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Posted: 9/2/2015 9:50:54 PM EST
So what's with all these refugees fleeing to Europe? Is Assad's regime killing them? Why don't they try to fight for their own country instead of dying on the sea? Are they Christians fleeing extermination or muslims that will eventually over turn those western nations to Islam? Are they from other places besides Syria? I thought once Africa got rid of the oppressive whites, everything would be awesome. Seriously, I don't get it.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:54:13 PM EST
Do you even read, bro?
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There's lots to read and it seems like this has just escalated recently, or the news got tired of other stories like Hitlery's email. Also I have a life and a family to worry about first. Just curious what the real story is, I don't watch the news because they are full of shit 90% of the time.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:01:32 PM EST
I think ISIS is sending them over and are among them. The refugee story is just a convenient excuse.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:03:46 PM EST
Civil war in Syria! Its all the rage right now!
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:09:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:

There's lots to read and it seems like this has just escalated recently, or the news got tired of other stories like Hitlery's email. Also I have a life and a family to worry about first. Just curious what the real story is, I don't watch the news because they are full of shit 90% of the time.
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Originally Posted By monkeytenor:
Do you even read, bro?

There's lots to read and it seems like this has just escalated recently, or the news got tired of other stories like Hitlery's email. Also I have a life and a family to worry about first. Just curious what the real story is, I don't watch the news because they are full of shit 90% of the time.


When pictures of drowned three year old washing up on shore occur, the news starts noticing. So before you start judging them and making remarks think about the desperation a mother had when she took her 3 and 5 year old on a little raft to escape.

Do not click if you don't want your heart broken. From PBS and the BBC. Picture of drowned boy making the rounds in European news.
picture of boy on beach
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:31:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
So what's with all these refugees fleeing to Europe? Is Assad's regime killing them? Why don't they try to fight for their own country instead of dying on the sea? Are they Christians fleeing extermination or muslims that will eventually over turn those western nations to Islam? Are they from other places besides Syria? I thought once Africa got rid of the oppressive whites, everything would be awesome. Seriously, I don't get it.
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Assad, numerous insurgencies fighting among themselves and of course The civil war itself is what is driving them out of Syria.

Their homes are being shelled, there is street fighting and snipers.

Syria was a relatively well developed and advancedcountry, so many of those fleeing to Europe are thought to be doing so because of the war.

The other migrants from Africa appear mostly to be economic migrants. Some are escaping oppressive regimes but for the most part they want to enter Europe because Europe is a soft touch and appears to be wealthy.

Feeding this migration is the criminal gangs that operate as human traffickers. They charge the migrants what amounts to a significant chunk of money to smuggle them to Europe on desperately overcrowded boats, usually only to abandon them off the coast of a European nation to fend for themsleves while the crew abandon ship so as not to get caught.

As for staying at home and fighting? What for? I know most of the P-Mag popping superheroes of GD think they would camp out with their ammo-fort and fight to the bitter end, but in reality when SHTF as it has in Syria they will be piling into their F150s and making like a tree.

For the Syrians, Their homes are shattered and they are at best going to swap one oppressive regime for another if and when the conflict comes to an end. At the moment there doesn't appear to be an end in sight. Why stay for that shit wehn you have the Post democratic socialist Eutopia only a few hundred miles away full of bleeding heart Libtards who will pretend to give everything for free?

In many ways you can't blame them for trying to get to Europe.

For the rest of them? The economic migrants? Same thing applies in many ways.

Until someone says No and means it, they will keep coming over.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:44:54 PM EST
Obama.
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Crossfire
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 11:54:18 PM EST
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I won't go so far as to quote some of the asinine things I've read so far, I'll say this instead. What is happening, is that western civilization has apparently committed, collectively to a suicide pact. The truth is, any muslim refugee, hell any refugee at all will only serve to tighten the noose with the added weight on the productive classes that comprise said civilization.
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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
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No, means they die.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:07:38 AM EST
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No, means they die.
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Until someone says No and means it, they will keep coming over.



