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Posted: 9/10/2013 7:51:38 PM EDT
2 3/4 00 Buckshot out of a 18.5" Remington Police bbl (Fixed Imp Cyl) at 35 yards...

How big should I expect the pattern to be? Roughly.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 7:52:46 PM EDT
Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MIN.





Edited for derptardationfixing; I was running out the door for work when I hit submit.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 7:53:41 PM EDT
The same as a Mini-14,duh.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 7:55:06 PM EDT
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If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.
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No flite control, 25 round bulk package of Remington 2 3/4 buck.

This Stuff

1325 FPS
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 4:19:54 AM EDT
bump fpr the morning crew
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If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.



If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.
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And very un even.
 
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 4:29:55 AM EDT
That Rem Express Buck spreads worse than the cheap S&B buck in my 870 police cyl bore.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 4:30:49 AM EDT
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HA!!
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That Rem Express Buck spreads worse than the cheap S&B buck in my 870 police cyl bore.
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I would expect a 3 foot pattern at that range and choke

 
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 4:33:10 AM EDT
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I would expect a 3 foot pattern at that range and choke  
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That Rem Express Buck spreads worse than the cheap S&B buck in my 870 police cyl bore.
I would expect a 3 foot pattern at that range and choke  


That is my thinking as well.  Flite control might drop it to 10-15.



 
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 4:54:17 AM EDT
Different chokes , longer distance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijhQwIRWAJk
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:02:45 AM EDT
Quick general rule of thumb I use for my IC choked 870 and cheap buckshot is 1" spread per yard. My testing out to 25 yds pretty much verifies this. (For me)
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This.
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Quick general rule of thumb I use for my IC choked 870 and cheap buckshot is 1" spread per yard. My testing out to 25 yds pretty much verifies this. (For me)


This.

This applies to my 28" Rem 870 with IC choke as well.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:19:57 AM EDT
Standard Remington or Winchester 00 buck will probably throw a 3 to 5 foot pattern at that range.

ETA -- I was testing some of my favorite 000 3" mag buck out of an 870 with 28" interchangeable chokes over the weekend and modified choke gave me a great pattern.  Nice and tight, about hand sized at 25 yds.   Full was aroun 10-12" or so, and IC about 2 feet.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:37:29 AM EDT
Only patterning your shotgun (at 3/5/7/10/15/35/35/50 yards) will answer your question, because every shotgun barrel will pattern differently.

This is Federal Tactical 00 (Flite Control Wad) at 30 yards.  

Shotgun is a nothing-special Mpssberg 590A1 20" barrel.








Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:37:59 AM EDT
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If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.
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I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:43:23 AM EDT
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I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.
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Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.


I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.

See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:46:30 AM EDT
Yea, I think those numbers are a bit optimistic. I would want to shoot something else at 30 yards.
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See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.
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Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.


I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.

See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.


I think he is refering to the No FCW /14-16 inches MAX you indicate. My results have been closer to the 30" @30yards spread depending on the load, the choke and the specific gun.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 5:56:39 AM EDT
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I think he is refering to the No FCW /14-16 inches MAX you indicate. My results have been closer to the 30" @30yards spread depending on the load, the choke and the specific gun.
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Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.


I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.

See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.


I think he is refering to the No FCW /14-16 inches MAX you indicate. My results have been closer to the 30" @30yards spread depending on the load, the choke and the specific gun.

I just noticed I put MAX instead of MIN on the second one
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 6:08:54 AM EDT
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Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.


I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.

See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.


I've not used or had any experience with FCW. That is truly impressive.

16" with standard loads, I've never seen at that distance with an IC bore. Not saying anything is impossible.

Link Posted: 9/11/2013 6:18:05 AM EDT
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I've not used or had any experience with FCW. That is truly impressive.

16" with standard loads, I've never seen at that distance with an IC bore. Not saying anything is impossible.

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Flite control wad or no?


If yes, no more than 8-10" MAX.

If no, closer to 14-16" MAX.


I'd be extremely surprised to see a pattern that small at that distance.

3 feet and if you're lucky, a little less.

See the post above yours? That's a 8-10" spread with a FCW.


I've not used or had any experience with FCW. That is truly impressive.

16" with standard loads, I've never seen at that distance with an IC bore. Not saying anything is impossible.



You've gotta do some work with the Federal Flite Control Wads.

They are literally a game changer with buck shot. They now sell a plated/buffered #1 Buck with the FCW; damn near perfection for a self defense shotgun load.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 6:54:06 AM EDT
Federal Flight Control absolutely is impressive in keeping buckshot on a single target at extended ranges--but it has occurred that there MAY be situations/applications in which you might WANT to be throwing a predictable/repeatable 3' wide pattern.

Test different loads, and see what does what, and above all performs predictably.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 6:55:30 AM EDT
87"
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 6:58:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:04:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:10:53 AM EDT
I shot this Friday. FC is where it's at.

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