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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:14:35 AM EDT
...wait for it..........because.........they couldn't go fishing.
Gardner says he sees the people of Prichard who have been left out of the claims process as "criminal." The April 2010 BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico was an indisputable assault. The perpetrator – the fourth largest company in the world that has spent millions on a public relations campaign highlighting the things it has done to make the Gulf “whole.” The victims – thousands of residents in underserved areas such as our city of Prichard who have been left out of the equation for compensation. This is criminal, and I am committed to seeking justice for the residents of Prichard. it also robbed our city residents of opportunities for supplemental income and their ability to put food on the table. Before the spill, it was not unusual for retired persons in our community to go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars to help pay for their food, medicine and other expenses. Other people fished regularly so that they would not have to pay the high grocery store prices for food that was nearby in the Gulf. http://blog.al.com/live/2011/08/prichard_police_chief_defends.html |
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In other news, Prichard Police Chief is an Idiot.
That is all. EDIT: My apologies, no one complained, I just know better. |
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Maybe if the residents who supplemented their income would like to claim it come tax time, BP would have something to work with, so they could prove how much money was lost.
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Maybe while he is in London, the Chief can get a visual feel for what happens when social leaches get tired of the status quo
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not.
Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. |
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. |
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At least he'll be understanding and won't get bothered when his citizens start rioting and tearing shit up. After all, they were neglected and have a right to be very angry.
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. OK, the taxpayers didn't pay but I bet the Chief dint either. One way or another tax payers are paying for this idiot. |
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Woah, woah woah.
Wait. Prichard has a police force? Wow. I did not know that. What do they do? |
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...go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars...
Were they doing this with or without a business license?? |
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...go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars...
Were they doing this with or without a business license?? And a commercial fishing permit? Most places don't allow sale of fish caught on sport licenses. |
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Ok..and as a cop i have to ask one question.. WHAT THE BLUE FUCK MAKES THIS ANY TYPE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE????????????
Call me a Stickler, but i have one hard and fast rule before i do anything in any "Official" Capacity. "Does this serve any Legitimate Police Purpose" I cant for the Life of me figure out how to justify a trip out of the country to go after a corporation because someone couldnt fucking fish as ANY type of Legitimate Police Issue. |
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...go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars...
Were they doing this with or without a business license?? And a commercial fishing permit? Most places don't allow sale of fish caught on sport licenses. And Health Inspections |
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Ok..and as a cop i have to ask one question.. WHAT THE BLUE FUCK MAKES THIS ANY TYPE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE???????????? "Social justice" |
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...go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars...
Were they doing this with or without a business license?? And a commercial fishing permit? Most places don't allow sale of fish caught on sport licenses. And Health Inspections Lemonade stands. |
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Prichard is having a ton of problems, least of which is the fishing. Its not just the police, but the whole city.
I know officers that work there and their upper admin are idiots. They don't have the money to pay pensioners. Work 20 years, and just get a pat on the back. |
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Yeah laugh it up guys. Believe it or not that shit was real and I know people that lived off the food they caught. It is easy for you who just come down here for vacation to make light of it, but I think everyone should be compensated.
Old people starving in Prichard (the government there can't even pay it's retired city workers) and mean while BP execs are making millions. FUCK BP. ETA I worked for BP every day we had a contract last summer and grew up on Mobile Bay so I am speaking from some kind of experience. |
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...go out and fish, clean their catches, bag it up and sell it to get a few extra dollars...
Were they doing this with or without a business license?? And a commercial fishing permit? Most places don't allow sale of fish caught on sport licenses. And Health Inspections Lemonade stands. Well, if your gonna squash them on the basis of permitting then it's time to bust some old-timers skulls too I say. Fairness and all that. |
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Quoted: Maybe if the residents who supplemented their income would like to claim it come tax time, BP would have something to work with, so they could prove how much money was lost. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Time to send in the IRS tax cheat form. |
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. Tax dollars are paying for him to continue to breathe, live, and hold the title of police chief while he does this shit. That is bad enough. |
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. Tax dollars are paying for him to continue to breathe, live, and hold the title of police chief while he does this shit. That is bad enough. So public officals can't operate politcally outside thier public sector jobs? |
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Every single facet of life was crushed down here. Everyone was affected by the spill. The beaches were ghost towns, and the economy of the entire coastal region thrives on that influx of cash. BP threw cash at some people so they could say "Look how much we are helping!" While they ignored most people and swept the oil under the rug. They are corrupt as shit and committed crimes resulting in the largest man made environmental disaster in this nation's history and got away with it no worse for the wear. I want to throw up when I see those fucking commercials talking about how BP is committed to fixing us and making us whole. They haven't done shit.
