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Posted: 10/2/2014 6:45:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 6:48:26 AM EST by crzapy]
I am not military but with 3000 troops being ordered to Africa to 'fight' Ebola I was wondering what is the point? It's not like you can attack a virus with ineffective drone strikes and an M16.

What will this accomplish as soldiers are not medical professionals and you are simply exposing our men and women to additional risks with little reward.

So if I was in the army and received orders to go to Africa I think I might become a conscientious objector right quick. What say the hive?

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:47:52 AM EST
I met one this past Saturday that's being deployed to W. Africa within the next few weeks.....He was not a happy camper.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:49:00 AM EST
Bring them here so they can walk around the malls for a few days and then treat them.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:50:09 AM EST
Fuck yea I go. As soon as I hit the ground I also fuck a monkey to guarantee that I also get Aids as well as Ebola. Let's get this party started.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:50:35 AM EST
I am not Military, so when did soldiers become Doctors?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:55:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
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By God, you'll do as you're TOLD, troop...

(FBHO is ALWAYS the correct answer)
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:57:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By irishtech:
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how long beforwe a jihadi gets that idea? may be happening as we speak, but lets embrace diversity and keep those borders open, baby... cough, cough...
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:57:10 AM EST
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When community organizers became President.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:10:28 AM EST
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how long before a jihadi gets that idea? may be happening as we speak, but lets embrace diversity and keep those borders open, baby... cough, cough...
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Originally Posted By OMCHamlin:
Originally Posted By irishtech:
Bring them here so they can walk around the malls for a few days and then treat them.


how long before a jihadi gets that idea? may be happening as we speak, but lets embrace diversity and keep those borders open, baby... cough, cough...



IIRC, it takes about 12 months to groom a suicide bomber for their mission. I'm assuming that a similar paradigm exists for this type of bio-suicide mission though the time frame could be compressed if the suicide bomber was already well into the indoctrination pipeline. He/ she'd just have to be re-vectored for the bio mission profile. So the short answer is that it might be happening as we write this or some time in the near future. The clown in the oval office has no fucking idea what the west is up against....or he does and is facilitating it. May God protect this nation....we're going to need it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:10:56 AM EST
FBHO
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:15:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 7:16:12 AM EST by harmanrk]
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IIRC, it takes about 12 months to groom a suicide bomber for their mission. I'm assuming that a similar paradigm exists for this type of bio-suicide mission though the time frame could be compressed if the suicide bomber was already well into the indoctrination pipeline. He/ she'd just have to be re-vectored for the bio mission profile. So the short answer is that it might be happening as we write this or some time in the near future. The clown in the oval office has no fucking idea what the west is up against....or he does and is facilitating it. May God protect this nation....we're going to need it.
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Originally Posted By pdm:
Originally Posted By OMCHamlin:
Originally Posted By irishtech:
Bring them here so they can walk around the malls for a few days and then treat them.


how long before a jihadi gets that idea? may be happening as we speak, but lets embrace diversity and keep those borders open, baby... cough, cough...



IIRC, it takes about 12 months to groom a suicide bomber for their mission. I'm assuming that a similar paradigm exists for this type of bio-suicide mission though the time frame could be compressed if the suicide bomber was already well into the indoctrination pipeline. He/ she'd just have to be re-vectored for the bio mission profile. So the short answer is that it might be happening as we write this or some time in the near future. The clown in the oval office has no fucking idea what the west is up against....or he does and is facilitating it. May God protect this nation....we're going to need it.


Two Iranian nationals were arrested this week trying to enter a West Africa country on fake Isreali passports. The above was my first thought on reading that headline.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:21:48 AM EST
You signed up, you'll do as you're ordered.

That being said, I'm not sure what role our guys will have over there other than security for aid workers? I really have no idea. I do know my Raider buddies are chomping at the bit to get into Africa, but that doesn't necessarily mean W. Africa to fight Ebola... But one thing is certain: Nobody wants to go back to Afghanistan.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:24:48 AM EST
Eff that. I wouldn't go there unless I was in a full biohazard suit 24-7
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:31:55 AM EST
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Two Iranian nationals were arrested this week trying to enter a West Africa country on fake Isreali passports. The above was my first thought on reading that headline.
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Right continent, wrong country. It was Kenya..


Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:33:33 AM EST
Hell no I won't go
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:33:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pdm:



IIRC, it takes about 12 months to groom a suicide bomber for their mission. I'm assuming that a similar paradigm exists for this type of bio-suicide mission though the time frame could be compressed if the suicide bomber was already well into the indoctrination pipeline. He/ she'd just have to be re-vectored for the bio mission profile. So the short answer is that it might be happening as we write this or some time in the near future. The clown in the oval office has no fucking idea what the west is up against....or he does and is facilitating it. May God protect this nation....we're going to need it.
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Originally Posted By pdm:
Originally Posted By OMCHamlin:
Originally Posted By irishtech:
Bring them here so they can walk around the malls for a few days and then treat them.


how long before a jihadi gets that idea? may be happening as we speak, but lets embrace diversity and keep those borders open, baby... cough, cough...



IIRC, it takes about 12 months to groom a suicide bomber for their mission. I'm assuming that a similar paradigm exists for this type of bio-suicide mission though the time frame could be compressed if the suicide bomber was already well into the indoctrination pipeline. He/ she'd just have to be re-vectored for the bio mission profile. So the short answer is that it might be happening as we write this or some time in the near future. The clown in the oval office has no fucking idea what the west is up against....or he does and is facilitating it. May God protect this nation....we're going to need it.

Yesterday, we were told that is a stupid fucking idea and that Ebola and Muslims don't spread that way.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:33:57 AM EST
This is a role for UN troops, not US. What is their objective and how vital is that to US interests?

I'd rather see them on the border protecting the US from foreign dangers.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:37:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By m193:
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Yesterday, we were told that is a stupid fucking idea and that Ebola and Muslims don't spread that way.
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Who told you that?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:41:45 AM EST
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Who told you that?
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Yesterday, we were told that is a stupid fucking idea and that Ebola and Muslims don't spread that way.



Who told you that?

IIRC, the_one.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:42:21 AM EST
FBHO
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:48:02 AM EST
I don't see what authority he has to send combat troops to an area to contain disease. The imperial presidency doesn't care about the law. He makes them up as he s(h)its upon his sh*tter (throne).
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:49:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pdm:
Fuck yea I go. As soon as I hit the ground I also fuck a monkey to guarantee that I also get Aids as well as Ebola. Let's get this party started.
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What if the cure for Ebola is Aids...
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:53:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 7:54:45 AM EST by 444]
I certainly wouldn't want to go there.
And I think it is an enormous mistake to send US anything there.
I think it is a gigantic mistake to allow people from that region to fly into the US.

That being said, if I was in the military I would do exactly what they told me to do. That is part of being in the military. In the military you don't normally take votes on IF you are going to follow orders.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:55:23 AM EST
Originally Posted By pdm:
Fuck yea I go. As soon as I hit the ground I also fuck a monkey to guarantee that I also get Aids as well as Ebola. Let's get this party started.
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Screw the monkey, then eat the monkey. That should do it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:30:45 PM EST
So nobody thinks the plan is to bring infected troops back home.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:36:38 PM EST
I haven't read anything about it, but I would guess that we are going to start pushing medical supplies and personnel into those countries.

It turns out that the US military is better at logistics than pretty much anything else, and that keeps coming in handy in places like Haiti, Indonesia, and Japan.

Now, some of you have no idea what the US military is capable of, and that's OK, but please, don't feel the need to convey your ignorance at the slights provocation. It's tiresome.

As for the question of whether you would go. You'd better. If you've sworn the Oath of Enlistment or the Oath of Office you understand your responsibilities, and the consequences for willfully disobeying.

Originally Posted By pdm:
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You do not recall correctly.

