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Posted: 9/11/2004 10:04:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:17:08 PM EST
The imports and quality weapons will fall some but will stabilize. Unless HK decides to build 9x series guns in the USA. Colts will always be worth more but the price will also fall as full option post post ban guns become available. The off brands like that Sendra? and clones will be dirt cheap. Not to mention the artificial high price of AKs will fall to a reasonable level.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:20:44 PM EST
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:26:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




???

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:28:03 PM EST
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:29:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 10:29:36 PM EST by SGB]
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:30:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...



I'm guessing that you didn't buy many ars pre-94.

Dealer on a pos parts gun was $500... but you could buy 4 SKSs for three bills or about ten Raven 25 autos.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:33:54 PM EST
I bought my ARs pre ban for around $650. This was for Colt guns. I wish I was shopping at the places you were for $300. I doubt it. I dont think a Colt was ever in the $300 range.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:36:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
I bought my ARs pre ban for around $650. This was for Colt guns. I wish I was shopping at the places you were for $300. I doubt it. I dont think a Colt was ever in the $300 range.



If you bought a new colt anytime in the 90s for less than $800 you got a deal.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:36:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:36:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
C'mon..ar's were worth what...3 bills before the ban? Dealers couldn't give them away...



I remember seeing Colt AR-15's at the sporting goods store in San Jacinto Mall (Oshman's) back in 1988 for $700.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:40:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 10:40:29 PM EST by John91498]
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:45:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



I don't get your reasoning. Between right now and in a couple days the only difference will be the bayo lug, flashhider and possible telestock (depending on model). Are you actually buying into the whole "streets will be flooded with assault weapons" crap?

What reason is there for the prices to drop? Supply will be the same, demand will be the same. The only differences will be cosmetic.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:47:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 10:48:10 PM EST by John91498]
No, is a Colt really worth the extra cash? Will a bushmaster or RRA or Olympic or ASA or Armalite or a million other manufactors outshoot a Colt or are you buying the name brand?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:48:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



The parts for a decent ar cost around $500 - $1000 right now. (depending on what you consider decent )

I don't see how the ban going away is going to change that much. Is "Billy Machinist" suddenly going to decide that is barrels are only worth $150 because the ban went away? Strongly doubt it... But hey, you live in Kali, you can get half a dozen for $50 on any street corner. That's what Fineswine tells us anyway.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:49:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Groovinator:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same. The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:51:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:

Originally Posted By The_Groovinator:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same. The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...


Taxation is the most widespread form of restriction.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:51:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By John91498:
You can get quality ar's for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



The parts for a decent ar cost around $500 - $1000 right now. (depending on what you consider decent )

I don't see how the ban going away is going to change that much. Is "Billy Machinist" suddenly going to decide that is barrels are only worth $150 because the ban went away? Strongly doubt it... But hey, you live in Kali, you can get half a dozen for $50 on any street corner. That's what Fineswine tells us anyway.



We covet what we cannot get...if all of a sudden all the evil guns are now legal, would you spend the same amount of money for a legal versus an illegal gun? I think not...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:51:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:53:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By John91498:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.



Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:54:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA: Earth to John.



Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:55:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:56:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By John91498:
The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Earth to John, "The Feds" never restricted the sale of parts.



Well, that's like telling me I can buy all the radar detectors I want, but I can't use it to detect radar...get it???
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 10:57:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By John91498:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?



Where do I say it makes it more expensive??!!!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:00:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 4:38:01 AM EST by Sub-MOA]

Originally Posted By John91498:

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By John91498:
Yeah, but you can't apply the parts...



And that would make them more expensive?? How?



Where do I say it makes it more expensive??!!!



When you stated that when the ban went away they would be less so.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:02:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:04:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:05:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...



Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:06:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 11:08:04 PM EST by NYPatriot]
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:08:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!





not yet we still have 19 hours left, you never know Pres Bush might sign an executive order renewing it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:09:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Damn guys, stop all the bickering & celebrate... we WON!!!



but for how long??? Someone needs to step up...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:14:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 11:16:40 PM EST by NYPatriot]
Dude, take your negativity elsewhere. It's obvious you are looking to stir up shit for your own amusement, and I'm not having it.

We fought hard & we WON... it's time to catch our breath, crack a cold one, and thread a muzzle or two!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:16:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Dude, take your negativity elsewhere. It's obvious you are looking to stir up shit for your own amusement, and I'm not having it.

We fought hard & we WON... it's time to catch our breath, crack a cold one, and thread a damn barrel or two!



Really??? Tell me what you did...I was in the middle of the fight and I got BURNED...tell me what you did...
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:18:04 PM EST
Somebody is off his meds. tonight.

Take care John.

