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9/19/2017 7:27:10 PM
Posted: 5/27/2003 8:52:42 AM EDT
Prostitution - one person is paid to have sex in private Pornography - both people are paid to have sex for an audience (typcially video) So why is one legal and one illegal?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 8:57:20 AM EDT
Because pronography is a taxable industry and prostitution is not?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:01:42 AM EDT
Neither should be illegal, and there is no difference worth mentioning. Sex for money, period. Another example of the "morality police" and victimless crime. As long as everyone involved is of legal age and consenting, leave it alone. And no, I don't hire prostitutes, but have no objections what so ever to anyone else doing that. Don't like prostitutes? Great, don't employ them. Don't like porn? Super....don't look at it. The end.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:04:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4: Neither should be illegal, and there is no difference worth mentioning. Sex for money, period. Another example of the "morality police" and victimless crime. As long as everyone involved is of legal age and consenting, leave it alone. And no, I don't hire prostitutes, but have no objections what so ever to anyone else doing that. Don't like prostitutes? Great, don't employ them. Don't like porn? Super....don't look at it. The end.
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Well said, and agreed in whole.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:08:51 AM EDT
One source of the unfavorable reputation enjoyed by the oldest profession is that prostitutes frequently service married folks (men). This is seen by society as something that encourages or at least facilitates infidelity. I would rather see stiffer penalties for cheaters. The traditional family started to fall apart the day we coined the phrase 'no-fault divorce' but that's a topic for a separate debate.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:14:09 AM EDT
The difference is: I can't get paid to have sex, so I have to pay for porn. [%|]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:16:05 AM EDT
Porn makes millions of more $$$ beacuse the politicians found a way to get their hand in the til. Also, when was the last time a DVD gave you VD? ANd last but not least, I've never seen Tony down at Jisart smackin around the movies to keep am in line.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:22:08 AM EDT
There is violence & VD in the Porn Industry, so I don't think that's entirely it. I just saw a video of a guy paying a young girl for a BJ at the mall (bathroom stall). So, she is paid, it's being used on a website as porno, but is that porno or prostitution?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:31:44 AM EDT
Don't ya get it? If you buy a B.J., it's just sex (subject to Executive Privilege exception). But if you film it, it's art. First Amendment free expression.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:46:12 AM EDT
Check your definitions, pornography is not "both people are paid to have sex for an audience (typcially video)" it has nothing to do with money. Selling pornography does. Why is one illegal and the other not? Depends where you go and what you are looking at/buying. It is illegal to own child pornography for instance and prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. gilfrd
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 9:52:38 AM EDT
I have never been able to understand why prostitution is illegal. After all, it is the woman's body. She should be allowed to do with it what she pleases. The law protects the woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body in other cases.[rolleyes]Either way...consenting adults should be allowed to screw the crap out of each other for money and/or put it in pictures/film..and it should not be illegal. If you get sick...you made the choice.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 10:17:15 AM EDT
Hey Fight4yourrights, Tells us more about the BJ movie at the mall. whas it on the next, did you buy it at the store or was it a rental?? was it any good? would you recomend it?? Badredfish [devil]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 10:54:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gilfrd: Check your definitions, pornography is not "both people are paid to have sex for an audience (typcially video)" it has nothing to do with money. Selling pornography does.
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This is true. The vast majority of porn stars do it for the love of the art. Really. No money changes hands.
Why is one illegal and the other not? Depends where you go and what you are looking at/buying. It is illegal to own child pornography for instance and prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. gilfrd
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Tell that to the Las Vegas cops. They'll have a good laugh while they're hauling off. Prostitution is legal in some parts of Nevada, not including Las Vegas.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:17:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:29:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Originally Posted By dave223: I have never been able to understand why prostitution is illegal. After all, it is the woman's body. She should be allowed to do with it what she pleases. The law protects the woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body in other cases.[rolleyes]Either way...consenting adults should be allowed to screw the crap out of each other for money
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Easy to say when it's not happening on your street, in front of your kids.