No, means they die.


No it doesn't.

No means they have to find an alternative solution.

Fighting for freedom from tyranny and oppression was never easy nor without cost.

As long as it is easier to simply flee into another country, they will never feel compelled nor motivated to improve their own country.

The reality is that most of the countries these people want to go to cannot take any more. There are serious socio-economic issues not to mention significant concerns over resources, infrastructure and services needed to manage the influx without serious impact.

These people are dying by their thousands at the hands of smugglers and at the hands of tyrants and savages in their own countries. It is a problem that solving at source.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 6:34:12 AM EST
I remember refugees from New Orleans during Katrina flooding Houston area, seriously burdening that city for a while, I can't imagine hundreds of thousands. It's unfortunate for those people but I'm glad it's a longer boat ride to America.
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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:


No it doesn't.

No means they have to find an alternative solution.

Fighting for freedom from tyranny and oppression was never easy nor without cost.

As long as it is easier to simply flee into another country, they will never feel compelled nor motivated to improve their own country.

The reality is that most of the countries these people want to go to cannot take any more. There are serious socio-economic issues not to mention significant concerns over resources, infrastructure and services needed to manage the influx without serious impact.

These people are dying by their thousands at the hands of smugglers and at the hands of tyrants and savages in their own countries. It is a problem that solving at source.
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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Until someone says No and means it, they will keep coming over.



No, means they die.


No it doesn't.

No means they have to find an alternative solution.

Fighting for freedom from tyranny and oppression was never easy nor without cost.

As long as it is easier to simply flee into another country, they will never feel compelled nor motivated to improve their own country.

The reality is that most of the countries these people want to go to cannot take any more. There are serious socio-economic issues not to mention significant concerns over resources, infrastructure and services needed to manage the influx without serious impact.

These people are dying by their thousands at the hands of smugglers and at the hands of tyrants and savages in their own countries. It is a problem that solving at source.


Easy to say sitting behind your computer in a nice comfy environment.

Much harder to actually do.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 1:58:41 PM EST
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No one ever seems to read this but LOOK at the pictures of refugees coming to Europe.

I don't mean the BBC's series following a hot young Syrian woman on her trip to Europe, and I don't mean the dead toddler I mean LOOK at the pictures of the people coming to Europe on the rafts.

there are Syrians who are coming to Europe but the majority of them are men of fighting age who are from Northern Africa, Somalia, etc.

The media is using the Syrians because the connotation of Syria is educated and civilized. I have no idea why the powers that be in Europe are in a race to commit cultural and economic genocide but that's the way it's going.

Small children and young women are in the VAST minority of folks heading to Europe. What they're not showing you is the massive amounts of Africans heading to Europe.

Just my .02
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:08:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By glockluv:
No one ever seems to read this but LOOK at the pictures of refugees coming to Europe.

I don't mean the BBC's series following a hot young Syrian woman on her trip to Europe, and I don't mean the dead toddler I mean LOOK at the pictures of the people coming to Europe on the rafts.

there are Syrians who are coming to Europe but the majority of them are men of fighting age who are from Northern Africa, Somalia, etc.

The media is using the Syrians because the connotation of Syria is educated and civilized. I have no idea why the powers that be in Europe are in a race to commit cultural and economic genocide but that's the way it's going.

Small children and young women are in the VAST minority of folks heading to Europe. What they're not showing you is the massive amounts of Africans heading to Europe.

Just my .02
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Yep.

The entire Syrian Civil War, all 300,000 killed in it, all the cities destroyed, all of it was a ruse designed by the Muslims to get refugee/military aged male terrorists to invade Europe through false flag immigration. Same with the Libya Civil Wars, with their tens of thousands of deaths. All fake, just to get boat people to cross the Med to Sicily, Italy, and into the heartland of the great European countries.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:14:45 PM EST
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Yep.

