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Posted: 4/21/2010 12:24:33 PM EDT
Growing up whenever my family had a large party, we'd take the truck down to the Elks, where my grandfather was a member, load up a bunch of tables they had in the back, use them, and they return them the next day. It was one of the perks of membership. I never really gave it thought as to what in the heck "the Elks" was.

Recently I've noticed: Elks, Eagles, Moose, VFW, American Legion, etc around town. In such a small town, I was surprised that there are so many of these types of establishments.

Perhaps I've lived a sheltered life, but what the heck are all of these organizations?

I get that VFW and the American Legion are veterans organizations, but what about the others?

Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?

Are any of them bigger, better, or more helpful/influential than the others?

Is this connected to freemasonry?

Are any arfcommers members of these organizations?

Are they just a bunch of old guys?

Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:27:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:


Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?





I was a member of an Eagle's Arie for a few years. For the most part the above would be a yes.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:32:59 PM EDT
Secret societies that battle each other for domination of their rural areas. Elks are the sworn enemies of Eagles, have a tumultuous alliance with the Bears, and are like blood brothers to the Beavers. The Beavers however are mortal enemies of the Bears, ever since William Joeseph Hankerton's step daughter ran off with James Taggerton Philandorp's nephew (twice removed) in 1861. The one wild card in the whole affair are the Moose, who seem to switch allegiances to whichever clan is currently strongest. Most battles are fought between the 60-79 year old age group and their weapons of choice run the gamut from spiked clubs to spears dipped in arsenic. The victors of these bloody battles generally remove the dentures of their victims for trophies.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:33:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:

Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?


Is this connected to freemasonry?


Are they just a bunch of old guys?



yes
no
yes

also: masons are freemasons. Most are harmless old men, the danger is in the top 0.01% of leadership.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:33:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/21/2010 12:34:54 PM EDT by Sixguns4Fighting]
I heard that the Elks are a Masonic lodge.

Yes, it's mostly old folks. I think most of these organizations will fold up in another twenty years.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:35:10 PM EDT
I'm a member of the Elks - mostly a social organization dedicated to helping a few specific charity causes. Yes, the beer is cheap, and the steaks are mediocre, but the people are really nice! Its like an in-person arfcom
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:35:42 PM EDT
Our Elks lodge is busy with a secret plan to corner the market on Cabela's fish fry mix.

Right after that, we are going to take over the world.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:36:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Secret societies that battle each other for domination of their rural areas. Elks are the sworn enemies of Eagles, have a tumultuous alliance with the Bears, and are like blood brothers to the Beavers. The Beavers however are mortal enemies of the Bears, ever since William Joeseph Hankerton's step daughter ran off with James Taggerton Philandorp's nephew (twice removed) in 1861. The one wild card in the whole affair are the Moose, who seem to switch allegiances to whichever clan is currently strongest. Most battles are fought between the 60-79 year old age group and their weapons of choice run the gamut from spiked clubs to spears dipped in arsenic. The victors of these bloody battles generally remove the dentures of their victims for trophies.



In Before Someone Thinks The Above Is A Joke.


-K
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:38:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Secret societies that battle each other for domination of their rural areas. Elks are the sworn enemies of Eagles, have a tumultuous alliance with the Bears, and are like blood brothers to the Beavers. The Beavers however are mortal enemies of the Bears, ever since William Joeseph Hankerton's step daughter ran off with James Taggerton Philandorp's nephew (twice removed) in 1861. The one wild card in the whole affair are the Moose, who seem to switch allegiances to whichever clan is currently strongest. Most battles are fought between the 60-79 year old age group and their weapons of choice run the gamut from spiked clubs to spears dipped in arsenic. The victors of these bloody battles generally remove the dentures of their victims for trophies.


This is like my nieces stuffed animal tea party seating rules.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:40:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ShootnMedic:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:

Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?


Is this connected to freemasonry?


Are they just a bunch of old guys?



yes
no
yes

also: masons are freemasons. Most are harmless old men, the danger is in the top 0.01% of leadership.

Planning World domination are they?


Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:54:14 PM EDT
I'm an Eagle, and I was a Moose at one time. The Moose club in town here is just a place for cheap drinks and decent food. The Eagles Club in town here, however, does a TON of charity work, both for local and national charities. Their last fundraiser generated on the order of $50,000 in donations. They also have cheap booze and decent food. The Eagles State pool tournament is the largest pool tourney in the state of Nebraska, with something on the order of 1200-1500 players each year.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:59:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 12:59:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sixguns4Fighting:
I heard that the Elks are a Masonic lodge.

Yes, it's mostly old folks. I think most of these organizations will fold up in another twenty years.


You heard wrong.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:01:08 PM EDT
It's hard for the younger generation (this includes me) to really "get" fraternal organizations. At one time, it's just something that everyone did.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:04:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By machinisttx:
Originally Posted By Sixguns4Fighting:
I heard that the Elks are a Masonic lodge.

Yes, it's mostly old folks. I think most of these organizations will fold up in another twenty years.


You heard wrong.


I really don't know where he got that idea, membership in the Elks at least has been steadily growing for a couple decades now.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:23:07 PM EDT


Uh the salle I go to for fencing is the Elks meeting hall..
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:24:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:25:58 PM EDT
My grandfather was a Shriner all his life. From what my grandmother, mother and uncle have told me the extent of their Masonic conspiracy was to drink beer, have cookouts and raise money for charity. Scary stuff.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:26:18 PM EDT
Which one knows where the gold is buried?

If this can be answered to my satisfaction I will join up with that orginization forthwith
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:28:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bytor94:

Originally Posted By ShootnMedic:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:

Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?

Is this connected to freemasonry?

Are they just a bunch of old guys?



yes
no
yes

also: masons are freemasons. Most are harmless old men, the danger is in the top 0.01% of leadership.

Planning World domination are they?




Well get busy already. The world is a freakin mess.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:33:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bytor94:

Originally Posted By ShootnMedic:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:

Are they just places to get cheap beer, steaks & fried fish that also sometimes raise money for charity?


Is this connected to freemasonry?


Are they just a bunch of old guys?



yes
no
yes

also: masons are freemasons. Most are harmless old men, the danger is in the top 0.01% of leadership.

Planning World domination are they?





Right after you wake em up and give them their meds...

Chris


Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:46:29 PM EDT
Most of the non-troublemaking crowd in my town 25 and up (me included) are members of the Moose.

It's a good place to get cheaper beers, decent food, and both at a place where you can take your kids for dinner. They have bands (including mine) about once a month over the fall/winter/spring as well. Lots of social stuff if you want, like trips to WV casinos, etc.

I get my $35/yr worth. It's nice to know you can go drink beer and watch the game without having Mr. _______ start yet ANOTHER fight. You don't tend to see riff-raff in there.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:51:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Subnet:
It's hard for the younger generation (this includes me) to really "get" fraternal organizations. At one time, it's just something that everyone did.


Yea, there has been a real cultural change in the last 50 years. The WWII generation were always getting together and doing things from actual clubs to just bridge on Tuesday nights, nowdays people are too busy and too isolated by technology.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 1:55:13 PM EDT
It's also about connections. Lots of the elks (or whoever) are successful businessmen who have some pull in the community.

Say you are an average Joe who wants to make a slight changing in the city zoning rule so you can well, whatever.

Good luck with that.

Now say you are a Shriner, and 3 of the 10 councilmen on the city board are members, plus about 20 respected businessmen. Now you get your 20 respected businessmen to attend the city meeting with you, say they think your plan will be good for the town, etc etc.

Guess what, you are probably going to get your change made.
Link Posted: 4/21/2010 2:00:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
It's hard for the younger generation (this includes me) to really "get" fraternal organizations. At one time, it's just something that everyone did.


Yea, there has been a real cultural change in the last 50 years. The WWII generation were always getting together and doing things from actual clubs to just bridge on Tuesday nights, nowdays people are too busy and too isolated by technology.

My friends and I still gather regularly, it's just not a formal one with a charter or a mission statement.

It really is a cultural shift. I've tried my best to see the value in joining fraternal organizations, and while the benefits have been explained to me time and time again, I just can't "get into" the idea. Not only do I not feel like I've gained anything personally or emotionally, it almost seems like a chore.
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