Privately Built Submarine in missing journalist case sunk on purpose, Danish police say

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Posted: 8/14/2017 9:23:55 PM EST

An amateur submarine maker is in custody in Copenhagen as police investigate the disappearance of a Swedish journalist who had been onboard his vessel before he is alleged to have deliberately sunk it off Denmark’s east coast.

Peter Madsen, a Danish inventor whose crowdfunded submarine Nautilus sank near Copenhagen on Friday, was arrested on preliminary manslaughter charges but has denied responsibility for the fate of 30-year-old Kim Wall.

He claims she disembarked on an island about three-and-a-half hours into their trip on Thursday night, according to Copenhagen police.

Police spokesman Jens Møller Jensen said on Sunday that the submarine had been raised from the sea bed and searched but no body had been discovered. The search for Wall in the water, from the air and on land, continues.

Møller Jensen added that there were indications that Madsen deliberately sank his submarine.

On Saturday, after a two-hour custody hearing held in private, Judge Kari Sørensen ordered that Madsen be held in pre-trial detention for 24 days while the investigation into Wall’s disappearance continued.

Prosecutor Louise Pedersen said Madsen faced a preliminary manslaughter charge “for having killed in an unknown way and in an unknown place Kim Isabell Frerika Wall of Sweden sometime after Thursday 5pm”.

Madsen’s defence lawyer, Betina Hald Engmark, said her client maintains his innocence. He is “willing to cooperate” and hasn’t decided whether to appeal the detention ruling, Hald Engmark said.

Wall, a freelance journalist, had been writing about Madsen and his submarine at the time of disappearing, according to Swedish and Danish reports.

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https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/13/submarine-maker-held-as-search-for-kim-wall-continues

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:25:16 PM EST

[#1]

Freakin' Dutchmen.

Ya can't trust them.

Not one bit.

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:29:35 PM EST

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Madsen faced a preliminary manslaughter charge “for having killed in an unknown way and in an
unknown place Kim Isabell Frerika Wall of Sweden sometime after Thursday
5pm”.

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Posted: 8/14/2017 9:30:07 PM EST

[#3]

So where did he dump the body.

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:33:35 PM EST

[#4]

... that's a rather bizarre story

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:35:40 PM EST

[#5]

I hope they get to the bottom of this.

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:39:06 PM EST

[#6]

His story really doesn't hold any water

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:40:18 PM EST

[#7]

You can ask, "What did she have on Hillary?" in this case.

She was investigating the crime foundation.

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:40:23 PM EST

[#8]

another one checked off the Clinton kill list

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:41:04 PM EST

[#9]

3 hour tour, eh?

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:44:34 PM EST

[#10]

Full marks for creativity, though. Private submarine and all that, just to ~~hide a body~~ off a journalist poking around the Clinton Foundation.

I'd have used a shallow grave in the desert, vegas mob-style. If I were the murdering, body-hiding kind. Which I'm not.

Posted: 8/14/2017 9:47:57 PM EST

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You can ask, "What did she have on Hillary?" in this case.

She was investigating the crime foundation.

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No shit.

Posted: 8/14/2017 10:59:06 PM EST

[#12]

this sure raises some questions

Posted: 8/15/2017 12:08:24 AM EST

[#13]

So much wtf going on in that story.

Posted: 8/15/2017 12:14:11 AM EST

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... that's a rather bizarre story

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No kidding

Posted: 8/15/2017 12:23:30 AM EST

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Freakin' Dutchmen.

Ya can't trust them.

Not one bit.

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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:25:14 AM EST

[#16]

...there were indications that Madsen deliberately sank his submarine...

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Isn't that kinda what submarines do?

Posted: 8/15/2017 12:46:17 AM EST

[#17]

hmmm.......I'm thinking that once they got going underwater Capt Submarine tried getting pervy and got some resistance from the reporter lady. dumped the body, scuttled the sub.

Posted: 8/15/2017 12:55:19 AM EST

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there's a lot of pressure to do so.

Posted: 8/15/2017 4:11:38 AM EST

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Freakin' Dutchmen.

Ya can't trust them.