The entire Syrian Civil War, all 300,000 killed in it, all the cities destroyed, all of it was a ruse designed by the Muslims to get refugee/military aged male terrorists to invade Europe through false flag immigration. Same with the Libya Civil Wars, with their tens of thousands of deaths. All fake, just to get boat people to cross the Med to Sicily, Italy, and into the heartland of the great European countries.
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Originally Posted By steinhab:
Originally Posted By glockluv:
No one ever seems to read this but LOOK at the pictures of refugees coming to Europe.

I don't mean the BBC's series following a hot young Syrian woman on her trip to Europe, and I don't mean the dead toddler I mean LOOK at the pictures of the people coming to Europe on the rafts.

there are Syrians who are coming to Europe but the majority of them are men of fighting age who are from Northern Africa, Somalia, etc.

The media is using the Syrians because the connotation of Syria is educated and civilized. I have no idea why the powers that be in Europe are in a race to commit cultural and economic genocide but that's the way it's going.

Small children and young women are in the VAST minority of folks heading to Europe. What they're not showing you is the massive amounts of Africans heading to Europe.

Just my .02


Yep.

The entire Syrian Civil War, all 300,000 killed in it, all the cities destroyed, all of it was a ruse designed by the Muslims to get refugee/military aged male terrorists to invade Europe through false flag immigration. Same with the Libya Civil Wars, with their tens of thousands of deaths. All fake, just to get boat people to cross the Med to Sicily, Italy, and into the heartland of the great European countries.

You have a sense of humor. It only cost many, many lives.

Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:14:54 PM EST
It would be quite helpful if some of these immigration advocates or EU leadership would issue a list of criteria so a country could know when it has taken in "enough" immigrants. From what I can tell there are probably another 50 million or so in Africa and the Middle East that would be interested in migrating as well.





Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:22:25 PM EST
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The only way to solve mass immigration problems in the US and Europe is to stop taking them in, and tell them to solve their own problems. It is harsh, but the industrialized world cannot support the worlds poor and displaced. All we can do is try to help them to solve their own countries problems. See the Gumball video:

Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:27:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By torstin:
It would be quite helpful if some of these immigration advocates or EU leadership would issue a list of criteria so a country could know when it has taken in "enough" immigrants. From what I can tell there are probably another 50 million or so in Africa and the Middle East that would be interested in migrating as well.



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The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

The big thing for all these refugees is that they are fleeing failed states, and there is nothing they can really be sent back to. Let's say a tractor trailer load of them is found crossing the border. Where does the govt send the people? Back to the neighboring country they are trying to cross through? They don't want them either. Back to their home country? How does one ensure that happens? There isn't much they can do other than put them in refugee camps and try to contain them until either they can repatriate them to their home nation after violence ends or slows down, or allow them to settle in their own countries. The Nordic country approach is the latter, they allowed them to become citizens and were put on the dole. For Palestinian refugees in Jordan and other countries, they are still in refugee camps after the half a century.

The various left wing govt of Europe don't want to be seen as insensitive or not politically correct, so they haven't said no yet or instituted any draconian measures to curb illegal immigration. Once the system is overwhelmed and the citizenry flips their shit over the influx, then they will have the political capital to act like the bad guy and turn off the spigot. But by then all the rat lines and contacts have been set up, so it will be rather easy to get illegal immigrants into the country.

Lots of the Nordic countries have had long standing traditions of sheltering refugees, putting them on the dole, etc. But even their systems have been overwhelmed over the years.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:34:30 PM EST
Western Civilization is dying one foreign immigrant at a time, and Marxist wouldn't want it any other way.

Link Posted: 9/3/2015 11:40:51 PM EST
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Western Civilization is dying one foreign immigrant at a time, and Marxist wouldn't want it any other way.

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I love genius comments like this. How do you think western civilization was built? I can tell you it wasn't because everyone was miraculously born here.
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