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. Tax dollars are paying for him to continue to breathe, live, and hold the title of police chief while he does this shit. That is bad enough. So public officals can't operate politcally outside thier public sector jobs? He can "operate" however he wants as long as he's not using the title or privileges of his office in connection with those political acts. This guy was not operating outside his public sector job. Not even close. It's hard to say from the article alone, but he referred to the BP's actions as "criminal" and said that "As police chief in Prichard, Alabama, I continually work to create a safe environment for the citizens and to pursue those who violate laws or cause harm." He says he was "directed" by the Mayor to participate. His entire official statement reeks of going over there as the police chief, not a concerned citizen, to try to bust some BP heads because he thinks the company committed criminal wrongdoing. He was clearly doing this (or purporting to do this) in his capacity a police chief, not as a private citizen as part of a political lobby. |
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Damn , I gotta get ahold of an attorney.
I planned a trip to go fishing in the gulf and lost thousands because of the spill . Uh, I men tens , uh I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars. It was a really expensive trip. Fuck that piece of shit |
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Hey free vacation on the tax payers I am sure, so why not. Looks like he was able to go fishing anyways.....and what is he using for bait....race. Mmmmm good ol race bait, I hear the reds are all over it this year. According to the article no taxpayer funds were used for the trip. Tax dollars are paying for him to continue to breathe, live, and hold the title of police chief while he does this shit. That is bad enough. So public officals can't operate politcally outside thier public sector jobs? He can "operate" however he wants as long as he's not using the title or privileges of his office in connection with those political acts. This guy was not operating outside his public sector job. Not even close. It's hard to say from the article alone, but he referred to the BP's actions as "criminal" and said that "As police chief in Prichard, Alabama, I continually work to create a safe environment for the citizens and to pursue those who violate laws or cause harm." He says he was "directed" by the Mayor to participate. His entire official statement reeks of going over there as the police chief, not a concerned citizen, to try to bust some BP heads. He was clearly doing this (or purporting to do this) in his capacity a police chief, not as a private citizen as part of a political lobby. Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. |
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Damn , I gotta get ahold of an attorney. I planned a trip to go fishing in the gulf and lost thousands because of the spill . Uh, I men tens , uh I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars. It was a really expensive trip. Fuck that piece of shit How about you stay in fucking Ohio from now on. You didn't lose shit. |
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Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. |
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Maybe if the residents who supplemented their income would like to claim it come tax time, BP would have something to work with, so they could prove how much money was lost. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. I'll say it again: A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves.
I am not a legal expert, but I don't see how he is doing anything wrong by representing his people in a way that they cannot afford to. He is not using tax money for this. God knows Prichard doesn't have the money anyway. I have a strong suspicion that had "black" been left out of the subject line the reactions here would be very different. |
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He can "operate" however he wants as long as he's not using the title or privileges of his office in connection with those political acts. This guy was not operating outside his public sector job. Not even close. It's hard to say from the article alone, but he referred to the BP's actions as "criminal" and said that "As police chief in Prichard, Alabama, I continually work to create a safe environment for the citizens and to pursue those who violate laws or cause harm." He says he was "directed" by the Mayor to participate. His entire official statement reeks of going over there as the police chief, not a concerned citizen, to try to bust some BP heads because he thinks the company committed criminal wrongdoing. He was clearly doing this (or purporting to do this) in his capacity a police chief, not as a private citizen as part of a political lobby. I'm not seeing the issue, tax payer money was not used for the trip, he is expressing his opinion about his community. Personally I think they are just looking for a handout but I don't see the issue with him doing this. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. I'll say it again: A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. I am not a legal expert, but I don't see how he is doing anything wrong by representing his people in a way that they cannot afford to. He is not using tax money for this. God knows Prichard doesn't have the money anyway. I have a strong suspicion that had "black" been left out of the subject line the reactions here would be very different. Whoop, there it is. The 'Race' card. |
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Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. I'll say it again: A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves.
I am not a legal expert, but I don't see how he is doing anything wrong by representing his people in a way that they cannot afford to. He is not using tax money for this. God knows Prichard doesn't have the money anyway. I have a strong suspicion that had "black" been left out of the subject line the reactions here would be very different. Prichard is a shit hole, always has been a shit hole, always will be a shit hole. It's a black community. Shocking but it is. |
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Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. I'll say it again: A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves.
