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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:57:57 PM EDT
One of the best experiences I have ever had. I am deff going to do it again.

AR Iron sights

ETA: everything is shot unsupported using sling only

A BAD lever would have made the mag changes much much easier.

I was also shooting steel case ammo.

The biggest thing LISTEN TO YOUR INSTRUCTORS
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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:00:05 PM EDT
Congrats. Can't wait to do one myself.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:00:47 PM EDT
It is a good feeling to walk off with the patch on your first one.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:00:57 PM EDT
Can't quite read it on my phone, 25yds?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:01:06 PM EDT
Nice.I'd like to go to one of these someday. They look like a hoot.

What setup did you use? Any prep prior?

What was the most valuable thing you learned?

Biggest surprise?

Most irritating or least valuable thing?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:01:35 PM EDT
Good Job.  What are the distances if I may ask?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:02:20 PM EDT
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Yes, and those targets are scaled down for use at 25 yards.  They are tinier than you might think
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:06:32 PM EDT
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Nice.I'd like to go to one of these someday. They look like a hoot.

What setup did you use? Any prep prior?

What was the most valuable thing you learned?

Biggest surprise?

Most irritating or least valuable thing?
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20" AR with carry handle

Natural Point of Aim (NPOA)

When I started the class, I was no where near as good a shot as I thought

Could do more shooting, but the class is invaluable.
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Now that you have had the class, my advice is to spend a lot of time in dry-fire practice.  In each position.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:14:01 PM EDT
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Yes, and those targets are scaled down for use at 25 yards.  They are tinier than you might think
No, I get it. Looks about like the Alt C target the Army uses for qualifying on a 25m range. Looks like OP did pretty well since most people can't shoot irons worth a damn.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:14:26 PM EDT
Nice job! Glad you used irons!

Great class
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:18:40 PM EDT
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This for sure. The dry fire prep before each stage was worth every second
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:22:50 PM EDT


Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:23:57 PM EDT
Great shooting!

It's one hell of an accomplishment to get the patch the first time if you have no prior service rifle experience.

Next weekend I'm going to probably my 15th one. It took me 4 to get my patch.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:40:25 PM EDT
Nice work, I have been 4 times and was always a few point short Came close with my M16a1 clone once till my buffer fell apart and locked up my AR. Have not been since. I always tried with iron sights. If I go again gonna use a magnified optic.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:11:08 PM EDT
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Nice work, I have been 4 times and was always a few point short Came close with my M16a1 clone once till my buffer fell apart and locked up my AR. Have not been since. I always tried with iron sights. If I go again gonna use a magnified optic.
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'Tis why I brought my AR and not my 10-22. I shoot my 20" ar better than any rifle I have
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:16:40 PM EDT
Nice. Is it 3 position or all one?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:18:39 PM EDT
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One of the best experiences I have ever had. I am deff going to do it again.

AR Iron sights

ETA: everything is shot unsupported using sling only

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/277883/IMG-4865-188793.JPG
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What happened 2nd row from the bottom on the left? You get a cramp?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:19:26 PM EDT
Congratulations.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:19:57 PM EDT
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One of the best experiences I have ever had. I am deff going to do it again.

AR Iron sights

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Way to go!

I'm a shoot boss now and likewise qualified Rifleman at my first Appleseed.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:28:10 PM EDT
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3 position.  

100 yard single target standing, 10 rounds in 2 minutes, no reload

200 yard twins seated or kneeling, begin standing then drop into position, 10 rounds in 55 seconds with a mandatory reload

300 yard triplets prone, begin standing then drop into position, 10 rounds in 65 seconds with a mandatory reload

400 yard quads prone, begin prone, 10 rounds in 5 minutes, no reload





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What happened 2nd row from the bottom on the left? You get a cramp?
Man have I done a bunch that look just like that.  He'd have had a ton of points to spare in it wasn't for that one.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:28:48 PM EDT
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What happened 2nd row from the bottom on the left? You get a cramp?
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My sling slipped and I changed stance right as I was squeezing the trigger
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What happened 2nd row from the bottom on the left? You get a cramp?
My sling slipped and I changed stance right as I was squeezing the trigger
I hate that!  4 shots in a tiny little hole,  1 on the next county.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:57:15 PM EDT
Congrats! Nice shooting. It's harder than you think for sure
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:03:42 PM EDT
congrats..shot one last year and ended up a few points shy of coming home with a badge....loads of fun though and want to do it again, jus need to fit it into the schedule
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:06:49 PM EDT
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No, I get it. Looks about like the Alt C target the Army uses for qualifying on a 25m range. Looks like OP did pretty well since most people can't shoot irons worth a damn.
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Hell, most people can't shoot a scoped rifle worth a damn.

