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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:54:34 AM EDT
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Article image is a little odd, but I'll read it.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:56:59 AM EDT
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lol, paying for porn
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:01:14 PM EDT
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I'm not going to disagree with all of it...
but the following is a little hypocritical : "It teaches young men to use women for sex and then to discard them when they become unwilling or uninteresting. This means that it has given us a generation of young men completely unprepared for marriage and for fatherhood." Women are letting themselves be used and discarded and actually using and discarding men for sex. The women similar to the men are unprepared for marriage and motherhood. I talk to my younger friends and, even considering I'm not that old, I'm floored by what is happening. Yeah I know, " back when I was younger ..blah blah blah"....no really, back when I was younger it really was different. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:01:39 PM EDT
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A lot of people just don't want to hear it, for some it will be ignorance, others denial.
So, nothing will happen. Sex as a product is more endemic in this culture than tobacco ever was. Particularly because of the link it bears to our most basic evolutionary desires. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:02:57 PM EDT
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What these men want, by definition, isn’t a sexual experience but a pornographic one. Get yer rocks off without any drama? Who the fuck would ever want that? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:03:39 PM EDT
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A lot of people just don't want to hear it, for some it will be ignorance, others denial. So, nothing will happen. Sex as a product is more endemic in this culture than tobacco ever was. What could "Happen," exactly? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:04:55 PM EDT
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"The sexual revolution promised us more sex and more pleasure. It has actually delivered to us a generation of men who think of women as objects to be used and abused for their sexual pleasure. It has not given us men who know what virtue and honor are. It doesn’t teach men to pursue their joy in self-sacrificially loving and being sexually faithful to one woman for life. It teaches young men to use women for sex and then to discard them when they become unwilling or uninteresting. This means that it has given us a generation of young men completely unprepared for marriage and for fatherhood."
This is where these guys lose credibility to me. This sort of self righteous spiritual bullshit is the same argument as "Kids these days aren't as good as my generation was". Similar to the stories about kids who smoked pot then died when they jumped off a building trying to fly. People like porn in the same way that they like food and money. It's quite literally genetically hardwired into humans to like sex. Sure, people get addicted to it, but I'd argue that alcoholism is far more common, destructive, and socially accepted. Where's the outrage with that? What is this, footloose? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:04:55 PM EDT
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This thread has potential.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:05:30 PM EDT
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Government use of a pseudo science to mandate what is legal to protect psychological development.
For the children. I am sure, they wouldn't use that mandate to target other groups once they have gained legitimacy by manipulating the moral virtues of the masses. You know like gun owners... surely not. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:06:24 PM EDT
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I don't think those well oiled machines I saw were for public relations.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:06:42 PM EDT
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What could "Happen," exactly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A lot of people just don't want to hear it, for some it will be ignorance, others denial. So, nothing will happen. Sex as a product is more endemic in this culture than tobacco ever was. What could "Happen," exactly? Regulate it! Tax it! Ban it! Do something! |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:06:59 PM EDT
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What could "Happen," exactly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A lot of people just don't want to hear it, for some it will be ignorance, others denial. So, nothing will happen. Sex as a product is more endemic in this culture than tobacco ever was. What could "Happen," exactly? Bunches of single mothers who vote democrat and produce children who will also vote democrat, for starters. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:07:10 PM EDT
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I like porn, but I like softcore porn where both people seem to be actually enjoying themselves and nobody is spitting in anyone's mouth, gaping assholes, or whipping anyone.
I'm vanilla like that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:07:24 PM EDT
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I wish more people were taught classical history. We were sexually dysfunctional long before pornography. Heck, in morally uptight Victorian England it was common for gentlemen to visit child brothels.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:08:20 PM EDT
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wow...
I think the block quotes outnumber the author's words 10 to 1... |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:09:04 PM EDT
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I bet they "researched" this a lot .