I am not a legal expert, but I don't see how he is doing anything wrong by representing his people in a way that they cannot afford to. He is not using tax money for this. God knows Prichard doesn't have the money anyway. I have a strong suspicion that had "black" been left out of the subject line the reactions here would be very different. Whoop, there it is. The 'Race' card. Goddamn fucking swing low sweet chariot was posted within a minute of posting. If you don't think a fair percentage of ar15.com is racist as hell you are deluding yourself. |
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Why is this wrong? A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves. What violation of state law was committed within this chief's jurisdiction? Please tell us. I'll say it again: A crime was committed which affected his people so he is representing them in a way they could not afford to do themselves.
I am not a legal expert, but I don't see how he is doing anything wrong by representing his people in a way that they cannot afford to. He is not using tax money for this. God knows Prichard doesn't have the money anyway. I have a strong suspicion that had "black" been left out of the subject line the reactions here would be very different. Prichard is a shit hole, always has been a shit hole, always will be a shit hole. It's a black community. Shocking but it is. I was born in Mobile Bama. You and I both know the reaction to this thread is due in large part to the fact that it is a black community. |
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He can "operate" however he wants as long as he's not using the title or privileges of his office in connection with those political acts. This guy was not operating outside his public sector job. Not even close. It's hard to say from the article alone, but he referred to the BP's actions as "criminal" and said that "As police chief in Prichard, Alabama, I continually work to create a safe environment for the citizens and to pursue those who violate laws or cause harm." He says he was "directed" by the Mayor to participate. His entire official statement reeks of going over there as the police chief, not a concerned citizen, to try to bust some BP heads because he thinks the company committed criminal wrongdoing. He was clearly doing this (or purporting to do this) in his capacity a police chief, not as a private citizen as part of a political lobby. I'm not seeing the issue, tax payer money was not used for the trip, he is expressing his opinion about his community. Personally I think they are just looking for a handout but I don't see the issue with him doing this. It's the same issue as a police admin going to a legislative hearing and giving public comment ... while in uniform or otherwise identifying himself as such. It's using the title of public office to effect your own political agenda, even if you're not spending taxpayer money doing it. It's unethical and inappropriate. If you're an elected official (like a Sheriff) and you're campaigning, or if you're there to represent your agency on a budget issue, I don't have as much of an issue with it. |
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If someone can give me a reasonable argument why the guys who lived off of crabs and mullet and croakers they caught off the causeway should not be compensated for their loss due to the oil spill I would be glad to listen.
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He can "operate" however he wants as long as he's not using the title or privileges of his office in connection with those political acts. This guy was not operating outside his public sector job. Not even close. It's hard to say from the article alone, but he referred to the BP's actions as "criminal" and said that "As police chief in Prichard, Alabama, I continually work to create a safe environment for the citizens and to pursue those who violate laws or cause harm." He says he was "directed" by the Mayor to participate. His entire official statement reeks of going over there as the police chief, not a concerned citizen, to try to bust some BP heads because he thinks the company committed criminal wrongdoing. He was clearly doing this (or purporting to do this) in his capacity a police chief, not as a private citizen as part of a political lobby. I'm not seeing the issue, tax payer money was not used for the trip, he is expressing his opinion about his community. Personally I think they are just looking for a handout but I don't see the issue with him doing this. It's the same issue as a police admin going to a legislative hearing and giving public comment ... while in uniform or otherwise identifying himself as such. It's using the title of public office to effect your own political agenda, even if you're not spending taxpayer money doing it. It's unethical and inappropriate. I don't know where you're from but around here our public officials are expected to look out for their people, and to be their voice when they have none of their own. |
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If someone can give me a reasonable argument why the guys who lived off of crabs and mullet and croakers they caught off the causeway should not be compensated for their loss due to the oil spill I would be glad to listen. For the same reason that I won't bring a wage loss claim in any case where the client wants to claim undocumented income - it won't fly (because there's nothing to document it) and it could get the client in trouble for tax evasion. This isn't a BP problem. Try making any kind of insurance claim relating to income without payroll and/or tax records to show it. You'll get nowhere, even if you hire a lawyer. Any other questions? |
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I was born in Mobile Bama. You and I both know the reaction to this thread is due in large part to the fact that it is a black community. Uhh, the Chief played the race card. "In this case, a contingent that included Prichard Police Chief Jimmie Gardner went to London, England, last week (before the riots) to protest BP PLC, which they accuse of ignoring minorities " The reaction is a black community looking for money where they don't deserve it. Just the same as those white communities from LA who were operating off the books thinking they should get money also with no proof of oil claims. ETA: Rocker, a Pensacola minister and a board member of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, was joined by Dick Gregory, a comedian and activist; E. Faye Williams, chair of the National Congress of Black Women Inc.; and Gardner. |