Not one bit.

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Truth.

Posted: 8/15/2017 5:13:37 AM EST

[#20]

She didn't want to be part of his mile deep club.

He probably sunk it to get rid of the blood evidence.

Posted: 8/15/2017 5:22:03 AM EST

[#21]

Something fishy about him.

Posted: 8/15/2017 5:27:53 AM EST

[#22]

I'll have a foot long......and a coke.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:49:09 AM EST

[#23]

Hmm... I posted about the guy a few months ago... hmm...

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:52:59 AM EST

[#24]

Headless body confirmed hers.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:53:41 AM EST

[#25]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/danish-police-confirm-torso-found-copenhagen-journalist-kim-wall

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:57:09 AM EST

[#26]

The story is a bit Hague on the details.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:03:44 PM EST

[#27]

Freaky Dutchman builds a sub, is the last to see a pretty girl alive, sub sinks, and then her headless torso is found.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:05:07 PM EST

[#28]

He just need to hit the head

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:06:00 PM EST

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That was going to be my post.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:10:12 PM EST

[#30]

His story changed a few times.

First he dropped her off.

Then she died in an accident and he gave her a burial at sea.

They've found her blood inside the sub and identified her headless and limbless body. The limbs and head were cut off purposely.

Seems to be cut and dry.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:11:22 PM EST

[#31]

He claims she had a accident and he decided to give her burial at sea

Guessing his lawyer is going for the insane defence. Dunno how Daneland is but our institutes for the criminaly insane are pretty good with thing like small appartments and indoor heated swimming pools etc.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:14:07 PM EST

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Posted: 8/23/2017 12:17:01 PM EST

[#33]

If anything will sink him it's going to be this.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:21:50 PM EST

[#34]

We've had threads about that particular Dutchman and the cool submarine he designed and built.

Looks like his goose is cooked though.

ETA: the police are now looking at him for the murder of a female Japanese tourist.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:23:49 PM EST

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Yep. Now that the body has been found, his entire defense will implode. I'm sure the pressure on him to plead guilty will only increase. Guess there is no depth to his depravity - the charges are certainly justified.

Posted: 8/23/2017 12:29:24 PM EST

[#36]

Suicide.

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:08:41 PM EST

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Posted: 8/23/2017 1:16:57 PM EST

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Freakin' Dutchmen.

Ya can't trust them.

Not one bit.

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lol

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:25:00 PM EST

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On Wednesday Madsen’s lawyer said her client still maintains that Wall died accidentally, and that the discovery of the journalist’s torso did not mean he was guilty of killing her.

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Let's see:
1) decaptitated to prevent identification
2) body slashed to prevent gases from causing the torso to surface
3) body weighed down to keep it from floating
4) blood found on submarine.
5) submarine was scuttled when rescue ship appears, ensuring the survival of Madsen.

I say guilty.

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:27:01 PM EST

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Let's see:
1) decaptitated to prevent identification
2) body slashed to prevent gases from causing the torso to surface
3) body weighed down to keep it from floating
4) blood found on submarine.
5) submarine was scuttled when rescue ship appears, ensuring the survival of Madsen.

I say guilty.

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I'm sure there's an innocent explanation.

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:27:06 PM EST

[#41]

Burial at sea, eh?

Was she muslim?

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:28:57 PM EST

[#42]

Hopefully the truth comes to the surface..

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:30:35 PM EST

[#43]

He better have a water tight alibi.

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:32:09 PM EST

[#44]

Did he name his sub "The Drowning Dutchman?"

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:38:26 PM EST

[#45]

Really should have had more ballast.

That body was not supposed to wash up on shore, he needed to keep it at the bottom of the bay...

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:38:41 PM EST

[#46]

Think it was named "20,000 Leaks Under the Sea".

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:40:13 PM EST

[#47]

Alabi sunk.

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:43:32 PM EST

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She lives between New York and Beijing, the family said, and has written for titles including the Guardian, New York Times, South China Morning Post and Vice. Her LinkedIn page says she writes about “identity, gender, pop-culture, social justice, foreign policy and the undercurrents of rebellion”.

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