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Posted: 8/29/2005 4:48:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 4:55:42 PM EDT by Johnny_Reno]
My home is approximately three years old. Over the last couple of months, I have noticed that the water level in both of my toilets have not been filling up to the height that they did originally. It has been a VERY slow gradual process, but it has finally reached the point where I should do something about it.

Now - WTF should I do?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 4:54:05 PM EDT
Are they both going down to the same level at the same time?


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Link Posted: 8/29/2005 4:54:19 PM EDT
Adjust the float in the tank.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 4:55:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 4:56:18 PM EDT by krpind]

Originally Posted By entropy:
Adjust the float in the tank.




Mine have a hose that fits in the drain that helps fills the bowl.
I think the problem he is having is the bowl level not the tank level.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 4:58:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 5:49:54 PM EDT by Johnny_Reno]

Originally Posted By krpind:
Are they both going down to the same level at the same time?


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They share the same basic rate of decline.

They do not go down at the same time though. The bowl has just gradually not refilled to the same height over the last couple of months.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 4:59:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By entropy:
Adjust the float in the tank.




Mine have a hose that fits in the drain that helps fills the bowl.
I think the problem he is having is the bowl level not the tank level.




Right.

The bowl, not the tank.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:00:08 PM EDT
Flush it and look in the tank. Make sure that the hose that comes out of the float in the tank is putting water in the OVERFLOW DRAIN, and not into the tank.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:08:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Flush it and look in the tank. Make sure that the hose that comes out of the float in the tank is putting water in the OVERFLOW DRAIN, and not into the tank.




Okay, just checked that. It looked fine to me.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:13:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Flush it and look in the tank. Make sure that the hose that comes out of the float in the tank is putting water in the OVERFLOW DRAIN, and not into the tank.




Okay, just checked that. It looked fine to me.



Is it leaking anywhere around the float valve?

What I am getting at is that to fully fill the bowl that hose needs to put alot of extra water into that drain.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:26:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 5:27:58 PM EDT by Johnny_Reno]

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Flush it and look in the tank. Make sure that the hose that comes out of the float in the tank is putting water in the OVERFLOW DRAIN, and not into the tank.




Okay, just checked that. It looked fine to me.



Is it leaking anywhere around the float valve?

What I am getting at is that to fully fill the bowl that hose needs to put alot of extra water into that drain.



When I flush, there are some bubbles, but only when I initially flush - I'm assuming that is part of the process.

BTW, here's a visual of the offender for ya...





The bubbles come from the bottom black gasket on the left. When I flush, there is a circle of bubbles and then no more when the tank starts to refill.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:32:17 PM EDT
Just replace that worn out crusty, nasty mutha.........


I really think as cheap as those thing are I would just replace it.
It probably has build up in the valve were the hose is coming out limiting the amout of water it puts into the bowl, before the float fills up the tank and shuts off.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:36:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Just replace that worn out crusty, nasty mutha.........


I really think as cheap as those thing are I would just replace it.
It probably has build up in the valve were the hose is coming out limiting the amout of water it puts into the bowl, before the float fills up the tank and shuts off.




Replace what?

Keep in mind that I'm not a toiletologist and refer to most of what I see that as "that thingy there."
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:57:58 PM EDT
Doodie bump.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:29:53 PM EDT
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:30:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.




Okey-doke. Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:35:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.




Okey-doke. Thanks.



Look for a "Fluidmaster" brand, model 400A. Used to use these all the time when I did my plumbing stint. Easy to install, and a lot better design (IMHO) than the ball-type you have. Most new toilets come with the Fluidmaster style.

HTH

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:39:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frankenpez:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.




Okey-doke. Thanks.



Look for a "Fluidmaster" brand, model 400A. Used to use these all the time when I did my plumbing stint. Easy to install, and a lot better design (IMHO) than the ball-type you have. Most new toilets come with the Fluidmaster style.

HTH





That model will fit my tank? Or are they a one size fits all kind of thing?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:42:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By Frankenpez:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.




Okey-doke. Thanks.



Look for a "Fluidmaster" brand, model 400A. Used to use these all the time when I did my plumbing stint. Easy to install, and a lot better design (IMHO) than the ball-type you have. Most new toilets come with the Fluidmaster style.

HTH





That model will fit my tank? Or are they a one size fits all kind of thing?



One size fits all. I wish I had a pic, I'm too lazy to google right now. Basically, you will take your whole fill assembly out where the fill tube fits in the bottom of the tank. That will allow you to lift the ball/cock assembly out. The Fluidmaster will then fit back in, only it has no arm/ball. It is a "self contained" unit. Hook back up, read the instructions, and away you go. A much better style than what you have. Should be about 8 bucks at the local hardware/home center.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:46:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frankenpez:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By Frankenpez:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By krpind:
Replace the entire float and valve.

It is very easy, go to Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot and buy a replacement and read the instructions and you will be able to handle it.




Okey-doke. Thanks.



Look for a "Fluidmaster" brand, model 400A. Used to use these all the time when I did my plumbing stint. Easy to install, and a lot better design (IMHO) than the ball-type you have. Most new toilets come with the Fluidmaster style.

HTH





That model will fit my tank? Or are they a one size fits all kind of thing?



One size fits all. I wish I had a pic, I'm too lazy to google right now. Basically, you will take your whole fill assembly out where the fill tube fits in the bottom of the tank. That will allow you to lift the ball/cock assembly out. The Fluidmaster will then fit back in, only it has no arm/ball. It is a "self contained" unit. Hook back up, read the instructions, and away you go. A much better style than what you have. Should be about 8 bucks at the local hardware/home center.




heh-heh...

you said "ball/cock."

<­BR>

thanks.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:48:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:


heh-heh...

you said "ball/cock."



Dude, one thing I learned while plumbing was that it's real tough to talk about the job without using such language. Good luck.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:54:59 PM EDT
You talking about one of these things?

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