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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:05:42 PM EDT

Political violence is here. The only question today is — who can do it better?
Noam Chomsky isn’t hopeful. When asked about the “Is is OK to punch a Nazi” meme the NY Times and other fake news outlets circulated, Chomsky replied via email:

Wrong in priciple, in my opinion, and tactically self-destructive. When we move to the arena of violence, the most brutal guys win — and that’s not us.”
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:06:49 PM EDT
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I don't give a fuck, my name's Dave!
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:12:46 PM EDT
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Hard to know who Chomsky considers "we".  People who believe like him?  That wouldn't be many....
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:15:26 PM EDT
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I need to start looking for these protests in TX so I can get in on the fun.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:16:35 PM EDT
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Wrong in priciple, in my opinion, and tactically self-destructive. When we move to the arena of violence, the most brutal guys win — and that’s not us.”
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Millions of communist citizens would disagree.
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Screw that old commie, but if he is crying i am happy.
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Hard to know who Chomsky considers "we".  People who believe like him?  That wouldn't be many....
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The Chomsky quote is just one tiny part of the article, for those who haven't read it.

The entire article has a pretty good take on things. The media ignored or even condoned violence against the right.

When the right fought back, everyone put on their shocked face and suddenly started whining about "street violence".

On one hand, the continuing hypocrisy pisses me off. On the other hand, I'm laughing at how they thought skinny leg jeans wearing hipsters that weigh a buck-oh-five and girls with chronic fish-mouth syndrome were going to measure up to blue collar people that have worked hard for their entire adult life. The disparity in physical size is notable in almost every video.
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I need to start looking for these protests in TX so I can get in on the fun.
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there is a reason they happen in Berkeley
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:26:02 PM EDT
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The only way to win that game is to make sure there's not enough of them left to vote.

I don't think many of us have the stomach for that kind of "political violence" but the other side has a long history of very efficiently doing exactly that.

National Socialists in Germany, Soviet Socialists in Russia, Chinese Communists, a dozen more small countries. And if you think they aren't talking about it here too, you're delusional. It doesn't take too much work to find professors and activists (the kind of folks whose rhetoric becomes party policy a decade later - like Obama's mentor) discussing exactly that in interviews.

Do you consider political support of views contrary to your own to be justification for violence? Because they do. Just keep in mind who's supporting the violence with their votes and dollars and words... and H yard signs. Just because they didn't throw the molotovs or pull the trigger doesn't make your neighbors innocent. Keep that in mind.
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there is a reason they happen in Berkeley
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I need to start looking for these protests in TX so I can get in on the fun.
there is a reason they happen in Berkeley
Yeah you are not going to find anything like this here, a few idiots in the big cities but nothing like Berkeley.
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I maybe a tiny 5"6 130lbs guy, but I'm more brutal then a mob of 25 trying to get me
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:27:54 PM EDT
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Political violence is here. The only question today is — who can do it better?
Noam Chomsky isn’t hopeful. When asked about the “Is is OK to punch a Nazi” meme the NY Times and other fake news outlets circulated, Chomsky replied via email:

Wrong in priciple, in my opinion, and tactically self-destructive. When we move to the arena of violence, the most brutal guys win — and that’s not us.”
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https://medium.com/@Cernovich/political-violence-is-here-now-the-question-is-who-can-do-it-better-ef58fcbe1d91
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So that's how they're going to spin it now, the right is more violent.
Even more reason not to punch back!

But if you insist we do fight back, we need to make it very clear who started it, even more clear than it was in Berkeley. No violence or retaliation for the first hour or two, then after they cross the "line" unleash hell, would be a powerful message, stop it, stop it, now you've done it!
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:28:02 PM EDT
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He is right.

Generally our side does not start the fight.   We finish the fuck out of it, because the threat becomes such that we are backed into a corner and it is about survival, not politics.
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It's not a matter of who's better. We are.

They're willing to do it.

Once the thin veneer of society is peeled back there's no competition,  til then we'll continue to go to work and take it laying down.
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Millions of communist citizens would disagree.
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Most of those who died under Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Marxism, first welcomed the enemy in, and let them gain power.  They then paid the price for their hopes of sugarplum dreams coming true.
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Millions of communist citizens would disagree.
Most of those who died under Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Marxism, first welcomed the enemy in, and let them gain power.  They then paid the price for their hopes of sugarplum dreams coming true.
Brown shirts
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Brony Rage?
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Let's hope it doesn't get hotter than it is, for the country's sake.

That said, when it's time to push back its time to push back.
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Well it's definitely not gonna be the fat baby boomer cuckservatives
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The Left...real easy when you have the media on your side.
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Twinks may be tiny but they can be ferocious when provoked. A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal.
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 Stay clear of the mobs if possible. If not possible then start no shit. If they start shit, your little ass has every right to get brutal.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:28:23 PM EDT
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The Left...real easy when you have the media on your side.
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They are better organized and better prepared mentally. They have been talking about killing off conservatives and white men for years. On the left it isn't nut jobs in their mother's basements talking about it, it is professors and the politically connected. The last two democratic presidential candidates were connected to people who publicly called for mass murder and no one cared. For the left promoting genocide is no longer taboo they don't even lose their jobs when caught.

They are behind us when it comes to weapons but becoming competent with a weapon doesn't take long. We may have them beat when it comes to with weapons for now but that doesn't mean shit if you aren't willing to use them.
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Millions of communist citizens would disagree.
Most of those who died under Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Marxism, first welcomed the enemy in, and let them gain power.  They then paid the price for their hopes of sugarplum dreams coming true.
Which is why they push so hard for gun control and political correctness.  It's about control.   Once they have it the trains start filling up and the camps start their work.
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Most of those who died under Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Marxism, first welcomed the enemy in, and let them gain power.  They then paid the price for their hopes of sugarplum dreams coming true.
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Most of them were probably wooed by the promises of free stuff.  Sort of what our politicians do now.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:05:21 PM EDT
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He is right.

Generally our side does not start the fight.   We finish the fuck out of it, because the threat becomes such that we are backed into a corner and it is about survival, not politics.
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He is wrong. The left is extremely adept at brutality.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:10:22 PM EDT
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I am passed the age where I am going to go somewhere and mix it up
That being said when I see based stickman outfitted with a stylin shied and kitted up to confront the commies I cannot help but think it would be fun.
A gang of pals,crafting shields gathering their gear for Saturdays confrontation has to be appealing for others besides myself.
I see it escalating
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They wanted violence....they started violence.......they got violence returned to them and punked out like bitches.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 8:56:04 AM EDT
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If you are playing fair your tactics suck...

We have always wanted to play fair. We are going to come to grips with that and what really has to happen. We all talk about being slaves and this that or the other but are we willing to "pull the trigger"?
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