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Posted: 11/15/2001 12:01:33 PM EST
Ron Paul weighs in on the new "Anti-terrorism" Act. I like the way he thinks:
What does Paul believe the nation's Founding Fathers would think of this law? "Our forefathers would think it's time for a revolution. This is why they revolted in the first place." Says Paul with a laugh, "They revolted against much more mild oppression."
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Link Posted: 11/15/2001 12:39:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/15/2001 12:32:30 PM EST by SWIRE]
This is what I've been saying ever since the law passed. What is so bad about the new law? "Generally," says Paul, "the worst part of this so-called antiterrorism bill is the increased ability of the federal government to commit surveillance on all of us without proper search warrants." He is referring to Section 213 (Authority for Delaying Notice of the Execution of a Warrant), also known as the "sneak-and-peek" provision, which effectively allows police to avoid giving prior warning when searches of personal property are conducted. Before the USA PATRIOT Act, the government had to obtain a warrant and give notice to the person whose property was to be searched. With one vote by Congress and the sweep of the president's pen, say critics, the right of every American fully to be protected under the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures was abrogated. I'm going to continue using OneShot as my example. The new law would allow the police to search OneShots house without a warrant or his permission, including his computer, to see if they can find any evidence against him. Once they find his computer and see that he hits this site. Then everyone on this site could be considered "suspected of criminal actions" because of our relationship with OneShot and the police could come and search all our houses to see if they can find anything against us.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 12:42:51 PM EST
The ACLU has posted on its Website, www.aclu.org, a comprehensive list of the provisions and summarizes the increased powers for federal spying. The following are a sample of some of the changes as a result of the so-called USA PATRIOT Act. The legislation: minimizes judicial supervision of federal telephone and Internet surveillance by law-enforcement authorities. expands the ability of the government to conduct secret searches. gives the attorney general and the secretary of state the power to designate domestic groups as terrorist organizations and deport any noncitizen who belongs to them. grants the FBI broad access to sensitive business records about individuals without having to show evidence of a crime. leads to large-scale investigations of American citizens for "intelligence" purposes. Can you imagine what will happen if Al Gore or Hillary wins in 2004 and appoints an anti-gun attorney general. They could single handedly designate any gun organization as a terrorist organization.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 2:01:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By SWIRE: Can you imagine what will happen if Al Gore or Hillary wins in 2004 and appoints an anti-gun attorney general. They could single handedly designate any gun organization as a terrorist organization.
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I am glad that some people aren't as politically myopic as the ones here caught up in "(undeclared)war fever" who are willing to accept safety in exchange for freedom...just as long as it is coming from their political party. Catch that thread on repealing Posse Commitatus? [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=69899[/url] "fruit cake faction", "tin foil hat" and "black helicopters" were the terms used against those that would oppose such an action. I really wonder if some of the members on here are just plain ignorant of history or 15 year olds using daddy's computer. Hell could be both. "Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or 'promulgated,' that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this 'scenario', individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." -Dr.Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991 "Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection," says Defense Secretary William S. Cohen. The nation's defense chief told the Army Times he once considered the chilling specter of armored vehicles surrounding civilian hotels or government buildings to block out terrorists as strictly an overseas phenomenon. But no longer. "It could happen here," Cohen said he concluded after 8 months of studying threats under the Pentagon microscope..."The American people should not be concerned about it. They should welcome it."- ARMY TIMES 10/27/98 New military unit for domestic deployment Cohen says Americans should 'welcome' troops on home soil [url]www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15217[/url]
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