NYP
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:21:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:

Originally Posted By The_Groovinator:
Supply will be the same, demand will be the same. The only differences will be cosmetic.



Supply will NOT be the same. The feds are NOT restricting the guns...



Are you talking about preban AR-15's and how the prices will drop because of the sunset (thus the preban becomes just another used AR-15)? Otherwise you're not making a whole lot of sense.

Right now I can purchase a brand new AR-15. I've done it a few times. Starting monday I can purchase a brand new AR-15. The only differences between the firearms will be cosmetic. There is no great ramp up or slow down in production, so supply will remain fairly constant. Law abiding citizens could always (during the last 10 years in free states), purchase AR-15's as they still will be able to. So no great jump in demand. There will be a higher demand for parts and for a short time firearms with cool features. Then it will stabilize as it always does.

I'm not seeing where you say the price of AR-15's will drop like a rock on Monday. It's not going to happen. If you're talking about prebans, then okay.

My apologize rickinvegas for the hijack.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:24:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Somebody is off his meds. tonight.

Take care John.

NYP



goodnight...obviously you can't specify a real fight...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:21:12 AM EST
Pre-94 prices already falling like a rock

Tell that to some of the gougers over on the E&E.....
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 12:51:18 AM EST
In 1978 I paid $431.87 for my Colt,NIB,AR-15,carbine...out the door including sales tax.I still have it and it is still not for sale.Used to sell XM-177,style carbines for around $499.99,in late 80's.Prices on parts and receivers have gone WAY up since then.


So $300.00 for an AR,new,has allways been wishfull thinking.Unless it was stolen.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:04:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...



You're just saying that because you're from Kalifonistan and can't own one!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:27:13 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:01:56 AM EST
Right now my local dealer has about eight AR's. They have no bayo lug, no FH and no collapsible stock.

Why would I want to pay $750.00 to $850.00 for that AR and then have to invest more money and time into converting it when I can wait till a No-ban comes out with all the features I want?

Thus...............those prices might drop or they will still be in his inventory for years to come.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:19:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
Right now my local dealer has about eight AR's. They have no bayo lug, no FH and no collapsible stock.

Why would I want to pay $750.00 to $850.00 for that AR and then have to invest more money and time into converting it when I can wait till a No-ban comes out with all the features I want?

Thus...............those prices might drop or they will still be in his inventory for years to come.



exactly..
you couldnt get me to pay 750$+ on an post ban,,, the onesout there now will drop,,, not much but they will,,, i bet you could see a bushy or such post ban for under 500$ within a few weeks to a month or so untill the newer NO ban modles come out,, those on the other hand will command a higer price for sure,, and hopefully the dealers wont gouge the price,,, the pre 94's will drop but not much,,, id say around 700ish,,, they wouldnt be a reason to have the high price,,
10+ yr old gun 800$ or a brand new Ar with all the goodies for 800$,,,hmmmmmmm not ahard choice,, id go with the newer rifle,,,,, why buy used!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:25:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:29:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
You can get quality ar's piece o'shit offbrand crap toys for around six hundred right now. Are they gonna drop like a rock after monday??? I think so...Is the name brand really worth that much more???



Fixed it for you
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:31:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 4:43:59 AM EST by FREEFALLE6]
Well I bought a AR15 HBAR in 1987 for $850.

Now you can buy a new one for less than $1000.

so in 17 years ARs have only gone up $200-300 in price. I made $612 a month in 1987 and now I make $4500 a month so from my perspective ARs are dirt cheap. I should own 20 of them, but the wife talked me into buying a old house with 5 acres of land.

I just built a RRA M4 for $570,
RRA lower $165
buffer tube $20
Used flat top upper(RRA, Wilson barrel) $250
Bolt group $90
The only thing it needs is a carry handle.

so yes ARs are dirt cheap. I carried a M4 for 7 1/2 months in Afghanistan and its no POS.
FREE

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:32:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...



Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:34:44 AM EST
It would appear that John91498 came out from under the rock.
FREE




Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:43:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Stickman:
Pre-94 prices already falling like a rock

Tell that to some of the gougers over on the E&E.....



Notice all the action they are getting, Most have Zero replies!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:02:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By John91498:

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By John91498:
About time...an ar is not worth more than four hundred bucks in my opinion. If it wasn't for the ban, the ar would be worth two bills max...Honestly, the ar is a POS...




where did you come from??



The greatest state in the nation, California. Bow down to us, you pathetic fools...



Kalifornia is a Republic, not a state.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:05:38 AM EST
How would you know about prices John? Youre in a state that will not allow citizens to own ARs. Just suck it up and admit you pissed and whinning like little girl because you cant have one!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:15:26 AM EST
Man, some people are dense.
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