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It's the same issue as a police admin going to a legislative hearing and giving public comment ... while in uniform or otherwise identifying himself as such. It's using the title of public office to effect your own political agenda, even if you're not spending taxpayer money doing it. It's unethical and inappropriate. I don't know where you're from but around here our public officials are expected to look out for their people, and to be their voice when they have none of their own. <–– I'm from Virginia, it's right in my profile, sport. I love how you say "public officials are expected..." as though you're the spokesman for your entire area. I am not so pompous as to speak for such a broad audience, so I'll just say that I expect public officials to faithfully and honestly carry out the duties of their offices, and not use their offices to advance their own political agendas of handing out free shit to their "constituents." |
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Every single facet of life was crushed down here. Everyone was affected by the spill. The beaches were ghost towns, and the economy of the entire coastal region thrives on that influx of cash. BP threw cash at some people so they could say "Look how much we are helping!" While they ignored most people and swept the oil under the rug. They are corrupt as shit and committed crimes resulting in the largest man made environmental disaster in this nation's history and got away with it no worse for the wear. I want to throw up when I see those fucking commercials talking about how BP is committed to fixing us and making us whole. They haven't done shit. I'd just walk away from this thread. I understand what you're saying 100%. I'm starting to see a trend with this place. If you're black and have any kind of problem your 'entitled'. Granted BP was responsible for their mess, and where are they now? For the record I know people that were working cleanup that quit when they stopped getting paid. Is there still oil? You better believe it. So someone that fishes for a few fish to supplement their food supply is entitled? The few hundred bucks these people make selling some seafood on the side of the road makes them tax cheats? Fuck it, at least now I understand the need for them to get on welfare / food stamps. BP is right to F the Gulf Coast. |
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having worked EMS in pritchard i can tell you there is not only NOT a big fishing industry there, there are not many people there NOT on the welfare roles.
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Damn , I gotta get ahold of an attorney. I planned a trip to go fishing in the gulf and lost thousands because of the spill . Uh, I men tens , uh I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars. It was a really expensive trip. Fuck that piece of shit How about you stay in fucking Ohio from now on. You didn't lose shit. Of course I did, my lawyer will say so . Sheesh dude, recalibrate the sarcasm meter. Or is it mine thats off?? |
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Every single facet of life was crushed down here. Everyone was affected by the spill. The beaches were ghost towns, and the economy of the entire coastal region thrives on that influx of cash. BP threw cash at some people so they could say "Look how much we are helping!" While they ignored most people and swept the oil under the rug. They are corrupt as shit and committed crimes resulting in the largest man made environmental disaster in this nation's history and got away with it no worse for the wear. I want to throw up when I see those fucking commercials talking about how BP is committed to fixing us and making us whole. They haven't done shit. I'd just walk away from this thread. I understand what you're saying 100%. I'm starting to see a trend with this place. If you're black and have any kind of problem your 'entitled'. Granted BP was responsible for their mess, and where are they now? For the record I know people that were working cleanup that quit when they stopped getting paid. Is there still oil? You better believe it. So someone that fishes for a few fish to supplement their food supply is entitled? The few hundred bucks these people make selling some seafood on the side of the road makes them tax cheats? Fuck it, at least now I understand the need for them to get on welfare / food stamps. BP is right to F the Gulf Coast. If they're not reporting that income on their tax return and paying tax on it, then yes. And they won't get compensated from the BP fund if they can't show the income. That applies to white people, too. |
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Every single facet of life was crushed down here. Everyone was affected by the spill. The beaches were ghost towns, and the economy of the entire coastal region thrives on that influx of cash. BP threw cash at some people so they could say "Look how much we are helping!" While they ignored most people and swept the oil under the rug. They are corrupt as shit and committed crimes resulting in the largest man made environmental disaster in this nation's history and got away with it no worse for the wear. I want to throw up when I see those fucking commercials talking about how BP is committed to fixing us and making us whole. They haven't done shit. I'd just walk away from this thread. I understand what you're saying 100%. I'm starting to see a trend with this place. If you're black and have any kind of problem your 'entitled'. Granted BP was responsible for their mess, and where are they now? For the record I know people that were working cleanup that quit when they stopped getting paid. Is there still oil? You better believe it. So someone that fishes for a few fish to supplement their food supply is entitled? The few hundred bucks these people make selling some seafood on the side of the road makes them tax cheats? Fuck it, at least now I understand the need for them to get on welfare / food stamps. BP is right to F the Gulf Coast. If they're not reporting that income on their tax return and paying tax on it, then yes. And they won't get compensated from the BP fund if they can't show the income. That applies to white people, too. exactly. your claim is worthless if you can not PROVE a loss. that applies to anything in life. |
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