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Posted: 12/29/2003 7:08:26 PM EDT
For those with Direct T.V., starting right now 905 PM on the Western Channel (529).
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:20:01 PM EDT
Sweeeeeeet! Gotta love that Sharps![:D]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:26:13 PM EDT
DVD time! [:D]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:27:46 PM EDT
"Mr. Marston, do think that I could someday shoot as good as you?"
"You mean if you practice hard every day?"

Alan Rickman rocks.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:10:18 PM EDT
Very first DVD I bought.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:38:03 PM EDT
Anyone remember the caliber/ load of the Sharps?  I'm curious as to the velocity that black powder cartridge would have.  There was a scene in the film where a guy is shot, then you hear the shot a long while afterward, but I can't imagine the velocity being high enough to be that dramatic.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:39:21 PM EDT
We're watching it too.  We also own it on DVD.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:47:15 PM EDT
One of my top five favorite movies.  I believe the caliber is a 45/110.  You can get the Quigley Sharps replica in that caliber but I think a box of 20 rounds will set you back about $75 [shock]!
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 8:47:18 PM EDT
Velocity of the olf 500 grain .45 bullet propelled by 120 grains of 2F blackpowder was around 1800 FPS out of the 32" barrel, IIRC.

Now, that is a low velocity but even at maximum range, it was moving at over 500 FPS at target.  With an average valocity of 1350 FPS and a range of 4000 feet, time of flight is a little over 5 seconds, given the trajectory resembling a rainbow.  The sound should indeed reach the target before the bullet.  But for shorter ranges, the bullet indeed reached target a few seconds prior to the report.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 9:01:58 PM EDT
You know what I like about that movie, he is a true shooter, fast, but methodical in his technique. A lesson plan for those who wish to shoot well.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 10:03:32 PM EDT
I've seen Tom Selleck at Angeles Shooting Ranges several times. He really is a fan of the lever guns & cowboy rifles.  

Link Posted: 12/29/2003 10:12:37 PM EDT
I know a guy who bought a rifle similar to the Quiqley gun but its in 45-120, with an octagonal barrel. He spent $2,400 and waited 3½ years. He reloads the ammo on a single stage RCBS Rock Chucker.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 10:14:04 PM EDT
THe Shiloh Sharps he has in that movie is sweet. My dad had one made, the "Quigley ifle" model but in 45-70 not 45-110 and with my dad's intials not Quigleys. Its Awesome. I'll have to post pics sometime. SHoots ridiculously good. I can get sub MOA groups at 100 yards with the peep sights.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 10:26:01 PM EDT
I've got a real Sharps rifle (not carbine) that looks like it is .54 cal. I did a search a while back on the serial(?) number and found out that it is a hybrid of one Sharps model rifle barrel on a different Sharps receiver, hence not worth very much. It looks like somebody way back when wanted a rifle rather than a carbine. Anyway, I've been thinking of getting the trigger spring fixed so I could shoot it, but don't know the first thing about the ammo. Plus I'm a little leery about shooting that thing without making sure it won't act like a .45 Glock. Any thoughts?

Link Posted: 12/30/2003 6:48:06 AM EDT
"Didn't say I didn't know how to use one (a pistol.)"

"Just said I didn't have much need for one."  [pistol]

Link Posted: 12/30/2003 7:14:07 AM EDT
I loved the movie so much, that I carefully watched the credits roll to the end to find out who built the rifle.  It was Shiloh Sharps Manufacturing in Big Timber Montana.

So I ordered one.  I ordered a Long Range Express with a 34 inch barrel in .45-70.  I had to wait almost 3 years.  They do not "work in" anyone.  Quigley was the only exception.

Here it is.  It is a beautiful rifle and a great shooter:


Here's the ammo.  .45-70 with a 510 grain cast, gas checked bullet, over 40.0 gr. of AA-2495 for around 1500 fps.

Link Posted: 12/30/2003 1:13:17 PM EDT
Great flick!
And Laura San Giaccomo? Major sweater meat...
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