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Posted: 8/10/2005 5:43:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 5:55:59 AM EDT by HKS]
I noticed that minorities and black colleges are more favored to be given grants by the government then anyone else.

People have probably been sued for much less and lost.

Just something I was thinking over.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 5:47:03 AM EDT
Was listening to someone on NPR (yes, I listen to NPR) on my way to work this morning as they explained how research was being done to determine why latinos recieved less student aid than other minority groups.

The fact that they

1) simply didn't apply for as much aid as other groups, and

2) usually went to cheaper community colleges

didn't seem to intertefere with anyone's zeal for determining the root of this great social injustice.

YMMV and all that.

<--turned down for student loans for several years (but did finally get them...)
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:11:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HKS:
I noticed that minorities and black colleges are more favored to be given grants by the government then anyone else.

People have probably been sued for much less and lost.

Just something I was thinking over.



scotus says afirmative action is not racist. wait a couple of years and whites will be in the minority so will be able to benefit from AA
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:23:30 AM EDT
There was one group that held a bake sale on campus. The cookies were priced according to race.

White = $1.50 a cookie
Hispanic = .75 a cookie
black = .25 a cookie

or something similar. They relfecte d the $ percentage each race paid on average for tuition. The students were mixed races and did it as a protest. All were expelled I think.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:25:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
There was one group that held a bake sale on campus. The cookies were priced according to race.

White = $1.50 a cookie
Hispanic = .75 a cookie
black = .25 a cookie

or something similar. They relfecte d the $ percentage each race paid on average for tuition. The students were mixed races and did it as a protest. All were expelled I think.



Wow, what campus was this?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:26:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 6:27:23 AM EDT by WildBoar]

Originally Posted By five2one:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
There was one group that held a bake sale on campus. The cookies were priced according to race.

White = $1.50 a cookie
Hispanic = .75 a cookie
black = .25 a cookie

or something similar. They relfecte d the $ percentage each race paid on average for tuition. The students were mixed races and did it as a protest. All were expelled I think.



Wow, what campus was this?



Found it. Some of my facts were wrong as I was going by memory.


Texas University Shuts Down Bake Sale
By Associated Press
September 24, 2003, 11:17 PM EDT

DALLAS -- Southern Methodist University shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender.

The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action.

A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks.

Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions.

Similar sales have been held by College Republican chapters at colleges in at least five other states since February.

A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation.

"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

The sale drew a crowd outside the student center and several students engaged in a shouting match, Moore said.

David C. Rushing, 23, a law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispies treats, he said.

"We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said.

Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.

In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. In Texas, universities had been banned from using race as a factor under a 1996 decision by a lower court.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:45:46 AM EDT
Texas University Shuts Down Bake Sale
By Associated Press
September 24, 2003, 11:17 PM EDT

DALLAS -- Southern Methodist University shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender.

The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action.

That's a sacred item there boys, an entitlement

A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks.

No one mentioned the "white women" in the article.

Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions.

See, that's the problem. You can say you mean no offense but no one will accept you at your word. Actually it's perfectly OK to be offended by AA, ESPECIALLY if you're a minority.

Similar sales have been held by College Republican chapters at colleges in at least five other states since February.

A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation.

You can have every "hate speaker" of the left spewing non-stop in Atlanta and it's not an unsafe situation?

"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

You can have free speech when we say you can. Maybe they should have had a "sit-in" in the administration

The sale drew a crowd outside the student center and several students engaged in a shouting match, Moore said.

David C. Rushing, 23, a law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispies treats, he said.

The other side of the story

"We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said.

Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

And stamp out the Campus Republicans, while they're at it.

The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.

If it was a car they were selling no one would have protested, they would have plunked down the money

In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. In Texas, universities had been banned from using race as a factor under a 1996 decision by a lower court.

All schools want the best and the brightest. Then they want some other people too and that's the problem. They don't know how to get them without violating their own standards.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press
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