




Which Geneva Convention?  1949?  I didn't see it.  Do you mean the Hague Accords?
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:56:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
NO…

It's even of questionable legality within the military! ie Shooting humans with explosive rounds is banned under the Geneva Convention.

ANdy




The question here is is it legal to buy in the states. It would seem not to be.

It's in regards to the 60 Minutes story last night about the "danger" of .50 cal rifles and the doom that could be brought upon humanity if their legality continues.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:08:55 PM EDT
AFAIK they are legal to own and use in the U.S.

They contain less than 1/4 oz of explosive so they are not a DD (AFAIK)

They can be had for $30-$60 per rnd.

Get APIT....cheaper.............
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:10:58 PM EDT
I really really really hope its legal.  If not I didnt post this and I was never here.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:12:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jblachly:

Originally Posted By vito113:
NO…

It's even of questionable legality within the military! ie Shooting humans with explosive rounds is banned under the Geneva Convention.

ANdy




Which Geneva Convention?  1949?  I didn't see it.  Do you mean the Hague Accords?



Doh!  Yes……

ANdy
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:12:59 PM EDT
CBS 60 minutes said it was illegal, so they must be legal.

Looked like one of the sites they found them on was gunbroker.com.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:15:21 PM EDT
According to the Boston Gun book, they are currently legal, but getting rare and they supply the military first.

If you find any, I wouldn't buy it since it is probably stolen military ammunition.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:15:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherm8404:

Originally Posted By vito113:
y




The question here is is it legal to buy in the states. It would seem not to be.

It's in regards to the 60 Minutes story last night about the "danger" of .50 cal rifles and the doom that could be brought upon humanity if their legality continues.



Strange times………

Even here in Anti Gun Britain no one has a beef about .50 cal rifles…

Personally, can't see the attraction myself… .338 LAPUA Mag has all the range, is more accurate and pretty damn deadly!


ANdy
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:16:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By michaelj1978:
CBS 60 minutes said it was illegal, so they must be legal.

Looked like one of the sites they found them on was gunbroker.com.



Yea, but they weren't looking up .50BMG rounds, they found smaller caliber ones.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:17:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:20:23 PM EDT
IIRC, a Hadji was blown in half at about 1500 meters from a Raufoss hit.  The AAR mentioned the Hadji was in one piece and after the shot, the torso fell out of the shooting position.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:29:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By sherm8404:

Originally Posted By vito113:
y




The question here is is it legal to buy in the states. It would seem not to be.

It's in regards to the 60 Minutes story last night about the "danger" of .50 cal rifles and the doom that could be brought upon humanity if their legality continues.



Strange times………

Even here in Anti Gun Britain no one has a beef about .50 cal rifles…

Personally, can't see the attraction myself… .338 LAPUA Mag has all the range, is more accurate and pretty damn deadly!


ANdy

ammo avalibility probly since its a military round surplus componitants and ammo is widely avalible. atleast+
thats my take on it.

I cant afford either.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:34:37 PM EDT
TE 90 headstamp as shown

Does this mean it was manufactured in 1990?

CRC
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:35:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By michaelj1978:
CBS 60 minutes said it was illegal, so they must be legal.

Looked like one of the sites they found them on was gunbroker.com.

If they are illegal, why did they buy some?  They showed a "congratulations" screen from winning an auction for the rounds...
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:36:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DDiggler:

Originally Posted By michaelj1978:
CBS 60 minutes said it was illegal, so they must be legal.

Looked like one of the sites they found them on was gunbroker.com.

If they are illegal, why did they buy some?  They showed a "congratulations" screen from winning an auction for the rounds...



Why didn't they call the BATFE?
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:37:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
TE 90 headstamp as shown

Does this mean it was manufactured in 1990?

CRC



It should be.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:38:11 PM EDT
It's legal for civilians to own, but expensive as all get out and it's becoming rare.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:38:38 PM EDT
Okay that is in the link for the RAUFOSS rounds Biggame posted.

CRC
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:44:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jblachly:

Originally Posted By vito113:
NO…

It's even of questionable legality within the military! ie Shooting humans with explosive rounds is banned under the Geneva Convention.

ANdy




Which Geneva Convention?  1949?  I didn't see it.  Do you mean the Hague Accords?



Most likely.  I've read legal discussions about the ethics / legality of any .50 rd used as anti-personnel munitions.  One of the Death From Afar Vols has a good example of this.

To the best of my knowledge RAUFOSS (aka Golan-Globus) rounds are perfectly legal albeit
extremely expensive.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 5:11:12 PM EDT
Regardless of what Mr Barrett says they are legal to own. I frequently see them at Knob Creek and occasionally other places for sale. As stated above, they are NOT a DD.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 5:15:07 PM EDT
I'm looking on Gunbroker and the only thing that comes close that I've been able to find are Raufus super incendiary HE ammo.

From what I've herd incendiary rounds are nothing more than a binary chemical mix that upon impact ignites... am I right.

I know that rounds that have primers on the projectile's tip are illeagle in some places.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 6:05:35 PM EDT
I think we were all discussing Federal Law.  There are of course going to be several
localities where they are illegal,  many places even tracers are illegal.

HE means high explosive.
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