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:09:48 PM EDT
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I wish more people were taught classical history. We were sexually dysfunctional long before pornography. Heck, in morally uptight Victorian England it was common for gentlemen to visit child brothels. I wish more people were taught critical thinking, so that they could see how shit like this could be used in other ways once it is given the force of government mandate. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:09:58 PM EDT
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Time has baited a hook and dropped it in the water. Now they are just waiting for a Republican politician to latch on to this story and repeat it so late night TV and the rest of the media can use them to paint all republicans as a Christian version of the Taliban.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:10:10 PM EDT
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wow... I think the block quotes outnumber the author's words 10 to 1... Why write an article when you can just take someone else's article, cut it down to the talking points, and insert a few lines of comments? SMH... modern "journalism" |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:10:17 PM EDT
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I like porn, but I like softcore porn where both people seem to be actually enjoying themselves and nobody is spitting in anyone's mouth, gaping assholes, or whipping anyone. I'm vanilla like that. That's gateway porn. Pretty soon you'll be searching for Cleveland steamers and snuff porn. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:10:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:11:22 PM EDT
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It's weird to me how the women's lib movement and the religion establishment go hand and hand.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:12:56 PM EDT
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It's weird to me how the women's lib movement and the religion establishment go hand and hand. you mean, like the women's lib pro-life stance? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:13:07 PM EDT
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Sounds like a bunch o crap.....more phyco babble from anti this or that group!
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:14:40 PM EDT
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Government use of a pseudo science to mandate what is legal to protect psychological development. For the children. I am sure, they wouldn't use that mandate to target other groups once they have gained legitimacy by manipulating the moral virtues of the masses. You know like gun owners... surely not. Are you paranoid? Because that sounds paranoid and as your neighbor I feel the responsibility to contact your physician and local police so they can get you mental health aid and remove any dangerous objects from your access. There might even be monetary reward for my concern. 
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, paying for porn Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, paying for porn saw scores of men paying for access to an adult entertainment convention |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:16:01 PM EDT
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Haven't read the article, sure it has valid points. but....
"This is why, for example, Kevin Williamson saw scores of men paying for access to an adult entertainment convention when cheaper and legal prostitution was nearby. What these men want, by definition, isn’t a sexual experience but a pornographic one. " That is the most asinine and convoluted use of logic I've seen all day. Why even assume that people going to a PORN convention want to see anything but PORN? It's not like it pulled away a guy looking for a hooker. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:17:16 PM EDT
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Paging Diesel
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:19:26 PM EDT
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you mean, like the women's lib pro-life stance? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's weird to me how the women's lib movement and the religion establishment go hand and hand. you mean, like the women's lib pro-life stance? Probably more like both are batshit crazy and fuck up this country politically. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:22:33 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:23:42 PM EDT
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Haven't read the article, sure it has valid points. but.... "This is why, for example, Kevin Williamson saw scores of men paying for access to an adult entertainment convention when cheaper and legal prostitution was nearby. What these men want, by definition, isn’t a sexual experience but a pornographic one. " That is the most asinine and convoluted use of logic I've seen all day. Why even assume that people going to a PORN convention want to see anything but PORN? It's not like it pulled away a guy looking for a hooker. Porn never gave anyone chlamydia. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:24:19 PM EDT
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Article is mostly true
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:24:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Liberals hate, traditionally male c entered activities hunting, guns, drinking, Porn, smoking peeing outside ect this is nothing new. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:27:16 PM EDT
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There are also multiple studies out indicating that porn correlates with lower incidents of rape and sexual assault. The theory being that it is much easier to fap and go to bed than attempt to rape someone.
"The bottom line on these experiments is, "More Net access, less rape." A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes. States that adopted the Internet quickly saw the biggest declines. And, according to Clemson professor Todd Kendall, the effects remain even after you control for all of the obvious confounding variables, such as alcohol consumption, police presence, poverty and unemployment rates, population density, and so forth." http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2006/10/how_the_web_prevents_rape.html |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:30:49 PM EDT
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Are you paranoid? Because that sounds paranoid and as your neighbor I feel the responsibility to contact your physician and local police so they can get you mental health aid and remove any dangerous objects from your access. There might even be monetary reward for my concern. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Government use of a pseudo science to mandate what is legal to protect psychological development. For the children. I am sure, they wouldn't use that mandate to target other groups once they have gained legitimacy by manipulating the moral virtues of the masses. You know like gun owners... surely not. Are you paranoid? Because that sounds paranoid and as your neighbor I feel the responsibility to contact your physician and local police so they can get you mental health aid and remove any dangerous objects from your access. There might even be monetary reward for my concern. There can be no cynicism in paradise comrade. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:31:00 PM EDT
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Meh.