They are groomed for a few weeks, maybe a few months, but once they are recruited they aren't allowed to go home or see family. They go to a safe house, make their video if appropriate, and then they get to work.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:40:03 PM EST
All planned to get a foot hold in Africa for its resources and labor.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:40:08 PM EST
The news report on the radio this afternoon said 1400 troops are being sent within the next few weeks to build hospitals, but not directly care for Ebola patients.

So who knows. .....
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:41:05 PM EST
Well, it's that or prison and a life after that as a second class felon citizen.

Not really much of a choice.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:42:20 PM EST
I remember when we aided the Un bringing aide and supplies into another African country. Soon we were embroiled in a war with local warlords that didn't end well. It all began in the name of protecting aide. On top of that there was only khat chewing Ak wielding skinnies and not a biblical plague.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:42:32 PM EST
I remember when we aided the Un bringing aide and supplies into another African country. Soon we were embroiled in a war with local warlords that didn't end well. It all began in the name of protecting aide. On top of that there was only khat chewing Ak wielding skinnies and not a biblical plague.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:42:48 PM EST
Hah! Jokes on him, the disease I got in Afghanistan made me permanently nondeployable.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:44:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By crzapy:
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I'm neither crazy nor a pussy, so...no.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 5:56:03 PM EST
I'd go. Doesn't bother me to provide security for doctors.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:00:48 PM EST
1. This thread has ebola, as well as aids syphillis and herpes.
2, I have a piece of paper (actually several dozen as I made lots of copies) that says I never have to wear a uniform or take orders again.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:53:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
I don't see what authority he has to send combat troops to an area to contain disease. The imperial presidency doesn't care about the law. He makes them up as he s(h)its upon his sh*tter (throne).
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I haven't seen so much ignorance packed into a single sentence in a long time, and for GD that's saying a lot
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:54:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By crzapy:
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coming close
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:57:34 PM EST
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I remember when we aided the Un bringing aide and supplies into another African country. Soon we were embroiled in a war with local warlords that didn't end well. It all began in the name of protecting aide. On top of that there was only khat chewing Ak wielding skinnies and not a biblical plague.
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posting it twice doesn't make it double stupid. Beside the content is not bad, execution fails.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:06:21 PM EST
Wouldn't like it, but obviously go.
CIC says jump, mil says "How high, sir?".
That's the terms of enlistment.

Nick
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:08:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BIKECOP29:
When community organizers became President.
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Originally Posted By Tomtbo:
I am not Military, so when did soldiers become Doctors?
When community organizers became President.


Community organizers and asbestos removers.

Oh, and Constitutional scholars.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:28:21 PM EST
I'm going to put this as succinctly and nicely as possible, because OP is sounding like a lot of other posters at the moment:


Read a fucking book.

The relationship between the U.S. and the world is a complex one. We are a global superpower balancing significant political, social, and economic relationships on a daily basis. Part of that balance is projection of power while maintaining and looking after our own national interests. Sometimes that is legitimately called into question, which is why you rarely see us put troops on the ground solely for "peacekeeping" purposes... there's chucklehead countries that are more than willing to do that to gain prestige locally, since all they have are warm bodies and no money (here's looking at you, Chad.)

But, if you think for one hot second that we are sending troops in solely to save African kids, then you really have no grasp on what is going on. That's like saying we fought WW2 solely to save Jews.

We are one of the few countries with the capability to project assistance in cases like this, and every major health organization in the world that has weighed in on this situation has advised of dire consequences, regionally and potentially globally, for lack of containment. There are no models predicting major deaths in Western countries, but the economic fallout for even a minor or moderate scare will be easily estimated in the billions.

We assist and subsequently cover our own asses. Not a difficult equation. No doomsday nonsense. No Illuminati crap. No "Obama trying to save his brothahs" shit. It's pure, unadulterated self-interest, economically and politically.

Hell, Bush would have sent 6000 troops plus an extra carrier in case someone threw a molotov at us.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:28:44 PM EST
They're called "orders" not "requests".

Wouldn't be happy about it. Would do my best to never come within 25 yds of a local.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:30:49 PM EST
DON'T EAT THE BUSH-MEAT!!..
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