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Seriously, I never thought of that. I have never lived in an area like that, but Im sure it exists. Hell, I dont know what to say. Make it illegal only in the street? Chicken Ranch only? Very good point Jarhead. Consider me speechless.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:31:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22: Easy to say when it's not happening on your street, in front of your kids.
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Yep. So legalize it and move it indoors. They aren't filming porn movies on your street, in front of your kids, are they?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:20:07 PM EDT
But what about the children ??? seriously though , I have no problems with either , (think I'll personally pass on the prostitution ) , with everyone that is anti-this and anti- that , I just don't get it some times ....we are adults aren't we.... t
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:27:26 PM EDT
3d vs 2d
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:39:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:47:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22: Good idea, and it's so nice that's there's no illegal, off the books prostitution in Nevada since there are all those legal, expensive, regulated, taxed brothels, right?
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Using that logic, guns should be illegal because *some* people misuse them. Think man! Think!
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:58:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:05:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22: suddenly I'm the Quisling? Flush out your headgear, new guy.
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No, not a quisling. I'm just amused that one form of "pay for sex" is legal and one isn't. New guy? Me? Uh, okay.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:23:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:33:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 1:33:57 PM EDT by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 2:30:44 PM EDT
One difference is that you can rewind pornography.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 5:00:10 PM EDT
Treating the question with a seriousness that it probably doesn't deserve...The participants in porn are not paying to have sex, they are being paid to act on film. Their scenes happen to include sex. I've always wondered why this isn't used as a way to legally have prostitution in areas where prostitution is illegal. Take Kalifornia for example. Ironically, since this is a gun forum, guns are the example. Front Sight Firearms Training Institute originated in Kalifornia and is still based there. Us private citizens can't own Class 3 weapons there. 'Ol Piazza figured a way around the law. He rented a bunch of MG's from a movie supplier (Stembridge?) and had their guy on hand while a bunch of guys had fun shooting. I'm not sure, but I believe he had a video camera so that technically they were using the weapons to make a movie. The trick (as a pimp) would be to supply the girl and the location. The john would sign a contract to produce a porno film. He pays the director (the pimp) and the actress (the prostitute) and they film their little session. He goes home with the video and technically, an act of prostitution has not occurred. The problem fight4yourrights, is that you are confusing morality with legality. Morally, there may be little or no difference between pornography and prostitution, but legally...
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 5:10:37 PM EDT
I don't know where the moral gradients for America finally hit rock bottom, but when we legalize prostitution, I think we're come pretty damn close. There has to be a point, somewhere, where we say this is wrong, and this is right. If we legalize prostitution, what is the age range? Should we permit 19 year old prostitutes? How about 17? 15? 12? Of course, we all agree there shouldn't be 12 year old prostitutes. That same moral litmus that causes 12 year old prostitutes to be disagreeable is the same thing that causes prostitution to be disagreeable overall to me.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 5:30:28 PM EDT
What's the difference? Same as the difference between spit and swallow..... Did I say that out loud?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 5:33:01 PM EDT
Prostitution is being hungry, unable to cook for yourself or have someone you love cook for you and buying takeout. Of course, your budget determines if it's filet mignon that's been prepared to your exact liking, something quick, tasty and filling from Taco Bell or some skanky, bus stop vending machine, plastic-wrapped half-sandwich of mystery meat that makes you pray the "chef" didn't have Hep-C or something worse. Pornography is being hungry and watching a movie of some guy you don't know snarfing down a bacon cheeseburger that you'll never get your hands on, mostly because it's a 2-dimensional image with no substance. Never did see the value in it unless you've got a good enough imagination to picture that burger while you're wolfing down the grilled cheese you just slapped together. Just MHO.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 8:03:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 8:16:30 PM EDT by sharky30]
I've never understood prostitution laws it's legal to walk into a bar and have sex with some random person after you both leave the bar, unless you give them a dollar, then it's illegal
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 8:05:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sharky30: I've never understood prostitution laws it's legal to walk into a bar and have sex with some random person, unless you give them a dollar, then it's illegal
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... but you can buy them drinks and breakfast in the am.
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