Watching porn, alone or with your SO? Probably no harm done. Spending your day whacking it to German latex anal fisting when you could've gone shooting, or taken the dogs to the park, or drank beer with your buddies? Kinda weird and sad. Devote your life to researching other people watching porn? You fucking pervert 
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:36:51 PM EDT
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Like all things in life moderation is key. Men have always enjoyed eating and screwing, now with easy access to both we have Wal-Mart scooters and single moms. Cut off the government supports of both (welfare, medical etc..) and it wouldn't be near as big of a problem.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:37:17 PM EDT
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I don't think we can call it a crisis as long as there's still enough to go around.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:38:37 PM EDT
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I don't think we can call it a crisis as long as there's still enough to go around. Well said. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:39:15 PM EDT
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There are also multiple studies out indicating that porn correlates with lower incidents of rape and sexual assault. The theory being that it is much easier to fap and go to bed than attempt to rape someone. "The bottom line on these experiments is, "More Net access, less rape." A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes. States that adopted the Internet quickly saw the biggest declines. And, according to Clemson professor Todd Kendall, the effects remain even after you control for all of the obvious confounding variables, such as alcohol consumption, police presence, poverty and unemployment rates, population density, and so forth." http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2006/10/how_the_web_prevents_rape.html The main problem with that study is it believes rape is just sex. It is far from it. Rape is ultimate control, violence, domination, the desire to harm or kill a woman by the use of a cock as it is the most demeaning way the rapist can control the woman. Yes, hot women probably are at a higher likelihood to get raped but that is because they are more desirable in society so having some form of dominance over them is what drives the rapist. A normal man would not normally get a hard on trying to fuck a fighting or crying or unwilling woman, let alone an 80 yr old, a severely disabled, some filthy street person or other women who become victims. The rapist is looking for domination and control, not sex. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:39:40 PM EDT
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With all the articles out there on the subject I think people already know that porn is considered evil/harmful by some, why beat a dead horse parden the pun.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:41:42 PM EDT
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I like porn, but I like softcore porn where both people seem to be actually enjoying themselves and nobody is spitting in anyone's mouth, gaping assholes, or whipping anyone. I'm vanilla like that. I stopped being interested in porn on the regular when that shit started to become mainstream. Fucking disturbing. When did physical abuse as the foundation for adult entertainment become normal? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:43:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:47:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, no.
Porn is what I watch when I can't get sex, but it's nowhere near the same as sex. Lol, pay for porn... |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:48:04 PM EDT
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Get yer rocks off without any drama? Who the fuck would ever want that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
What these men want, by definition, isn’t a sexual experience but a pornographic one. Get yer rocks off without any drama? Who the fuck would ever want that? Fiscal aspect. You have an entire generation of men who state the will never get married because of the financial repercussions of divorce and the way courts treat men with child custody. Porn is probably a cheaper, less drama psychological experience for this cohort. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:49:56 PM EDT
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I've got enough saved up in the ol' wank tank I don't need porn.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:50:41 PM EDT
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Fiscal aspect. You have an entire generation of men who state the will never get married because of the financial repercussions of divorce and the way courts treat men with child custody. Porn is probably a cheaper, less drama psychological experience for this cohort. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What these men want, by definition, isn’t a sexual experience but a pornographic one. Get yer rocks off without any drama? Who the fuck would ever want that? Fiscal aspect. You have an entire generation of men who state the will never get married because of the financial repercussions of divorce and the way courts treat men with child custody. Porn is probably a cheaper, less drama psychological experience for this cohort. Feminism has ruined marriage. Divorces become so financially devastating to men, they don't think it's worthwhile to get married anymore, or even involve themselves in meaningful relationships. After the shit I went through with my divorce, I really don't want to do it again. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:51:09 PM EDT
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Almost like it was a plan hatched by some very clever social scientist or Godless atheist who wanted to destroy a nation......
Who knew? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:51:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2016 12:51:24 PM EDT
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Where's that "favorite porn star thread"?
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