When I was instructing (10 years ago and more), the statistics were that only about 12 to 15% of the attendees would shoot a high enough score to get their patch.  That's in 2 days of shooting.  Some got close, but close doesn't get you a patch.  Some of the folks that got a patch mentioned it was their 2nd or even 3rd Appleseed.

It's not easy.  I've seen guys with $4,000 (10 years ago costs) worth of rifle and scope get pissed off, get up, pack up their gear and go home because they groups were so bad.  There's no shooting bench or front/rear bean bags on an Appleseed range.  The targets used to be a dingy gray color, too.  I guess the red is easier to see?

Good job.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:11:47 PM EDT
Outstanding!
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:15:06 PM EDT
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It's not easy.  I've seen guys with $4,000 (10 years ago costs) worth of rifle and scope get pissed off, get up, pack up their gear and go home because they groups were so bad.  There's no shooting bench or front/rear bean bags on an Appleseed range.  
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I know, it is like they think buying an M1A SuperMatch means "Allah will guide the bullets into the center of the target, so I don't need to listen to the instructor."  

Buying $50k in tools doesn't make a person a mechanic.  Nor does buying a $4000 rifle make a person a Rifleman.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:49:55 PM EDT
Nice! I'm hoping to do this with the kids soon.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:06:37 PM EDT
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This!
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:10:19 PM EDT
Can we call you Dick for short?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:34:53 PM EDT
Good job.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:37:43 PM EDT
Good job!
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:40:29 PM EDT


Congrats, OP!

My boy and I are doing our first Appleseed next weekend. I'm just hoping to learn, I would be thrilled beyond all belief if the boy or I come home with a patch.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:42:48 PM EDT
Congrats OP! Loved Appleseed.

Want to go again.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:45:22 PM EDT
Good job. I'd love to do an appleseed! :)
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:48:48 PM EDT
I need to do another Apple seed.  I suspect my rifle skills have deteriorated.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:02:22 PM EDT
Once I figured out NPOA, it was easier than I thought.


Figuring out NPOA is hard. At least it was for me
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:52:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:03:24 AM EDT
Nice. Getting that patch is a good feeling. Seeing the fundamentals pay off at distance is nice too.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:18:49 AM EDT
That is quite the accomplishment!  

I worked hard at it.  Spent hours preparing and didn't come close.

The 1st day I spent it realizing everything I was doing was wrong.  I even had my scope installed incorrectly.  We had the bozo with the $2000 setup get pissed & leave too.  Had another fella show up with a HUGE gun.  He musta spent $2000 in ammo over the weekend.

Now I'm ready to do it again!!!!!!

My 1 suggestion for everyone.  Groupon  We saved $40 on the weekend for my bud & I.  That's more ammo & beer!
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:25:09 AM EDT
Awesome, congrats!

I'm going in October, looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:54:25 AM EDT
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I have not seen it available on Groupon for a while now.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:55:47 AM EDT
Great job I have been to one apple seed.  I failed to get patch by a few points several times.  So close but no cigar.  I was disappointed about that but I had such a good time that I will absolutely do it again.  I am determined to get it next time.  Its a tough 2 days of shooting thats for sure.  Fun stuff.

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:56:06 AM EDT
Cool

Are you using any upgraded trigger? Which sling?

I built a 20" /w carry handle sights last year hoping to do Appleseed and get into service rifle stuff. Haven't got around to it yet, maybe this summer. I have wondered how many guys using ARs are just using a standard mil style trigger.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:35:48 AM EDT
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Are you using any upgraded trigger? Which sling?

I built a 20" /w carry handle sights last year hoping to do Appleseed and get into service rifle stuff. Haven't got around to it yet, maybe this summer. I have wondered how many guys using ARs are just using a standard mil style trigger.
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Just a standard milspec trigger on my 80% lower (Suck it Ditchboy). They recommend that you use the USGI M1 Garand cotton/canvas rifle sling. Everyone in my class was using one.

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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 2:06:32 PM EDT
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Just a standard milspec trigger on my 80% lower (Suck it Ditchboy). They recommend that you use the USGI M1 Garand cotton/canvas rifle sling. Everyone on my class was using one.

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Cool that is all that I have, standard mil trigger (PSA Prem LBK) and a NOS USGI sling.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 2:10:11 PM EDT
I'm thinking of attending one this fall. I'm eager to see how I'll do.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:40:09 PM EDT
Update in op. I was also shooting steel case wolf
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:43:31 PM EDT
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Google Natural Point of Aim and find yours. They strsss this a lot in class. Once you figure it out, just work on the riflemans cadence and you should do fine.

My club is hosting another this October. I am going to go again.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:46:53 PM EDT
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Google Natural Point of Aim and find yours. They strsss this a lot in class. Once you figure it out, just work on the riflemans cadence and you should do fine.

My club is hosting another this October. I am going to go again.
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This is still taught in the Marine Corps
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