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11/9/2018 9:21:38 PM
Posted: 10/27/2018 3:56:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2018 4:01:59 PM EST by Aimpointin]
Just curious how many total employees you department has, how many per shift and the approximate size of your jurisdiction? My department is small, only about 20 total employees, meaning about 3-4 per shift for patrol. Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 5:27:05 PM EST
I'm not the popo, but here's from my local department's info. The total residents number is off. It is ~920K now. Not sure if the popo have grown proportionally. They are always hiring.

https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/web/gwinnett/departments/police
The Gwinnett County Police Department is a nationally accredited and rapidly growing police agency located in the Northeastern quadrant of the Atlanta metropolitan area. The Department currently has an authorized strength of 813 sworn officers supported by 280 civilian employees with the responsibility of providing law enforcement services to approximately 800,000 residents within an area of 436 square miles. The Department is organized into the Office of the Chief and two Bureaus with four Divisions: Administrative Services, Support Operations, Criminal Investigations and Uniform Divisions.
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Link Posted: 10/27/2018 8:01:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2018 8:04:01 PM EST by Urimaginaryfrnd]
I've worked for 5 small departments over the years ranging in size from 10 to 25. Two were military bases. one was a suburb of San Antonio one a small town on the gulf coast One a Federal installation with sole federal jurisdiction. We always run short of people no matter where the manning always fails to take into account that there will be vacation leave, sick leave, injuries etc. Best you can hope for is that the guys you work with take care of each other and look out for each other. The down side of the job is you never get in trouble for the fucking off you do but you do get in trouble for the hard work you do. Be careful and watch each others backs and never forget that TIME is on your side don't rush into something when you can wait a few minutes for backup. Remember when really really bad things happen cops come from other jurisdictions to assist...... TIME is on your side!!!

They used to say : " Real policemen learned from the SLA ...they carry an extra box of ammo in their briefcase!" SLA
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 8:16:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2018 8:17:02 PM EST by Jake94134]
43 man Department (48 at full staffing) serving around 22k residents in 5 square miles (23-25k calls/year).

1 Chief
1 Captain
28 Patrol (Sgt + 6 zones with a 4 zone minimum, 4 squads on 12 hour shifts)
6 Detectives
3 Narcotics
3 Special Operations
1 SRO
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 6:11:11 AM EST
13 sworn
Chief
2 Sgt
1 det/cpl
9 patrol (budgeted for 9 but city council won't approve us filling the 9th spot right now)
12 hr shifts with 2 minimum staffing (vacation/personal/sick/comp time are considered on duty)
10,000 residents in 5 square miles
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 2:25:48 PM EST
Our administration set "minimum staffing" for daywatch in the busiest precinct(daytime population approx. 300,000) is 17 officers.

It's been steadily dwindling, old roll call sheets from the 90's had 40-50 officers on one watch.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 3:07:23 PM EST
Interesting. Thank you for the link.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 3:08:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jake94134:
43 man Department (48 at full staffing) serving around 22k residents in 5 square miles (23-25k calls/year).

1 Chief
1 Captain
28 Patrol (Sgt + 6 zones with a 4 zone minimum, 4 squads on 12 hour shifts)
6 Detectives
3 Narcotics
3 Special Operations
1 SRO
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Thanks for your response.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 3:09:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 5-0Joe:
13 sworn
Chief
2 Sgt
1 det/cpl
9 patrol (budgeted for 9 but city council won't approve us filling the 9th spot right now)
12 hr shifts with 2 minimum staffing (vacation/personal/sick/comp time are considered on duty)
10,000 residents in 5 square miles
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Sounds similar to my department. Thanks for your response.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 5:35:53 PM EST
35,000 plus population
188 square miles, over 500 miles of paved roadway. Over 3000 calls of service per month.
Patrol division has 7 deputies per shift.
Includes a corporal (FTO and assistant shift commander) and a sergeant.
12 hour shifts.
2 on 2 off, 3 on 3 off...so every other weekend is a long weekend to work or a long weekend off.
CID, Jail, Courthouse security and Communications have their own chain of command.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 8:38:38 PM EST
Amongst all divisions, roughly 100 employees. Road patrol minimum is three plus a supervisor, which is inadequate. Patrol area is 492 square miles
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 6:36:36 AM EST
We're probably around 250 sworn (including the jail), with around 20 people per shift in a perfect world (never gonna happen).

My jurisdiction is almost 600 square miles with a population around 125,000.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 6:42:56 AM EST
My department was 113 sworn, about 60 on patrol for 90k-ish in a 42sq mile city.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 8:25:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SC11B:
Our administration set "minimum staffing" for daywatch in the busiest precinct(daytime population approx. 300,000) is 17 officers.

It's been steadily dwindling, old roll call sheets from the 90's had 40-50 officers on one watch.
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Yeah, it seems police departments only have about half the staff they once did, sad.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 9:06:21 AM EST
As a rule of thumb, you'll need five officers to cover an 8 hour shift, everyday, seven days a week, 365 days a year.

Some positions don't require that level of staffing. For example, won't need the same number of officers assigned to traffic control on weekends and late night.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 11:40:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2018 11:43:42 PM EST by Cdm1985]
Sheriff, Undersheriff, Captain, 4 Patrol Sergeants, 3 Detectives and 13 Patrol Deputies. We work a 4/10 schedule and patrol approximately 3,200 square miles serving a population of approximately 77k.

ETA these numbers aren’t counting the Civil Division, Corrections, SAR, etc. Just Patrol.
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 12:50:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2018 1:00:26 AM EST by TylerF]
Sheriff, Undersheriff, 1 Admin Lt (Road Patrol), 1 Jail Lt(Corrections). 1 Det. Lt, 1 Det Sgt, and (current staffing, not allocated levels) 11 Road Deputies+ 4 Sgts, 15 Corrections Officers+ 4 Sgts, and 2 Animal Control Officers.

County of approx 30-35K + seasonal tourist numbers, around 550sqmi.

Road always runs minimum of 2 at night. Although 3 is preferred. Sgt covers the 4 townships surrounding the SO, while the other is a 2 man car covering the rest of the county. If someone is off, the Sgt's car becomes the general patrol car for the county, always riding 2 up.

Days, 3+1 Sgt. Single man cars. That being said, road patrol also covers court bailiff duties, so usually it's just the the Sgt out answering complaints. 12hr shifts.
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